argueing with bricktop is like getting into an ass kicking contest with a one legged man, and he's the one legged man, lets just leave this douche alone, he will move on to another thread, he had a lot to do with ,IMO, Hobbes leaving, he just tries to show everyone how smart he is when he really is a just a ................kiss-ass
Dr Greenthumbs G13
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W Dragon
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hey guys i'm not here to argue, i subbed to this thread back at the beginning to see one way or the other if this strain was legit? i can't believe the arguing is still on going and that no proof has been presented. back to the reason i chimed in, it was to ask if any evidence either way has come to light yet?
Brick Top
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Yep, only 39 years of growing experience, that is all. According to Federal Records sensimilla only began showing up nationwide beginning in 1975. I was growing it in 1973. I guess you must have been growing it in 1969, right?
While I do not hold a degree in horticulture I am one of five family members who owns a pot-in-pot nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or runny nose kids, and it covers about 17 acres of land. My four family members all hold degrees in horticulture. Having been in the business I am in, not as a daily worker but still involved and kept up to date on everything, I know more about growing, in general, than most, and likely more than all but one other member here. While not taking horticulture courses in college I have attended a goodly number of continuing education horticulture short courses that I would be everything I own that you have never attended so few as just one of. Two of my family members with degrees in horticulture also grow and I have picked their brains for years for bits and pieces of information that I had not already learned. I have read most of their horticultural text books from when they attended NC State. I have performed extensive research online, and I do not mean like most members of sites like this do, relying on information found on sites like this. I have sought out and read numerous scientific research studies on cannabis about things people on sites like this do not talk about because they have never heard of them in their entire lives. Before the Internet existed I wore out library cards checking out books on horticulture, and when able to be found, books on cannabis research.
Of course I am positive that you have done all that, and more, and that you started doing it four years earlier than I did so I bow before you and your infinite amount of experience, knowledge and wisdom.
Brick Top
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That is absurd ... that is beyond absurd.
This is how the original true G13 was described.
In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires.The shear power could not be denied however and that's what made the strain's rep. As I said,G-13 was a breeders plant, (see MJ Botony p70) for a description of a sport but basically it's a plant that shows beneficial mutations which can be passed down to the next gen. In the case of G-13 it was a scraglly plant with lowish yields, but it had the desirable trait of massive resin production. So much so, that if you let it go to long it could supposedly choke itself. Some sativas can do this, what Shanti calls the "Widow" sport is an example, but it's very rare in an indica. It was during Nevil's 83/84 collection trips to the US that he aquired, from Sandy W the only G-13 cuttings to ever leave Sandy's garden.
If anything the description resembles G13 x NL which would explain the yield and fruitiness.
So how does what you called; "a big, fat, heavy yielding plant" support Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 being real G13 when the real G13 was; "a scraglly plant with lowish yields?"
Your own words, the description you gave, is only more damning evidence pointing to Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 being just that, a fake.
And consider his claim that it is: 'fruity." The original was described as being; "not very pleasant smoke, tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires."
How did something as rotten tasting as the original G13 was turn into Fruity Pebbles if it is still the real true original G13 in it's totally pure form?
yeah, what he said.equals
A finacial backer to nursery doesn't mean shit.
Copy and paste knowledge doesn't mean shit.
narrow minded hypocrisy has branded you nothing but cranky old man who's own cat tried to kill him in hate.
Brick Top
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If that is correct then that would make you a man without any legs and without any arms and only a big mouth in an ass kicking contest.
So you are back to your personal get some revenge for Hobbes vendetta? Cool. That is just more proof that all you are doing is trolling me because you are upset that Hobbes left and you want to largely blame it on me. You claimed he had some sort of problem or problems. Were they psychological? If so he might have left for virtually any reason or for no real reason at all.
People come and go on growing sites all the time. Get used to it.
doc111
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Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can actually picture this!
Brick Top
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In your usual dishonest fashion you managed to intentionally leave out a great deal of fact.
Yep, only 39 years of growing experience, that is all. According to Federal Records sensimilla only began showing up nationwide beginning in 1975. I was growing it in 1973. I guess you must have been growing it in 1969, right?
While I do not hold a degree in horticulture I am one of five family members who owns a pot-in-pot nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or runny nose kids, and it covers about 17 acres of land. My four family members all hold degrees in horticulture. Having been in the business I am in, not as a daily worker but still involved and kept up to date on everything, I know more about growing, in general, than most, and likely more than all but one other member here. While not taking horticulture courses in college I have attended a goodly number of continuing education horticulture short courses that I would bet everything I own that you have never attended so few as just one of. Two of my family members with degrees in horticulture also grow and I have picked their brains for years for bits and pieces of information that I had not already learned. I have read most of their horticultural text books from when they attended NC State. I have performed extensive research online, and I do not mean like most members of sites like this do, relying on information found on sites like this. I have sought out and read numerous scientific research studies on cannabis about things people on sites like this do not talk about because they have never heard of them in their entire lives. Before the Internet existed I wore out library cards checking out books on horticulture, and when able to be found, books on cannabis research.
