Dr Greenthumbs G13
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Hotwired
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SCARHOLE
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Id bet Dr greenthumb discontinued some of his Heritage line (Malawi , Accopolo gold, Columbian) because there isnt much demand for long season outdoor 100% sativas vs short season indoor/ Kushes.
There are still crosses of them available.
The tastes change an hes a buisness man.
Brick Top
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That might have been a part of his reason, but then there are a lot of long flowering time strains on the market today. Plus another part was bound to be that people like myself that knew what the real strains were like tried his fakes, knew they were fakes and complained. His options were to let people who knew they were fake tell the entire world that he was ripping people off with fake strains or hope that would not happen and enough people who never grew or smoked the strains before would purchase them and never know they were ripped off.
I'd say he decided to attempt to save credibility by discontinuing his ripoff scam fake strain sales more than worry about offering strains that might not have sold in as large of numbers as some others would.
Brick Top
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Reprint from Shantibaba about the original G13-
Originally Posted by shantibaba
Hi All
well read most of the thread and got to mention a few things that bother me.
First Neville offered the G13 originally and it was never copied ...only a decade later when Soma and Reeferman bought some old hybrid seeds from Nevil through third parties did it appear again in other companies. The original G13 mother died and only seed existed from the early 90s onwards. No one including Arjan ever had access to Nevil and my library of mothers and fathers...just what was on the greenhouse list pre 98...but considering no one kept things alive they were forced to use F1 seed to gain back things...but even then there was no access to G13 in any pure form.
So now that Medical seeds are offering G13 as a feminised seed or other companies are offering G13 hybrids...well they are only names with distant relation to the originals. People renamed things and use a common name to piggy back their new seed on to the market. Why would I tell the growers that G13 mother died if I was only interested in making money from other people's dreams of owning something pure? It is not my or Nevilles way so it is not the truth that so many of these G13 strains survived so well through time.
Since I re-released G13 skunk and G13 widow some years back the piggy backers took off again...and the legend was rekindled. Whatever you all believe I find it most difficult to believe there is a pure G13 alive. The best that could be expected would be an old F1 seed or even F2 seed...but most of the time it is a new breeder using an old name to sell his wares.It does not help anyone except that breeder and it would be best for them to rename it with affiliated origins attached to G13 in some way. I am really afraid that all these ways of new companies do not help clarify an urban myth but propagate it to the maximum.Those who believe what is written rather than research perpetuate the myth and so it goes on and on and on...just like this G13 myth. I am sorry to all of those who really educate themselves but the facts are so evident , if it were not for money makers in this industry maybe people who start their own seed companies would name their own seeds with original names and stop confusing the masses.
All the best Sb
LOL Well aren't we lucky there are demented & deranged shut-ins watching out for our well being.
Brick Top
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And aren't we all lucky there are troll-boys like you just waiting to make fools of themselves talking about things they know absolutely nothing about each and every opportunity they get?LOL Well aren't we lucky there are demented & deranged shut-ins watching out for our well being.
It does make life .... entertaining.
bajafox
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So according to him the cut doesn't even exist? Only in hybrid form and/or F2+ seed form?
Brick Top
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That is what Shantibaba and Neville say. If you, or anyone else, cares to not believe what the two people in the world most likely to know the truth about G13 say is true, that is up to each individual.
bajafox
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I'd much rather believe that it doesn't exist anymore than believe it exists in seed form, lol
I am yet to read a single positive thing about Dr. G (except for Dr. Grubers smoke reports) on RIU. This is the only site I'm registered to so I kind of rely on people with multiple forum access to shine some light on the issue.
I am yet to read a single positive thing about Dr. G (except for Dr. Grubers smoke reports) on RIU. This is the only site I'm registered to so I kind of rely on people with multiple forum access to shine some light on the issue.
I believe you meant I HAVE yet...
right ?
How far up your ass do you have your head ?
I've seen dozens of different reports HERE that have been positive, come this fall that number will quadruple when people start bringing in their G13 & Auto Iranian crosses to harvest.
