The Truth About Flushing

irieie

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You say '3 week cure'. But how many days did it take to become dry enough to put in jars? Bet you dry too fast not leaving enough moisture in the bud for proper fermentation to take place......
dried for 5 days. the temps were 68-74 rh 45%-55%. this aint my first rodeo buddy.
 

Illumination

New Member
Proper curing is the solution, it is not nutes in the bud as so many feel but rather the unfermented sugars that cause this
Proper trim and curing is what will make a difference...I did a rain feed the day she went into darkness on the lsd....and after curing not a pop or crackle and although I dont think this quality actually means anything at all the ash is white whatever the fuck that is supposed to signify as I never found it to make a diff in tastes smoothness or potency...Have never ever preharvest flushed and never had snap crackle pop
 

cowboylogic

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thats not the whole story. i harvested two plants, ones flushed and the other fed til cut, on 4/01 they have been both curing since 04/06 one crackle and the ash turns black the other does not and turn white. guess which was flushed. while the effects have diminished over the cure, there is still a discernible difference between the two. the cure is important,but it is one step in a longer more complicated process.
You answered my question with this post. Maybe we found the culprit........
 

irieie

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Yes we have...a 1-2 week cure seems to be the diff...wait a month
thats not the point they have both been curing for the same time. one crackles and the other doesnt. the cure time is not as much of a factor. also i dont know anyone that has a month to sit on buds.
 

riddleme

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thats not the point they have both been curing for the same time. one crackles and the other doesnt. the cure time is not as much of a factor. also i dont know anyone that has a month to sit on buds.
I have jars that are 5 months old, they just keep gettin better, everyone should sit on buds LOL
 

cowboylogic

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thats not the point they have both been curing for the same time. one crackles and the other doesnt. the cure time is not as much of a factor. also i dont know anyone that has a month to sit on buds.
I guess it all depends if you want 'Quickie Mart' buds or 'Sax 5th Anenue' buds........
 

riddleme

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thats not the point they have both been curing for the same time. one crackles and the other doesnt. the cure time is not as much of a factor. also i dont know anyone that has a month to sit on buds.
My threads are about getting better MEDICAL buds and have no place in the blackmarket or growing for profit world, some of these techniques require more time, patience and work but for med patients this is not an issue. There is simply no good reason for a med user to have to rely on inferior blackmarket buds for their medicine
 

irieie

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I have jars that are 5 months old, they just keep gettin better, everyone should sit on buds LOL
i wish i had the time and patience to wait that long. maybe if my production outpaces demand i can start squirelling away buds. maybe i should start by stashing away a half o from my next cut or from this past one. doesnt the thc slowly degrade into cbd and cbn during a cure that long?
 

irieie

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I guess it all depends if you want 'Quickie Mart' buds or 'Sax 5th Anenue' buds........
i dont think there is any reason why you cant have both high quality and high quantity. in fact if your pants have been grown in a quality manner then the yield should be that much greater and frankly when i hear this from people (and its quite a bit) usually their quality is not as quality as they think.
 

Illumination

New Member
thats not the point they have both been curing for the same time. one crackles and the other doesnt. the cure time is not as much of a factor. also i dont know anyone that has a month to sit on buds.

ok well then I do not know what to tell you ... I always feed til the end and never a problem...sorry that u do
 

cowboylogic

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i dont think there is any reason why you cant have both high quality and high quantity. in fact if your pants have been grown in a quality manner then the yield should be that much greater and frankly when i hear this from people (and its quite a bit) usually their quality is not as quality as they think.
I agree. Quality and Quantity go hand in hand...cant have one without the other IMO...
 

drgreentm

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dried for 5 days. the temps were 68-74 rh 45%-55%. this aint my first rodeo buddy.
these numbers dont add up, when i dry mine i dry for 7 days and sometimes longer (and i live in the desert so virtually no humidity) and at room temp 70-75, shit even when i wanted to quick dry i would put a heater in the room to bump the temp up to 85-90 and it would still take a while maybe around 5 days so i dont know how you could be drying that fast every dry and cure method i have ever seen say 7 to 14 days of drying.
 

irieie

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these numbers dont add up, when i dry mine i dry for 7 days and sometimes longer (and i live in the desert so virtually no humidity) and at room temp 70-75, shit even when i wanted to quick dry i would put a heater in the room to bump the temp up to 85-90 and it would still take a while maybe around 5 days so i dont know how you could be drying that fast every dry and cure method i have ever seen say 7 to 14 days of drying.
yeah sure:roll:. 7-14 days i dont think so if i waited that long the buds would crumble to the touch.
 

cowboylogic

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i trim about 80% then hang.
Then why call BS and call RM3 a self proclaimed expert. Its most definitely about the fine tuning for all of us. But to cut corners and then cry foul.:finger: Sorry, not in my book. And I apologize Riddle for mucking up your thread.
 

irieie

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Then why call BS and call RM3 a self proclaimed expert. Its most definitely about the fine tuning for all of us. But to cut corners and then cry foul.:finger: Sorry, not in my book. And I apologize Riddle for mucking up your thread.
whoa what? your saying that trimming when wet is cutting corners? thats the first i heard of that. i did just as this thread prescibed, fed til cut and compared with one that i flushed and i have already shared my results. how can you say that because i trimmed when wet that had anything to do with whether it was flushed and whether the flush had an effeect on the end product. if you did not understand the experiment, i had two of the same plants, clones same mother, same size age, etc.. for one i flushed as usual the last 10 days of flower, for the other i fed up until i cut. i trimmed dried and cured the exact same. my end results are a difference in the buds. the one that was flushed crackles and burns to black ash when smoked. the one which was flushed burned clean into white ash. how does me trimming before dry have any effect on those results?
 

riddleme

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Then why call BS and call RM3 a self proclaimed expert. Its most definitely about the fine tuning for all of us. But to cut corners and then cry foul.:finger: Sorry, not in my book. And I apologize Riddle for mucking up your thread.
No muck, some good info commin out of it and it seems to me to be a discussion rather than an arguement :) Those that know me, know I do not proclaim to know it all (if I did I wouldn't need to spend all these hours on research) I have big buds and I get consistant results, my techniques work (though yes do require adjustments in varying conditions) so folks listen to me (not all, LOL) I simply share my research and let folks decide for themselves. I never say my way is the right way or only way. I am simply on a mission to improve medicine for those that truely need it, using my knowledge & skills to reach that goal

besides I'd lots rather have Cowboy muck than troll banter anyday :)
 
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