Using MYCOS question?

max316420

max316420

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So Im new to using mycos and it says use unclorinated water, If I leave the water sit out for a couple of days will that do the job or should I use RO water?
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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RO water might be a little too pure, is that healthy for the plants???
whats the point in using RO anyway??
do you use hydro or soil??? either way it defeats the porpouse???
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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max316420 said:
So Im new to using mycos and it says use unclorinated water, If I leave the water sit out for a couple of days will that do the job or should I use RO water?
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*reason behind using R/O h20 for 'MYCOS' is simple, chlorine kills microbial life.
you can use tap water but your mycos will probably have a hard time multiplying, you can leave the tap h20 out for 24hrs or boil it (but there will still be chlorine or "chloramites"-- spell check)
also oxygenate your h20 when using MYCOS, theyll thank you for it... o yea, a bit of organic molases will do wonders too ;)

**got any more MYCOS Q's, feel free to ask
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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i think you mean chlorides?? i understand it kills microbes, thats what its there for in the first place, leave it sit out and its fine RO is one step towards ultra pure WFI, adding anything to it or putting it in soil defeats the porpouse of RO completly
a bubbler will oxygenate it fine but it will also dissolve unwanted gasses into it, add H2O2 if you feel you need to kill microbes and oxygenate the water
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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rollinronan said:
i think you mean chlorides?? i understand it kills microbes, thats what its there for in the first place, leave it sit out and its fine RO is one step towards ultra pure WFI, adding anything to it or putting it in soil defeats the porpouse of RO completly
a bubbler will oxygenate it fine but it will also dissolve unwanted gasses into it, add H2O2 if you feel you need to kill microbes and oxygenate the water
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lol. i was close.. yes i meant chlorides :)
R/O is just water ran thru filtered membranes to remove chlorine and other contaminants *metals* (tap water is nasty IMHO, and i wouldnt drink it straight up.. IMHO)
uummm "ultra pure WFI"?? ---not even close, R/O is not sterile nor does it have the filtered element to be used for 'in vitro' applications... R/O is just ultra clean tap water :)

in regards to soil, i use R/O all the time. WHY? because i dont want all that toxic crap they add in tap water building up in my mediums.
(its not pointless to use R/O with soil, but hey -- each to his own)

"a bubbler will dissolve unwated gasses into it.." --what gasses are you speaking of?
 
BBYY

BBYY

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max316420 said:
So Im new to using mycos and it says use unclorinated water, If I leave the water sit out for a couple of days will that do the job or should I use RO water?
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So your using tap water I assume?

Your right, using tap water will kill the mycorrhizae.
BUT
Simply just let it sit out for 24-48 hrs and it will de-clorinate, then you can use it. If you have already watered with tap and think you possibly killed the bennys, they sell JUST the mycorrhizae that you can re-supplement to the soil/hydro water.
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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cannawizard said:
lol. i was close.. yes i meant chlorides :)
R/O is just water ran thru filtered membranes to remove chlorine and other contaminants *metals* (tap water is nasty IMHO, and i wouldnt drink it straight up.. IMHO)
uummm "ultra pure WFI"?? ---not even close, R/O is not sterile nor does it have the filtered element to be used for 'in vitro' applications... R/O is just ultra clean tap water :)

in regards to soil, i use R/O all the time. WHY? because i dont want all that toxic crap they add in tap water building up in my mediums.
(its not pointless to use R/O with soil, but hey -- each to his own)

