And So The Hysterical Bullshit Starts Again

mtotty

Active Member
what if there was a white guy that knows martial arts and smuggled PCP onto the plane? the guy could take it and overpower a lot of people. but just because hes white, the pilot overlooked him. he was too busy paying attention to the college educated scholar Muslims, that were no threat at all. see the problem?

Luger obviously u know very little about the way radical Islam thinks they have everyone from young children to professors at major universities in harboring nations like Iraq that have been trained in combat techniques. I have seen first hand the fact that they do this. I have seen young children with bombs strapped to their chest. so if the pilot didn't feel comfortable on the plane with them he has the right to refuse service the airline he works for didn't relieve him of his duties so that should tell all of you something. but I am betting ur gonna say I am racist too. lol which is very far from teh truth if nothing should be saying I am profiling them unfairly but hey it is what police do on a daily basis.
 

mtotty

Active Member
"hadjis"

We can tell where your opinion comes from. If I'm right I salute your service but I take it you were part of the force that went into their country and oppressed them.
For their own good right?
It is better to kill thousands and invade a whole country for non-existant WMD's, and spend 10 years and counting worth of american lives and money killing and maming people across the land supposedly to get a handfull of individual terrorists, while torturing and creating ever more terrorists ever single day than to admit it was all wrong.

We just supposedly got osama, but there will be no end because we are an occupying force who isn't exactly nice either, we condone torture if not do it ourselves.
The war will just get bigger and bigger and expand to more and more countries. Do you want our fellow soldiers to die in Iran next, maybe Syria, how about we all just blow the fuck out of eachother until the last man is standing, and then that guy can claim moral victory.

They are just humans defending their land and their shitty ass sand sucking poor as dirt lives and they'll fight to no end just as we would if someone invaded our land and did the same exact things to us. Yes they're ignorant, but they didn't exactly get the benefit of what used to be our standard of living and have less options in most cases. Plus according to their religion they can't even jerk off or have sex before marriage so they're naturally probably a bit wound up, you would be too if you fell for a religion that horrible.

But all excuses aside the only people that win in wars like this are no part of the action and just reaping the profits. The least you could do is refer to them as humans like yourself, defending their people and land like you would. Had you been put in their shoes when you were born, you'd see it differently, you need to see it from both sides like that none of this is right period.

On more than one occasion in their country I saw guys fucking because to them a woman is good for nothing but procreation and taking care of their offspring. As or seeing it from both sides how about seeing vietnam from the side of a goock or world war to from the side of our enemies. lol seriously how retarded can you be. If I am out at a restraunt and I see Hadji walk in the door I leave immediately if I see Hadji walking thru walmart I get very weary of what he and his kids are doing.
 

mtotty

Active Member
Just for the record, Iv noticed alot of Americans saying America is at war in Iraq and Afganistan. Just to inform those of you who want to know, America isnt technically at war with anyone at the moment. America is currently engaged in two extended military operations, but America never formally declared war on either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Iraq and Afgahistan are just the place of operations or campaigns in the war on terror
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
like I said, if they passed all security measures, they should be let on the plane. Not arguing there.

I was just commenting at all the people who were acting like it's wrong to discriminate against people for the religion they choose under any circumstances. That's something I disagree with.

I personally have no problem flying on an airplane with muslims. If someone tries to hijack a plane I'm on, there will be a fight. Security is more than sufficient. Flying is not dangerous IMO.
Ok Dan... We have a no-fly list that prevents certain people from flying. Based on your logic this no-fly list is unacceptable as these people can pass the security checks.

Why dont we let them fly? Are we just unfair?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Come on dude, really? If I buy a ticket I expect to get a fucking seat. Isn't that what airlines do? I pay them some money and they fly me somewhere. If I am on time and go through the proper procedures without causing a scene I should be able to fly. I smell a lawsuit...
Come on dude, really? Have you ever read the conditions you agree to when you buy a ticket?
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
but I am betting ur gonna say I am racist too. lol which is very far from teh truth if nothing should be saying I am profiling them unfairly but hey it is what police do on a daily basis.
racial profiling yet not racist right??

