Why Does California Suck To Live At?

Girdweed

Well-Known Member
What the fuck is a dub?

Property taxes, state taxes, and property costs all keep me away from Cali. I love the geography but the politics are fucked.
 

LaKapitone

Active Member
What the fuck is a dub?

Property taxes, state taxes, and property costs all keep me away from Cali. I love the geography but the politics are fucked.
With the housing market crashed, this is the best time to move to the Golden State lol with no gold! You can get some decent deals, but I don't know if it's considered a deal to people who don't live here, but a 4 bedroom house, possibly 2 story, for $190,000 is considered a steal, in my county at least & surrounding areas. Bay Area can run you $2,300-monthly for an apartment, it's ridiculous there.
 

Girdweed

Well-Known Member
Thanks.

What would you do with 1 gram of pot? It doesn't seem like enough to form an opinion of quality.
 

LaKapitone

Active Member
Thanks.

What would you do with 1 gram of pot? It doesn't seem like enough to form an opinion of quality.
One of the most common amounts of marijuana sold here is dubs. Dubs are the easiest way to quadrupedal your money as a street dealer & easy way to make side profit as a grower. Many people have they're own individual dealer who for the most part they trust, if they buy dubs off that dealer all the time, then they would know that bud is of high quality. Not to hard to pick out the reds from the greens & the greens from the purps off one hit.

I don't understand how it can take more than a bowl to figure if a product is good?
 

benny blanco

Active Member
A gram is perfect size for one man to smoke up. I just roll it up. Its the best wat to form an opinion of quality. Almost anything will get you high if you smoke enough of it. A gram of some og would do the trick
 

LaKapitone

Active Member
LMAO -- I guess I already repped you for another post, good eye. Your the only one who thought twice about that statement lol, not enough stoners up to date on they're news! Lol.
 

akgrown

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I regulary get two 8ths for 60 and sometimes 2 for 80 and its always medi grade. There is no reason to charge ridiculous prices for a plant that practically grows itself. I cant think of many other places I would rather live, the vibes here are just right.
 

Snow Crash

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I hear you on the vibes thing, nothing better then the West Coast, more specifically... Cali. imo.
Sure there is, it's called Portland, OR.

I lived in California for about 25 years, the vast majority of my life, and I chose to leave for several reasons.
Traffic: As mentioned before, Californian's are terrible drivers. Merging onto a freeway is just too much to ask for out there.
People: Everyone is late for something and the financial debacle that has touched everyone in Cali carries with it an air of tension. The douchebag to educated-individual ratio out there is very poor. I'd say 1 in every 10 people I met there was what I consider "worth while."
Water: I don't care what city you are in, if it is reclaimed and "cleaned" urine, your CA water is nasty. What the LA basin has done to the Colorado river is inexcusable. Most cities carry 5000x the toxic levels of hexavalent chromium as well. Filthy water.
Resource Management: California was the 5th largest economy in the world at one time. This is no longer the case. The poor governing, and poor choices of Governing bodies, is a major contributing factor. The "middle-management" in the CA gov't drained the state of its final resources all while assisting them to crash and burn.
Trash: Take a drive down any one of those listed freeways (especially 101) and count the trash on the side of the road. Californians are numbed to the accumulation of debris on the side of the road. The state, for all intents and purposes, is disgusting everywhere outside of the Sierras.
Smell: Yes. California is funky smelling. If you live there and don't think so, it's because you are used to it. Some places don't smell "California." Tahoe, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara... And if you can smell anything but Cow shit in Tracy I'd be surprised. Seriously though, the state has this funky ass "rotting" smell I can smell it for the first few hours I get off a plane.
Ambient Noise: People don't think about this but when you live an a place where there are 15 million or so other individuals within a 50 mile radius there's going to be a lot of ambient noise. Cars, the hum of street lights, air conditioners, garage doors... It all adds up to noise pollution and if you're sensitive towards it (listening for it at night) you'll hear this hum. A kind of frequency that I think puts people on edge without them even knowing it. Find yourself in the forest, surrounded by 1 individual in a 50 mile radius, and the quiet that was nature (and the world we lived on for 100,000 years) and you'll notice the Californian Hum. Its like nails on a chalk board to me.

Living in California, let me let you in on some things:
Renting a 10x10 bedroom in a shared house will cost $450 to $600 per month in the Bay Area.
Renting a 600sqft studio apt will cost $950 to $1000 per month in the Bay Area.
Renting a 3 Bedroom Townhouse will cost $1350 to $1800 per month in the Bay Area.
Renting a 4 Bedroom home with a loft will cost $2800 to $3000 per month in the Bay Area.

Gas is more expensive. Food is more expensive. Power is more expensive.
Everything is more expensive, from shirts to shoes, because there is a 10% sales tax in CA. So, after taking 15% of your pay for state taxes they then ding you another 10% of every dollar you spend. Living in CA is easily 20% more expensive at the end of the month compared to living in almost any other state.

What I like about Oregon is that it has all the things I enjoyed in CA. Great hiking, beauty, nice beaches, good food, artistic spirit, only now I pay tremendously less. Especially for weed. Having bought weed in CA for 10 years or so I wonder where everyone is getting these great deals on bud. 90 for a quarter is normal. Sometimes I'd get a friendly price of $80... but $25 an eighth is laughable. I suppose it is who you know. Personally, I grow indoors, and the final cost is somewhere around $2 per gram. Outdoors I could do it for less. I definitely can get behind the over-priced nat

Rather than $950 per month for a shitty little studio in San Jose, CA I pay $850 per month for a very nice 2bd/2ba apartment in Oregon. Rather than paying about $0.21 per kilowatt hour I now pay about $0.11 per kilowatt hour. A local grocery chain, Winco Foods, has taken my $330 grocery trips and turned them into $200 grocery trips.

