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[4tatude]

I wasnt aware of that, thank you for pointing it out.

bc99 isnt that the wonderful thing about the collective resources of everyone we know on here. with the senergy created we can collectivly solve any problem that arrives. even me a complete noob that started just a short time ago can feel comfortable giving (limited of course) advice to help someone with a problem they may not know about, but i do.
heres a big THANK YOU to all of you that has helped this noob over the bumps in the road to great gardening.

 

[billcollector99]

I was at the store today, looking at fans, and i remembered that you were battling high humidity there for a while, and thought that may have been the suspect for the start of your PM issue.

 

[4tatude]

I was at the store today, looking at fans, and i remembered that you were battling high humidity there for a while, and thought that may have been the suspect for the start of your PM issue.

no doubt bc not enough air movement inside tent and the rh issues mostly due to geography set the stage for the pm. i had plenty of exchange but with canopy so thick there was not enough air penetrating throughout to keep problems at bay. future plans for a sealed room so environment can be manipulated to where it needs to be.
another problem with my set up is such limited space, i could not pull unit out and groom/inspect easily so i was lazy and didnt do the necesary work to access plants often enough. im going to finish up the plants in veg but not in scrog, im going to do dwc so i can rotate plants around in the tent and give them the individual attention they need. more hands on literally makes us a more aware gardener.
working on the dwc buckets now will have update with pics of everything proly beginning of next week. after flowering these i might take a break to get all cleaned up and dedicated grow area set up. also need to finish up remodel in area the tent is in. ill have plenty of meds to get through the change over so thats not a problem. the problem is ill miss the growing lol. guess ill have to be satisfied with tomatoes n maby a couple outside.

 

[dirk d]

i was always tight on cash and had to just get what i could when i could. thats the reason behind my pm issues and plant deficiencies. i had just about every issue you could imagine. good thing for me is that i learned it right away instead of on some real elite genetics. i had to divert $$ to drying and curing thinking i could get away from the flower room for a minute. wrong!! that pm literally took about 4 hours of my time everyday for 3 weeks. it was a freaking nightmare. so far my new racks are looking great and i know they wouldnt be so nice if i didnt go through all the shit i went through.

main thing was i only had 1 fan in a 10 x 10 room. i now have 3 with 2 more fans going in. all the air movement makes the stems stronger, keeps the pm from getting established easily and actually keeps mites away as well as they dont like windy areas. lol. preventative measure always act like you have spider mites and powdery mildew in your room. get a good health regime going for your plants.

 

[4tatude]

i was always tight on cash and had to just get what i could when i could. thats the reason behind my pm issues and plant deficiencies. i had just about every issue you could imagine. good thing for me is that i learned it right away instead of on some real elite genetics. i had to divert $$ to drying and curing thinking i could get away from the flower room for a minute. wrong!! that pm literally took about 4 hours of my time everyday for 3 weeks. it was a freaking nightmare. so far my new racks are looking great and i know they wouldnt be so nice if i didnt go through all the shit i went through.

main thing was i only had 1 fan in a 10 x 10 room. i now have 3 with 2 more fans going in. all the air movement makes the stems stronger, keeps the pm from getting established easily and actually keeps mites away as well as they dont like windy areas. lol. preventative measure always act like you have spider mites and powdery mildew in your room. get a good health regime going for your plants.

isnt it so true that the hard learned lesson teachs us or rather enstills a fear of repitition and makes us diligent in the prevention of whatever it was that cost us dearly in frustration, time or money, or all three..great advice dirk!!

 

[G37Kush]

hey wassup 4tatude! Man its sad to hear that you got hit with PM. I feel your pain on that one. My very first grow was hit with botrytis and I wasnt very experienced at the time and I decided to put them down. But ever since then I have way more than enough air circulation in my tent. 2 x 16" oscillating fans, 2 x 6" air circulation fans, and my exhaust and intake inline fans. But its all a learning experience. Will always do better the next time around. Can't wait to see your final weigh in and smoke report.

 

[4tatude]

hey wassup 4tatude! Man its sad to hear that you got hit with PM. I feel your pain on that one. My very first grow was hit with botrytis and I wasnt very experienced at the time and I decided to put them down. But ever since then I have way more than enough air circulation in my tent. 2 x 16" oscillating fans, 2 x 6" air circulation fans, and my exhaust and intake inline fans. But its all a learning experience. Will always do better the next time around. Can't wait to see your final weigh in and smoke report.

hay g37yea at least it was only couple days from chop, i got it washed off and managed to get a harvest so not a total loss. tought me some important lessons, and will make me a better gardener for the experience. cant say enough about air circulation, more important than light or nutes imo. hell these are tough plants but environment seems to be the ticket to sucess.ill post up an update with pics first part of weekhavent seen you posting recently guess u ben busy, the og look good. i want to set up a rack of og myself, like the smoke wana ex the grow. ill follow closely

 

[4tatude]

VACATION TIME!!!!
Giong fishing for a few days, back late next week ))

 

[las fingerez]

i'm not jelous honest guv its closed season here in the UK until the 16th June lol good luck bro and catch me one

(pics when u return please, gotta be nearly done aint it?)