If I am out at a restraunt and I see Hadji walk in the door I leave immediately if I see Hadji walking thru walmart I get very weary of what he and his kids are doing.
Well that certainly clears that up...
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
Come on dude, really? Have you ever read the conditions you agree to when you buy a ticket?
while "act of god" might be in terms and conditions somewhere i dont think there is a "having the wrong god" section...

those iman's should sue the airliner for all its worth
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
while "act of god" might be in terms and conditions somewhere i dont think there is a "having the wrong god" section...

those iman's should sue the airliner for all its worth
Yes, but the airline can refuse service to anyone for any reason. The imans got on a later flight and were delivered to their destination. What are they going to sue for?
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
Come on dude, really? Have you ever read the conditions you agree to when you buy a ticket?
Nah, not really. I haven't flown in a few years and I don't really know why I got worked up about this. They DID get to where they were going, just a little late. An inconvenience. Given the circumstances, I can see why people are weary about muslims (with funny clothing) on airplanes :leaf:
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Personally, I am boycotting the airlines until the TSA realizes that they have overreached (pun intended) in their extended search procedures.

Either the courts are going to have to force them to back off or they lose my business forever.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
This is my core fear here. Through legislation or intimidation, the power to decide who flys on a plane is being removed from the pilot who has personal responsibility for his own life, those of his crew and passengers to some paper pushing wienie that isnt even flying on the airplane.

Why do we stand in endless lines at the airport? Why would we want to lessen the security by passing these decisions on to a person who is not personally accountable nor in any danger if his decision ends up being wrong?
 

jeff f

New Member
I still want to hear answers to the following questions:

Why is it wrong to discriminate against someone for the choices they make?

How many people here who are against discriminating against muslims on airplanes would let a random catholic priest babysit their kids?
dan, you and i seldom see eye to eye, but dude, you are hitting this subject out of the park.
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
*BUT*

The imams caught another flight, right? And the plane got to its destination in one piece?

Hmmm, the plot thickens...
 

jeff f

New Member
next time i see a pimply 16 year old with scoliosis on an airplane, i am going to tell the pilot that they make me uncomfortable and should be subject to extra searches and, having passed those extra searches, will not be allowed on the flight.

in case you are too dense to get what i am saying, i imagine you as a pimply 16 year old with scoliosis sitting in your parents basement, dreaming of all those awesome businesses you would have started if obama had not been elected.
as soon as the scoliosis guys start blowing up innocent people then i will be uncomfortable with them too.

but because your example is so bogus and stupid and isnt happening at all, then i am ok with them flying without any undo inconveinance
 

jeff f

New Member
But these guys were screened, and let on the plane. Only to be kicked off because the piolt would not fly with them on board.

Religion? Fuck it, I don't give a shit about religion. But if people pass screening tests only to be kicked off because of how they look, then why screen at all? Why not just let pilots pick and choose who they want on their plane. And is it really theirs? Do they own the fucking plane? If you're a commercial pilot just do your job and fly the fucking plane. This is akin to a bus driver telling all "niggers" to get off of his bus.
no its not akin to that at all. if that "nigger" has a history of shooting people on his bus, than the bus driver has a moral obligation to keep him off the bus.

you see a guy in your neighborhood robbing people walking down the street. it happens all the time in a certain section of town. if you continue to walk past that section of town, that makes you 1 a victim of crime and 2 stupid.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
n case you are too dense to get what i am saying, i imagine you as a pimply 16 year old with scoliosis sitting in your parents basement, dreaming of all those awesome businesses you would have started if obama had not been elected.
Yes, I understand UB. You cannot tolerate the thought of an independent man who choses what businesses to start based upon economic and political considerations rather than just to fund Obama's social welfare programs.

So, you must delude yourself into some sort of pseudo reality to assuage your own ego. You appear to do that in many parts of your life...

And honestly, I really dont care what you think or dont think of me. That is why you are on ignore and I only catch slight pieces of your ramblings when someone chooses to quote you. You are insignificant to me...
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
well here you go folks, nothing to see here....move along, muslims arent threatening anyone. bhahahah

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/09/national/main20060992.shtml

i wonder if he passed the security checks
you should have read the second part of that article before you posted it jef ;)

"FBI and airport police in St. Louis were questioning the passenger. Lambert spokesman Jeff Lea said the 34-year-old Illinois man got up 20 minutes after takeoff and said he had to get off the plane. No charges have been filed"

first case was a yemin passenger second was a good ol' american.....
 
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