Clones Keep Drooping and Dying
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Vonkins
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What the hell else could it possibly be?
My420
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Most of the time your clones may droop right after cutting them. Takes a day or so for them to pop outa it. Also I would recomend skipping the water part after cutting and go straight into the Cloning solution so that NO air gets in that stem. The faster the better. I usually have a 99.9 cloning success rate.
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My420
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Dome would not be the biggest issue..... if they droop and do not recover most of the time it is because air got up the stem or your cutting to small of a piece
Vonkins
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can you please explain your cloning method in detail. I've got on YouTube and watched all kinds of videos and I did exactly as instructed. Maybe your technique is better. Please explain if you don't mind
My420
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If the dome helped a lot then your problem may be your not keeping them watered enough.... DO you ever let them dry out? Cloning is very simple I do not use a dome. I used to use a aeroponic cloning machine I made worked AWESOME because it helped get H2o2 to the roots as well as kept them wet 24/7.. Also are you putting them under a fluorescent light 24/0
My420
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Hmm I have never heard of someone giving a clone darkness after a fresh cut... Very interesting.
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My420
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AND WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! Humidity is not the issue... The issue is from what you said about 1-3 days is they are drying up most likely.. You need to keep your medium wet at all times 1-2 hours of dryness and they can die...
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Vonkins
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Ok well yesterday I took two cuttings. Watered very well put them outside on the porch for some natural light. An hour later it looked like I had planted spaghetti noodles. So what caused this.
My420
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No problem..
First I find only the healthier branches usually the fatter the better, smaller ones tend to die more often especially if you let them get dry for even a half hour.... Most important is keeping the cube or starter plug wet at all times. Also when you cut at a 45 degree angle go Imedietly into the cloning solution. Forget the water first.. It is good to Ph your water at about 5.7-6.0 depending on what you use. Rockwool likes a 5.7 while rapid rooter cubes like about 5.9-6.0 ph. After you cut dip in gel make sure to use Clonex or the other one mentioned here Rootech which I use all the time because it is less runny then Clonex and sticks better. Once you have the gel on the end make sure you have the bottom inch about covered above the cut and stick it into the cube or whatever you are using and then put under 24 hour fluorescent light and make sure the cubes are wet at all times. Any time those cubes get dry specially in the first 1-3 days your asking to lose some if not all. I usually have nice mother plants but i like stems that are a little longer so i can trim the leaves at bottom. ( you only want the top leaves and then maybe 1-2 under it. Also when i clone I will cut the end of the leaves ( top ones ) so kind of put the plant into regeneration mode. This helps. Main 3 things. Get into solution fast, keep very wet, and 24 hour regular long florescent bulbs work great for me. Last time i cut 85 clones none died.
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My420
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Problem solved... Sunlight will kill them so fast if they are inside plants... Forget the sun grab yourself like a 2 foot florescent light that has like 2 bulbs in it and stick it under that as soon as you cut and stick and keep them there under that 24 hour light very wet and you should be ok.
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My420
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If you do put clones out side you only want to do that when rooted and if you do put them outside you need to put them in a shady area for at least a day so they can adjust to sunlight. so forget the outside because sun is just killing them they need a fluorescent light ( more of a soft blue spectrum if I remember right ) on 24 hours because this enduces regeneration mode in the plants that with cutting the top leaves in a A shape or what i do when i clone a lot I run my hand up the stem until all leaves are in my hand where I am kind of making a fist around them and then evenly cut the tips straight across of the leaves..... Same thing I do when I find my mother plants. I flower them pick the best one cut off all the flower leave about 3-5 leaf spots and 24 hours Halide it for about a week until i see new veg growth then leave for a few more days then back to 18/6 veg cycle. If i knew how to put a video up here I would show you the process myself..
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Vonkins
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do your plants ever hermi from doing that? Damn wished I could see that video
Goldowitz
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Really?? I take 12 cuttings every week and have a 99% success rate. I have been doing this for over five years, so that adds up to be almost 3000 rooted clones. How many have you rooted My420?
Like I said, I have a 99% success rate and get solid roots between 7-10 days. If I have my dome off for to long, I can see the leaves start to curl and when I put the dome back on, they are fine. In the end, do whatever works for you, but don't go around calling my method bad when you have no idea what you are talking about.
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My420
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I am replying to your quote... Why would you give your plants Darkness after a fresh clone cut was all I was wondering it just did not seem to make sense to me but if it works heck go with it... Nice success rate to. I clone about 500-800 Clones a month because I own a dispensary and basically have to because every one else is kinda lazy when it comes to that.
My420
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Ive cloned over 15,000 Clones and started with a 95% after week 1 and ended up at where I am now cloning all strains with a 99.9% success rate.. Some strains clone easier then other for example Sour Diesel take much longer to root then Blue Dream or Green Crack.
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My420
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No never. Only had 1 hermie so far and that was because a light was left on outside room and there was a gap under the door that my employee did not remember to cover that day ( as it was getting fixed the next day ) and light leaked into my flowering room and hermied my Fire kush. But that was it NEVER had a clone hermie EVER.
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Goldowitz
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If my success rate is "fake" then yours must be to. Nothing I said has been BS, but I don't care what you choose to believe, that is why I said "do whatever works for you". If you use low humidity and get good resluts then good on you. I use a lot of humidity and get good results. Different things work for different people. The OP has not been using a dome and is having problems, that is why I suggested he try it and see if anything changes for him, no harm in that.
If you really have rooted over 15k cuttings then maybe you can bring in some insight. When I take my dome off to water, if I am slow and take to long the leaves start to curl, but they always go back when I put the dome back on. If I am quick about it, I do not see a change in the leaves. Also, IDK anything about "easy cloning strains" maybe the NL is one of these, but where do SS AK47 and DP WW fall on this cloning scale? Honest question, those are the only strains I have tried to clone so far.