 

[4tatude]

Harvest
considering what they went through i feel it was a great harvest.
I trimmed the bigger buds, (thats more work than i thought) and cured in tent for 3 days. at that point the stems bent and dod not snap, so i put them into jars. i used 10 one quart jars to dry them out in, just over half full each. for the first week it still had the hay smell every time i opened the jars. in the 2nd week it went to the fruity spicey smell, and mellowed out a little. now they are completly cured and have a wonderfull aroma of spice and a little skunkey. i dont know total weight as i dont have scales, but i would guess 7 oz of finished bud. i have 6 qt jars completly full of some very hard buds. i have a paper grocery bag 3/4 full of trim and popcorn in the freezer.
The smoke is very smooth with good taste and lung expansion. it has a clean taste with spice very evident upon exhale. overall a very appealing smoke to me.
The high is intense with head rushes at first, then a nice high that allows you to relax and enjoy. It does not couch lock you but i wouldnt want to climb a mountain either. It has a mellow body high that is very gentle and the overall high is great!!
For my first time i could ask for no better!!

Thanks to everyone that helped me through my first run, im a lot better gardener than i was 4 months ago and owe it all to you...

EDIT-- pics on next draft below of harvest, and the new girls too.

 

[4tatude]

some buds i was testing with lol
and some of the jars during curing. i had them in the bottom of the canning cabinet in the dark, thought they would look nice next to some of the home canning we do.

 

[las fingerez]

is that mosture in the top of the jars bro? u wanna get that out or it will "hay" the draw, making it smell like hay leave the jars open overnight for a few nights, then close it during the day. makes it even smoother in my opinon

other than that a fine good job mate

 

[4tatude]

After the bout with pm in flower and in the veg chamber i decided i needed more accesability to groom and inspect plants. i set up a bubbleponic system with 5 gallon buckets. i put a drain and fill tube with valve in each bucket, along with a 6in round air stone to supply oxygen. the pump is a 20 liter per min pump and is the same pump used to run 8 water farm buckets.
i pulled the girls from the original aero system and plunked into the new buckets, i did have to rip some roots but it didnt seem to affect the plants. they never showed any sign of stress what so ever.
remember the dirty girl that i reverted back to aero? thats her in the right front, a little smaller than the others but she made the transition well.

 

[4tatude]

not sure if they are in right order as the program that loads pics here sucks!!!
I taped some cardboard to the tops of the buckets to eliminate light into the nutes. i also took wire coat hangers and made braces for the stalk and taped them down also. i used the green stretch tape to secure plants to brace.
these plants have been under 2 4ft double florescent lights with 40watt soft bulbs for 60 days from clone. thats a total of 160 watts, they have been on 16/8 the whole time. The structure is good and the node formation is close. at day 60 they were @ 600ppm and doing just fine. i do a spray of the garden safe fungicide every 10 days since the pm epasode to controll any further outbreak.
im very happy with the ability to inspect, and give the individual attention i think was lacking in my scrog. these plants will be a vertical grow with some lst for good measure.

 

[4tatude]

is that mosture in the top of the jars bro? u wanna get that out or it will "hay" the draw, making it smell like hay leave the jars open overnight for a few nights, then close it during the day. makes it even smoother in my opinon

other than that a fine good job mate

yea las it was a little those were during cure, first day. i did leave them open and they dried out enough a couple hours a day morn and eve did a fine job. the cure really made it happen. was shittin my pants at first, thought i was gona smoke hay lmao..... live and learn brother!!!!

 

[las fingerez]

sweet bro nice one looks like u got everything under control now

 

[4tatude]

In the tent i sprayed down with a 10% solution of bleach and scrubbed down everything. Pulled the pre filter fron the scrubber and washed it in same solution.

Today i set up bubble buckets, air lines and pump. set the 600 for 16/8 and put the girls in their new home. ill give them a few to addapt to the 600 and start backing the loght down an hour per day. That should give the girls another couple weeks before 12/12.
These are all wild child cuttings and should fill the tent totally.

not the best pic but you can see how happy they look

 

[4tatude]

some weard leaf growth on a couple plants, only select leaves not all. these were not the flowered clones, tho they have a bunch like this and a profusion of single bladed leaves. any ideas why they do this? doesnt seem normal to me.

 

[4tatude]

got a couple doing nice despite the 45 degree weather weve been having. they are the dirty sisters to the bubbler girls lol. they are in 50% rough perlite and 50% 707 mix in 3 gallon pots at the moment.

 

[4tatude]

anyone know whats going on here?