Lost In A Sea Of Nutrients? Advanced Nutrients, Canna etc.

[Wolverine97]

i dont own shit. never said i did either. and what does making a nutrient have to do with how coco grows...we dont ad coco to nutes....and ive only touched a bit on using it myself. i dont like it personaly. i know itas decent medeium but not for my self.

@illumination...ya i get it. sometimes its hard to keep polite when all you get is kids that grew 1 crop and did ok think they know it all and tell you super bad shit all day long...not saying this is you but there is a huge amount of that on this forum being there are alot of new guys here that read books n think its the only way to do things./..unfortunate them books are from the 70`s and 80`s for the most part so its old outdated info...and i hate personal attacks....ive moved on.

So are you still trying to say that coco doesn't contain potassium? Again, for the THIRD TIME NOW, nobody adds nutrients to coco coir, it's just in there naturally. You know, since it came from a frickin plant and all that, and coconuts are a natural source of potassium. But hey, I'm probably just some kid who has one grow that was decent, and read some books from the 70's and 80's. Frickin newbs...

 

[Medi 1]

holly fuk dood...you obvioulsy cant read ...or didnt bother to read my appology and correction....move on already...maybe yoiu read them books wrong to then if you cant follow a simple post here.

 

[Wolverine97]

holly fuk dood...you obvioulsy cant read ...or didnt bother to read my appology and correction....move on already...maybe yoiu read them books wrong to then if you cant follow a simple post here.

I reed gud, mmmkay? But no, I didn't catch that, sorry. Snarky post redacted.

 

[hugetom80s]

Got some heated debate here. Good to see, a lively debate tends to get things done imho.

I just wanted to point out something said earlier that I've seen get overlooked a lot. Everyone just seems to automatically agree that AN costs more than anything else without ever really looking at it to see if it's true. Pure said that he doesn't find it costs much more (if any) than the comparable alternatives, and this is something I've found to be true as well.

No one seems to notice when that gets said.

 

[mikegrowstrong]

I use Hesi. It's hands off, real simple to follow and it works. Ive only used it in hydro though, so im not real sure about soil or coco growing. You just have to convert the schedule to US measurements, which isn't really hard. I redid one of the schedule is adobe illustrator if anybody needs a copy of one.

Grow Strong

 

[Illumination]

I use Hesi. It's hands off, real simple to follow and it works. Ive only used it in hydro though, so im not real sure about soil or coco growing. You just have to convert the schedule to US measurements, which isn't really hard. I redid one of the schedule is adobe illustrator if anybody needs a copy of one.

Grow Strong

Would love that as well as a link to the hesi line so I may check it out myself as I have heard great things

Namaste'

NEVERMIND I FOUND IT. Thanks anyways...

 

[puffenuff]

I'm using canna coco with the full line of canna nutes. My plants love them and I love how easy canna has made everything for us growers. For veg, definitely consider the rhizotonic, amzing stuff right there. Highly recommended.

 

[Alto]

I tried several varieties of Nutes over the years but I have found my experience with House and Garden to provide me with the best results.
I use the Aqua Flakes part A-B
as well as Root Excelurator
with Top Booster and Shooting Powder during flowering.
I also use Drip Clean during a Flush Cycle at the end before harvesting.

There are probably less expensive nutrients that will do as good a job, but its what I have been using and it works quite well.
The above product are links to the Manufacturer's listings.

Edit > I should mention I am using Expanded Clay as a grow medium in a Deep Water Culture system

 

[hogs]

Good day, Been trying to PM someone here but can`t seem to find out HOW...So how does one PM someone in this thread???

Thanks

 

[Wolverine97]

you don't have enough posts

 

[hogs]

oh ok Thanks I see what do i need 25 or so?

 

[Illumination]

oh ok Thanks I see what do i need 25 or so?

50.....

