Coco Growers Unite!
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james gordon
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the ratio is for veg, and the pots are 8-10litres im pretty sure.
littlegrower2004
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lamb- really good looking grow you set up and it seems your buddy is doing a good job on maintaining their health. going to be a heavy harvest over there!
james- those pots are way too big for a seedling IMO. those roots are going to take atleast 2 to 3 weeks to reach around the pot and until then youll be wasting a good amount of the nute water your putting into the pot. i cant say for sure what your problem is but maybe they want more nutes, if your willing you can up the nutes on one while dropping a bit on another and you may find where your problem is. im just unsure since your nute amount seems not to be low but they arent burning as if its high. trial and error for this one until some one else can chime in.
james- those pots are way too big for a seedling IMO. those roots are going to take atleast 2 to 3 weeks to reach around the pot and until then youll be wasting a good amount of the nute water your putting into the pot. i cant say for sure what your problem is but maybe they want more nutes, if your willing you can up the nutes on one while dropping a bit on another and you may find where your problem is. im just unsure since your nute amount seems not to be low but they arent burning as if its high. trial and error for this one until some one else can chime in.
james gordon
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ok that makes sense now, in future how should what should i plant in? for the early days of my babys life?
It looks to me like your blasting them with heat from your light. And those little seedlings can live from the seed at that stage and even if you were to feed them now your talking a tiny dose just to charge up the coco abit to get the NPK balance and trace elements to the right ratios but youll be looking at something like 1ml per gallon if anything.
Also when growing from seed I used 1ltr Airpots from seed with no probs as regard to pot size, but maybe you would benefit from trying some root riot cubes just to make things near impossible to go wrong (I start in root riot cubes moving to 3 ltr pots once rooted and finally 10 ltr pots a week before the start of 12/12). But really just take it easy on the lighting, feeding/watering for now because seedlings at that stage can live with very little.
Your over indulging them to early it seems. Scroggsy.
james gordon
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ok i have sorted the light out, its now 45cm above plants, the nutes i have also dropped to a 1ltr feed per pot, with 5ml of a and b and a nitrogen supplement. i have noticed a few tips very small amount of dryness and broke away. i also checked my ph of the growing medium and it come back as 6.8 this does seem a little of. am i correct? how would i go about reducing the ph of coco if its a little high? my feed water also goes in a at ph of 6.0-6.2
littlegrower2004
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that does seem high it should be around 5.8 to 6.
james gordon
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the actual medium itsself? of the ph of my feed water? i mix all my feeds up manually cos i dont have an ebb and flow system yet. so what would you suggest to get the medium ph down? i think it might be casuing a few issues with my plants
littlegrower2004
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i dont ever PH so i cant say as to what my medium runs in PH but i would think since coco doesnt retain very much nutes besides what the roots use that you can do a few rinses with low nutes and PHed water to 5.8 to get t down a bit.
Your using 5ml per litre plus a nitrogen suppliment? thats wayyy tooo much mate. These little seedlings should pretty much be having just water at this stage.
For PH adjustment you use PH up and PH down. Scroggsy.
james gordon
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ahhh i must have said it wrong, im using 1ml per litre, i make up a batch of 5lts with a total of 5ml a and b and nitrogen sup. then i feed the plants 1ltr each every 2-3 days has only been one feed since i started the new program, so hopefully by this time next week there should be a huge improvement, my buddah deimos is absolutly flying.. its 20days old now but its only 8cm high. but it has huge foliage im going to post some pictures cos i need a little advice on a few things.
james gordon
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hopefully the pics come out ok, does this look like nute burn? its starting to spread to all my leaves on the bigger plant
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littlegrower2004
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yeah i would say that is some kind of nute burn or lock out happening. sounds like the amounts of nutes your using should be good to fix that for now. make sure your coco stays moist, if it drys you will see burning of leaves. over all the plants look fairly healthy so nothing to be extremely worried about.
Day 52 30th May 2011
Here are my coco plant's...
First grow too
Anybody want to have a guess at the yield per plant ?
1 Week Later
Just bought myself a 2nd hand Pentax k-x , 12megapixel
Heres some shots with it
And some more with the pentax
I now understand why they are called snow ryders.. They look like friggin Xmas trees in iceland
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And one of the supercropped Afghans
Here are my coco plant's...
First grow tooAnybody want to have a guess at the yield per plant ?
1 Week Later
Just bought myself a 2nd hand Pentax k-x , 12megapixel
Heres some shots with it
And some more with the pentax
I now understand why they are called snow ryders.. They look like friggin Xmas trees in iceland
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
And one of the supercropped Afghans
Day 52 30th May 2011
Here are my coco plant's... First grow too
Anybody want to have a guess at the yield per plant ?
1 Week Later
Just bought myself a 2nd hand Pentax k-x , 12megapixel
Heres some shots with it
And some more with the pentax
I now understand why they are called snow ryders.. They look like friggin Xmas trees in iceland
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
And one of the supercropped Afghans
Here are my coco plant's...
First grow tooAnybody want to have a guess at the yield per plant ?
1 Week Later
Just bought myself a 2nd hand Pentax k-x , 12megapixel
Heres some shots with it
And some more with the pentax
I now understand why they are called snow ryders.. They look like friggin Xmas trees in iceland
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
And one of the supercropped Afghans
littlegrower2004
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looking good ^^^. im not a yield guesser though but im sure youll get a good couple months smoke out of it!
james gordon
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its spreading to more leafs should i flush or anything? if so how would i go about flushing?
james gordon
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any help please?? what ever it is, its spreading and it seems to be burning holes in the leafs.....
Flush with a weak nutrient solution to get the balance back in the medium, feed at 1ml per gallon (4.5 litres) of A and 1ml of B. Sounds like you may have PH probs or lockout due to too many nutes. Do this for a week and you should see an improvement (if you dont see an improvement within that time then you may have a case of bad tap water messing things up for you)
The best way to run coco is to measure the strength of the runoff with an EC/PPM meter. If the runoff comes out 2 to 3 points higher then your irrigation is right. If the runoff comes out much higher then you are either feeding too strong or not achiving enough runoff. If the runoff comes out the same or weaker then you can bump up the nutes and cut back on the watering if the medium is not getting too dry .
Adjust the PH of the nute solution to 5.8 and never flush coco with plain water until final flush. Now coco you can treat more like soil with baby plants watering once or twice a week to start off with and let the medium dry out more while the roots develop, but once the plant can drink up what you put in within a day or two you need to start watering more frequently (water till runoff when the pot has lost half it's weight in water). If you let an established plant dry out the medium you can suffer salt buildup causing an imbalanced nutrient ratio and it also means that you will end up wasting water and nutes trying to correct your mistake. The key to coco is measuring the runoff EC so that you can water the exact amount the plants need and not a drop more. Mix up your nutes to the right strength and not a drop more, this way things dont get out of control, it will save you money and your plants will be more healthy. Scroggsy.
littlegrower2004
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you have learned well Scrog!! good write up there!