The wine is good and cheap (I actually prefer the Oregon Pinot to the Central Coast Pinot) and the people here are really what makes it. Now, anywhere you go there will be some bad apples, but the overall post-college age (late 20's to early 30's) group of individuals here are very open-minded. I'd always heard "You're not like other people." Which I think always meant "you're not a normal Californian." When I arrived here in Oregon it just felt like home. There's a way of thinking, and looking at the world, that Californians don't have as much as a spoiled child would not have much in the way of philosophical insight.

The people aren't hurried, too busy to see the beauty around them, and it's this little change of pace that makes the biggest difference IMO. The water is clean, the stress level is way low, and the beauty of the PacNorWest is not lost here.
 

mccumcumber

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Well dude, your main problem is that you were living in San Jose. That place is a complete shit hole. If you're gonna live in Cali you really have to either live up in Norcal where you're in the nature, or live in San Francisco if you must live in the city.
 

bajafox

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If the price of weed is why California sucks then stay away....We're already crowded as it is anyway, we don't need anymore transplants. I'll smoke $100 quarters in perfect weather all year long :weed:

Nothing like golfing in the middle of December at 6:45am, now that's a wake and bake
 

Snow Crash

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Well dude, your main problem is that you were living in San Jose. That place is a complete shit hole. If you're gonna live in Cali you really have to either live up in Norcal where you're in the nature, or live in San Francisco if you must live in the city.
I lived in Ben Lomond, Boulder Creek, Scotts Valley, Santa Cruz, Capitola, Aptos, Gilroy, San Jose, Milpitas, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, San Clemente, San Bruno, and Placerville.

I didn't like California after living all over it. Not just because of San Jose (if Fresno/Bakersfield is the anus of CA then San Jose is the lint filled belly button).

Colorado was okay, but the people out there are fucking nuts. Like... on a whole different wavelength. I REALLY don't get along with Coloradians.
 

LaKapitone

Active Member
I lived in Ben Lomond, Boulder Creek, Scotts Valley, Santa Cruz, Capitola, Aptos, Gilroy, San Jose, Milpitas, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, San Clemente, San Bruno, and Placerville.

I didn't like California after living all over it. Not just because of San Jose (if Fresno/Bakersfield is the anus of CA then San Jose is the lint filled belly button).

Colorado was okay, but the people out there are fucking nuts. Like... on a whole different wavelength. I REALLY don't get along with Coloradians.
I don't even want to quote your novel above. To much room, I didn't read it, I apologize I usually would, but it was just a list of how Cali. sucked so... not to appealing. The fact of the matter is, it's an opinion & anyone from anywhere can bitch about half the things you did, smell, traffic, noise, etc. etc. People in Tennessee can say they have it better then anyone because they pay $200 rent, but do you really want to live in Tennessee? Utah is great because of rent also... an traffic is low, noise is average, so does that make Utah better? No... because Utah as a state, sucks... been there, done that, would never go back.

As for you living in literally every major county or city in California... lmao, sarcastically speaking, that is nothing to brag about. That's like saying I've had 40 jobs... it just doesn't look good that you've actually lived in that many different places. It kind of seems like you made a BS statement just to counter mccum's statement, when in reality, it probably would of been better to just say you only lived in San Jose & yeah it sucked. I can't imagine someone living in Santa Cruz & complaining about it... city is beautiful, from weather to people, the pot laws are nonexistent more then Frisco, the list goes on. Hopefully Portland's working out for you... Hell, at least you moved to a state with a NBA team in the playoffs right now, that's cool.
 

Total Head

Well-Known Member
i'm pretty sure this is not the case for most of cali, but my friend lived in san diego for a while and he said the cops give you tickets for swearing at other drivers in traffic and it takes a half hour to get a coffee at starbucks because of the pace of life of those people. he said he was literally the only person pissed about the wait. and something about men wearing capri pants. no fucking thank you.
 

Snow Crash

Well-Known Member
As for you living in literally every major county or city in California... lmao, sarcastically speaking, that is nothing to brag about.
You're correct. When my parents split up it was a pretty tough time having to move around so much. Not really something I would have even considered another person would think of as "bragging" but I guess it isn't like you know a fucking thing you're talking about when it comes to judging me.

I think every place has its appeal but the glory days of the golden state are gone.

Did you know they had their own space program in the 70's? Back when they built all the universities and major highway systems. You know, those very systems that are completely collapsing under the weight of the utter mismanagement in the state.

Santa Cruz is a beautiful place and I like that you picked up on that. Of all the places in the world this is one place that just keeps drawing me back. Most of the cities I list are within a 45 minute drive to SC. Hell, there's a place off of West Cliff Dr. One stop sign past Swift street. Out on the cliff... Possibly the most beautiful place in the world.

But that isn't to undercut the massive shortcomings of the state in its entirety. Just wait for a really major Earthquake to hit and level LA or SF. There's no money left. It will be up to the people to rebuild.

It's a nice place to visit... But I wouldn't want to live there.

Then again. I'm the kind of person that would rather not live in a city.
 

r1tony

New Member
So let me get this straight?! You are bitching because you pay too little for weed?! Seriously?! GTFO!!!

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