 

[hogs]

Thanks! for that info

 

[elfroggo]

I had the best results when I went back to what I had started with in the first place, which was Jacks Classic for veg and Super Bloom for flower. All my problems started when other people convinced me what I was using wasn't good enough, and they went away when I decided those people were wrong. Keep it simple. Its a weed, it grows wild all over the world without any human intervention at all and it has for thousands of years.

 

[Illumination]

i had the best results when i went back to what i had started with in the first place, which was jacks classic for veg and super bloom for flower. All my problems started when other people convinced me what i was using wasn't good enough, and they went away when i decided those people were wrong. Keep it simple. Its a weed, it grows wild all over the world without any human intervention at all and it has for thousands of years.

so very very true...props...

 

[gottit14]

ive been using hesi root complex and now im using hes bloom for flowering, i was wondering if i should be feeding them these nutrients daily or every other day or what im not sure, here are some pics all i have is a fan blowing and a 400 w hps

 

[hugetom80s]

I had the best results when I went back to what I had started with in the first place, which was Jacks Classic for veg and Super Bloom for flower. All my problems started when other people convinced me what I was using wasn't good enough, and they went away when I decided those people were wrong. Keep it simple. Its a weed, it grows wild all over the world without any human intervention at all and it has for thousands of years.

This is really archaic and inaccurate thinking. The whole "it's a weed" thing really needs to leave our collective consciousness.

What is a weed? It's a plant growing somewhere you don't want it to grow. Nothing more. Nothing less. A tomato plant growing in my garden is fine. A tomato plant growing out of a crack in the driveway is a weed.

Some would argue that hardiness, ability to thrive, and so on make a weed. That's not true, but furthermore it's not even applicable. "It grows wild all over the world" doesn't matter because if you have any sense at all you're not growing a wild strain. You're growing a meticulously bred superior strain in exactly the same way modern farmers grow wheat and other crops that hardly resemble their wild ancestors any longer.

Jack's Classic isn't crap. But saying that it is the best because the plant you're growing is a weed is like saying the best thing to feed a mutt is cheap dog food. Will it get the job done? Sure. Lots of dogs live on the stuff. But is it the best? No, not really.

If I've got a racehorse of a MJ strain in the grow room I want to give it what's going to let it reach full potential.

 

[Illumination]

This is really archaic and inaccurate thinking. The whole "it's a weed" thing really needs to leave our collective consciousness.

What is a weed? It's a plant growing somewhere you don't want it to grow. Nothing more. Nothing less. A tomato plant growing in my garden is fine. A tomato plant growing out of a crack in the driveway is a weed.

Some would argue that hardiness, ability to thrive, and so on make a weed. That's not true, but furthermore it's not even applicable. "It grows wild all over the world" doesn't matter because if you have any sense at all you're not growing a wild strain. You're growing a meticulously bred superior strain in exactly the same way modern farmers grow wheat and other crops that hardly resemble their wild ancestors any longer.

Jack's Classic isn't crap. But saying that it is the best because the plant you're growing is a weed is like saying the best thing to feed a mutt is cheap dog food. Will it get the job done? Sure. Lots of dogs live on the stuff. But is it the best? No, not really.

If I've got a racehorse of a MJ strain in the grow room I want to give it what's going to let it reach full potential.

so what is best or better?

 

[hugetom80s]

so what is best or better?

The best? Well that's a little subjective. I'd say Advanced Nutrients makes the best nutes but that's me. Basically it depends on what you get the best results using. Lots of stuff is better than Jack's.

Don't get me wrong, I like Jack's Classic. As far as cheap ways to do hydroponics go there's nothing better. If you're growing veggies or something like that, Jack's is a good way to go because the value of the crop doesn't easily justify a better (and more expensive) nutrient. But with MJ the improvement in yield and quality possible by simply using a better engineered nutrient is well worth the added cost.

 

[homebrewer]

I'm starting a grow journal tomorrow; DynaGro vs AN's Connoisseur. I'm going to put AN's claims to the test and there will be pictures posted, unlike a lot of the AN guys around here who never seem to have access to a camera .