Hiding behind "ignore" posters replies only exposes you as the hypocrite you plainly are.
and those that do "know" would be wanabe botanists like you right ?
Dr Gruber
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I dont want to get back in this argument and im a bit suprised Brick Top, after calling for an end to it, would stir it up again but here we are.
When I first purchased from Greenthumb I went looking for info on these sites and all i found for the most part were positive reports. Greenmans seed update had him very highly rated and i used that data to make my decision. The only bad reports were from people who had germmed 6 of his seeds with out any problem and then couldnt get the remaining 5 beans to pop. Sounds like a grower error problem to me.
Since the big Greenthumb blow up at thc farmer the sites have been flooded with anti-greenthumb propaganda, and it is my belief that is why you are seeing bad reports. If you would have been searching out greenthumb threads 6 months ago you would know what im talking about. Also, if you looked at this site a little more closely you would see people other then myself have very positive things to say about his strains. Hobbess for instance says Greenthumbs Big Laughing is his favorite all time strain, and he has other strains of Doc's that he raves about as well.
I truely think someone started a big "lets get Greenthumb" campaign because he was getting so many positive reports on sites that i am a member of, and all at once, on every site, the BS started flowing...i dont think its a coinsidence at all. And, while I dont think BAja is a member of this trolling, spamming group, i do think some people in this thread are a part of it. As a matter of fact i think some people here have signed up to other sites with the only purpose of bashing Doc and starting up the shit storm. You can always tell when the first post they make is on this subject...and they have been called out and banned, as they should be.
Brick Top
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Originally Posted by Brick Top
And aren't we all lucky there are troll-boys like you just waiting to make fools of themselves talking about things they know absolutely nothing about each and every opportunity they get?.
I posted something written by Shantibaba and that also includes what Neville believes to be true. Something tells me the two of them would be more experts on the subject than you could be if you lived a thousand lifetimes.
As for me. I am not really a; "wannabe botanist." I am just a part owner of a nursery with four family members with degrees in horticulture so 'plant/bush/tree talk' is common when we are together so I have learned much that people like you have never heard about in your entire life, plus I am only one year short of four decades of growing.
If in your mind that equates to me being a; "wannabe botanist," then call me that if you desire. But whatever I am all I can say is thank God I am not you or in any way as limited as you.
Mr.Therapy Man 2
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Ive grown two of Docs strains and they were solid as they come,I had 100% germ rate and healthy vigorus plants.You get what you pay for for everyone who says his gear is pricy,Im just looking for that one keeper and in docs gear there are several keepers due to being femmed.I used to stay away from fems but after growing over 100 stains the reguler seeds will hermie faster than these fems which are made useing STS....peace
Everyone Ive seen bashing Doc has not even grown his gear so if you have not grown his gear how in the fuck can you even form an opinion...
Everyone Ive seen bashing Doc has not even grown his gear so if you have not grown his gear how in the fuck can you even form an opinion...
stonedmetalhead1
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No one is bashing his gear, this is about the G13 and how he is lying about what it is. I've grown some of his strains and while I didn't find anything I would keep around I'm sure some people have found plants they love. Even after the DD situation came to an end by Greenthumb trying to say it came from someone else completely after all of the back and forth between Greenthumb and DD, you all still believe him. It's not his seeds or prices it's his lying and misrepresentation of what he has that he is being called out on. I can tell you right now that his sour d is not an S1 of the original but probably the IBL and somehow he magically has pure thunderfuck in regular seed form when thunderfuck is a clone only.
bajafox
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Thanks Dr Gruber, I respect that, so far you are the only person that has proven his gear is worth looking into, especially your Sour Diesel. I am highly interested in that strain for a winter grow and your smoke report definitely got my attention.
Regardless, like stonedmetalhead1 said, this isn't about his gear, this is about whether or not his G13 really is the original G13, and so far there hasn't been anything to prove that it is...
uninc4life2010
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I just saw that Dr. Greenthumb has original C99 uncrossed, does anyone know if this is the original C99? For $200 a pack, it sure as hell better be! But they are the only ones who seem to have the strain.