"a bubbler will dissolve unwated gasses into it.." --what gasses are you speaking of?
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yes your on the right line anyway,RO (reverse osmosis) is a process where water moves through a semi-permiable membrane under pressure to an area of low solute concentration,
WFI = water for injection, ok yes WFI is irrelavent, i was just using it to explain that WFI is ultra pure water and RO is a step to producing it.
the only thing RO wont remove is molecules smaller than water so yes it will be quite sterile if done correctly,
and FYI RO is used invitro, even deionised water is used invitro
yea RO is ultra clean tap water. how much does RO water cost anyway??
a brita filter will take out chlorine.
do you realise that by adding RO water to soil you are just replacing evrything the RO process took out to begin with???
as for the gasses....common sense should tell you that your not breathing pure O2, theres :methane, Carbondioxide, carbonmonoxide, sulpherdioxide, sulphermonoxide, a large content of nirtogen (dont worry bout that it wont dissolve in water), any smoke particles , dust (not a gas but its there), and evrything that is being burnt in out atmosphere.... shall I continue??
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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rollinronan said:
yes your on the right line anyway,RO (reverse osmosis) is a process where water moves through a semi-permiable membrane under pressure to an area of low solute concentration,
WFI = water for injection, ok yes WFI is irrelavent, i was just using it to explain that WFI is ultra pure water and RO is a step to producing it.
the only thing RO wont remove is molecules smaller than water so yes it will be quite sterile if done correctly,
and FYI RO is used invitro, even deionised water is used invitro
yea RO is ultra clean tap water. how much does RO water cost anyway??
a brita filter will take out chlorine.
do you realise that by adding RO water to soil you are just replacing evrything the RO process took out to begin with???
as for the gasses....common sense should tell you that your not breathing pure O2, theres :methane, Carbondioxide, carbonmonoxide, sulpherdioxide, sulphermonoxide, a large content of nirtogen (dont worry bout that it wont dissolve in water), any smoke particles , dust (not a gas but its there), and evrything that is being burnt in out atmosphere.... shall I continue??
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**wowzers!! arent you the mad green scientist :P ,
yes r/o is viable for invitro and so is d/O h20 (but on a medical stand point, i wouldnt recommend it :) )
R/o water isnt too expensive, i got my hydro logic merlin pro for under $300, super easy to install.
brita is cool, but the membranes they use suck and dont last long.. IMHO
i do realize that by ADDING r/o into SOIL that the r/o h20 will be re-contaminated.. Yes that is true :)
i hope YOU realize that "I" want my h20 ..pure.. clean.. before i introduce it into my mediums (soil/hydro)... the key thing is BEFORE, not after ;)
im not sure about you, but i like starting with a reading of zero PPM in my h20 before adding anything (nutes-etc)

..no sir, it is not common sense to know what other gasses get dissolved when you oxygenate your water.. (but its good to know if you want your specifics)
..yes sir, it is common sense to know im not ONLY breathing in oxygen.. duh? :)

please do not continue, this thread was about MYCOS and using de-chlorinated water... NOT about how many other micro elements are found in the atmosphere :)
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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rollinronan said:
RO water might be a little too pure, is that healthy for the plants???
whats the point in using RO anyway??
do you use hydro or soil??? either way it defeats the porpouse???
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sorry bout this ^^^^^^^^ I didn't realize at the time it came across so aggressive
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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no.. worse.. my grandparents - parents - aunts/uncles - all various medical industries... And im stuck in the dinner table over hearing copious amounts of un-neccessary info LOL
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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cannawizard said:
no.. worse.. my grandparents - parents - aunts/uncles - all various medical industries... And im stuck in the dinner table over hearing copious amounts of un-neccessary info LOL
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lol im sure my family feel the same when i go on a rant!!
as for micro-organisims, im quite intrested in this... might try voodoo juice or one of those additives for my autos, i hear they are THE BOMB!
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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i <3 micro-organisms.. ever since i converted to full dwc hydro but only using compost teas, complex sugars, and microbes+... no more Ph'ing, no more PPM'ing, cant over nute with micro :) dont have to change out the resevoirs, just gotta oxygenate the hell outta your water so the micros can flourish and multiply, adding sugars can result in controlled "frenzies" which help clean out reservoirs..

voodoo juice is the bomb indeed, you should see it in action when its in a solution full of other "friends" .
i know that you are well verse in the science behind h2o/o2 , but so far.. under my research, i dont see any negative effects from the dissovled gasses in regards to the MYCOS.. in all honesty, unless your using only pure o2 when running your air pumps, there will always be other macro/micro elements mixed already with the o2 present..
but i dont know whats happeing under a microscope, so like it said, its working A-okay for me :)


**had to edit due to typing while eating doritos
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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when you say "friends" do you mean you can use the likes of rhino skin, scorpion and tarantula in combination??? would they compete with each other for nutes and space??
i can find out whats going on "under the microscope" if ya like, could take a while but it could be some valuble info :)
 
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