That is a bit more than only being a financial backer or only having cut & paste knowledge, which never really made any sense to me when someone claimed that meant someone does not know something. If it takes an expert 1000, 2000, 8,000 words to explain something do you honestly believe all that information can accurately be compressed into a 3 line message without about 99.9% of the information being lost or not able to be learned by others because it is not there to be read?
How about the fact that the person posting the information had read it numerous times and knows it well and either has it bookmarked for quick easy access for answering questions or has it saved to a hard drive for the same reason or has accessed it so many times they know how to find it again in mere seconds. Because the information is C&Ped does that mean the person does not know it, or just that they want to supply the full and complete piece of information so there will be no gaps and their post will not leave more questions unanswered than answered?
And do you honestly believe that everyone who does really know about something has every single world of information on the subject memorized and they never reference anything and they never quote anything? Attorneys do that all the time. Doctors do that all the time. Most every professional does it on a very regular basis.
And you are a cranky old delusional troll. How wonderful it must be too be you, to live in a little world inside your weak mind that your created for yourself where everything is precisely as you need it to be so you can be happy and feel good about yourself.
heheh, there's an old saying," you can tell what a person hates about himself byy what he hates in others"
in clinical terms that's called " projection of the disasociated self "
(I noticed you left out any reference to the cat BTW, still in denial that 'ol Felix hated yer guts ?)
then maybe you might be wrong, ever thought of that ? some of us have been here a lot longer than you.
Brick Top
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I don't hate anything about myself and as much as I dislike you and a number of others here, I do not hate any of you and frankly I cannot think of a single person who I dislike enough that the word hate would be an accurate descriptive term to use.
As for my cat ... well I don't know if you have ever had cats but in case not I will fill you in on how some of them are, my current one being the example I will use. He is about 9 years old now but he acts and plays more like he is 9 weeks old. HE loves to play-hunt. He will hide under or behind some piece of furniture and when one of my dogs passes by, even my 135 pound Malamute, my cat will dart out like a black panther and play-attack it ... which is funny because my 135 pound big girl will run her big ass through the house as if a real black panther was chasing her. He will do the same with me wrapping his front legs around be and play-biting a bit and will then race off to his next ambush point to wait for me to get there so he can do something similar again.
The only time it is a problem is when I am on my spiral staircase. I do not know if your trailer has a spiral staircase in it, if so where it might lead I could never guess, but if you have ever been on one, especially one where the steps/treads are carpeted, with them being wedge shaped and narrow on one side, combined with the carpet they can be slick and easy enough to end up slipping to the next step, or at times farther if you are unlucky.
Well one of my cat's favorite play-ambush points is downstairs around the corner to a hall near the spiral staircase and he will wit for me, or one of my dogs, to come down the stairs and he will leap and come through between the steps, and go for your ankles/legs. When he does that you normally slip a stair or three.
What is worse though is when he decides to sleep on one of the steps and I walk down them at night with the lights out. When I feel my foot touch him, so I won't squish him, I will quickly move it forward and down to the next step. That is a very easy way to end up two or three steps farther down than you planned on, especially if you are not wearing shoes and only wearing socks since socks and carpet on spiral stairs can be like walking on greased marbles.
You see, the cat thing you said was one of your delusions. In your weak clouded mind you created the scenario that you most wanted the case to be, that my cat; "tried to kill me in hate," when what he was actually doing was just playing like he does so much of the time with myself and with my dogs.
You delusions have sparked my curiosity to the point where I have to ask, what is the color of the sky in the little world in which you live that you created in your mind?
i was just trying to lighten the mood
dont start on me i am over the moon that some of you have been here alot longer than me now you got something to put in portfolio, i hope your cherish it because it means so much
did you know he has been suspended 5 times for inflaming ? nobody but Bricktop is taking this shit serious.i was just trying to lighten the mood
i am over the moon that some of you have been here alot longer than me now you got something to put in portfolio, i hope your cherish it because it means so much
Brick Top
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*Yawn*
It's getting to be like a broken record in here............the same old stories being told over, and over, and over, and over, and over.............
I have to agree .... those who claim Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 too be real keep repeating the same opinions and beliefs and rumors and gossip and inaccurate information and hearsay claims of proof. That is why I asked if one, just one single one of them could and would supply even just one single piece of factual proof from a direct verifiable credible source that Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 is not fake and is in fact the real true G13 still in it's original pure form.
That would sure make for one heck of a change of pace and something TOTALLY new that so far no one has come within light years of doing.
Since asking if someone could and would do that there have been a number of messages posted, many or most of them directed towards me, and oddly enough not so much as one single person who likes, wants and needs to believe that Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 is real has done so, not one single person has taken a stab at it.
That is pretty clear proof that all any of them have to rely on to support their position is nothing more than opinions and beliefs and rumors and gossip and inaccurate information and hearsay claims of proof.
But I will keep watching for that 100% irrefutable proof to be posted ..... and if it ever is I will then clearly state that I had been incorrect all along about Dr. Greenthumb's G13 being a fake.