endogarden
New Member
Well, since the titan isn't necessarily better (IMO) and it's waay more expensive, it would seem to be the opposite of better and cheap...
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Well, since the titan isn't necessarily better (IMO) and it's waay more expensive, it would seem to be the opposite of better and cheap...
tommyo3000
Well-Known Member
I'm saying that a home-built DIY system with many 5 gallon plant sites, 3/4" or 1" tubing, and a controller from Aquahub would would be cheaper and better than a titan or a cap system..
I'm not sure what you are saying.
endogarden
New Member
I was simply doggin on the Titan system for being so expensive for such a simplistic concept.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I like the ebb&grow not shure about the flo, a diy is possable but as a system it rocks and super simple
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Its the same cost as the cap system
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
There is no need for 5gal unless you want 6 footers
hornedfrog2000
Well-Known Member
The reason I was looking at the Titan was the 3/4" lines, and the fact that on some of the sites I'm looking to buy from the CAP system has a disclaimer saying they aren't liable if it fucks up.... Greners I think.
tommyo3000
Well-Known Member
My plants use all 5 gallons for their roots with NO veg time in the system.
They are 5 footers.
They are 5 footers.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
@tommy Cudos to you sir 5+ footers are monsters but most of us are stuck with a limit of how high we can grow them.
@hornedfrog I think its like that with both brand just the company saying if it floods there not responsable.
Hey whats up guys! I have had my ebb and grow for like 2 1/2 months now and i love it. Its easy and not bad to maintain. This is my first grow, I just wanted to learn the basics of hydroponics. I feel like i am ready to get a veg room setup, but there are so many ways to do it and i just need some advice from people who have been doing it for awhile now. I want to use my current 6wx6lx8h room for flowering only. I have a room next to it thats a 5x6x8 that i want to veg in. The room started out as 6x11x8 and can easily be modified or split into two rooms. i also have a super closet deluxe in the 5x6 side and its just too big. it needs to go. I hate that thing it just takes up space. So basically whats the best sytem or way to sprout and veg for my ebb and grow system. when i transplant them to the ebb and gro its like they stop growin for like two weeks from the transplant, but they where from soil. So maybe sprout and have them veg in a somewhat large size of rockwool cubes using a ebb and flow table and then put them in the ebb and grow buckets? I am using hydroton. There is just so many ways and i just want some advice on something that works and has worked well for someone in the past or is currently using.
tommyo3000
Well-Known Member
I rigged up two 2x2 ebb and flow tables to veg in.. I use rapid rooter plugs and hydroton in square pots in the tables.
Osburn
Active Member
Watering and Nutrient Questions
I'm having a few problems here and there with my first grow in almost a decade. In years past, I did DWC with GH's Flora series. Now I'm using a Monster with GH's Flora series. I swear GH's Flora series is more concentrated than it was ten years ago because I managed to overfertilize my plants in veg using my old tried and trued nutrient schedule. Once I got that sorted out, I noticed that some of my fan leaves are curling down like the plants are being overwatered. I went from 30 minutes twice a day to 15 minutes twice a day. They still look like they might be getting too much water and the 4 x 4 cubes inside the monster pots are always wet to the touch. DWC with five gallon pots was pretty dummy proof when it came to watering so I could use some help with regards to watering schedules for the monster. And I could use some help with GH's Flora Series. The strain is 21 from Centennial seeds. The plants are currently getting 1.5 teaspoons/gallon of gro, 1.5 teaspoons/gallon of micro, and 1 teaspoon/gallon of bloom.
I'm having a few problems here and there with my first grow in almost a decade. In years past, I did DWC with GH's Flora series. Now I'm using a Monster with GH's Flora series. I swear GH's Flora series is more concentrated than it was ten years ago because I managed to overfertilize my plants in veg using my old tried and trued nutrient schedule. Once I got that sorted out, I noticed that some of my fan leaves are curling down like the plants are being overwatered. I went from 30 minutes twice a day to 15 minutes twice a day. They still look like they might be getting too much water and the 4 x 4 cubes inside the monster pots are always wet to the touch. DWC with five gallon pots was pretty dummy proof when it came to watering so I could use some help with regards to watering schedules for the monster. And I could use some help with GH's Flora Series. The strain is 21 from Centennial seeds. The plants are currently getting 1.5 teaspoons/gallon of gro, 1.5 teaspoons/gallon of micro, and 1 teaspoon/gallon of bloom.
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drgreentm
Well-Known Member
from the looks of the pic you have allot of room to go up in the pot, it looks like you planted your RW cube way to low as these systems flood pretty high so the closer you can get your RW to the top the better this could be a good reason why the cube is always saturated. im using the flora series right now but just switched to it for veg and im just using the lucas method for veg (micro bloom only at 1/2 strength 4-8 M-B for seedlings) seems to be working well i will bump it up to 8-16 M-B and this is all ML not tsp.
Osburn
Active Member
You think? I planted the cubes maybe an inch into the water during flood cycle and then put extra hydroton around the cube. I'm thinking the ideal scenario would be to put 3/4" rockwool into the monster pots instead of 4 x 4 cubes, but the plants would sit even lower in the pots than they are right now if the 3/4" cubes are barely touching the water during flood cycle.
While digging around the cubes today, I found some amazing side root growth that I never saw with DWC. In between flood cycles, the hydroton definitely holds a lot of moisture, but finding that sweet spot has proven a little difficult for a DWC guy. Any help would be appreciated.
drgreentm
Well-Known Member
im not sure about the monster system but mine (2 gal pots) when in the flood cycle, will flood very close to the top. if i stick my finger about 1" in the hydroton i feel water. im actually using 4x4 rockwools and i am flooding 4x a day when lights on for 30 min's this is why i think your RW's may be a bit to deep but thats my best guess but i doubt it is the amount or duration of your flood cycles i would flood more than 2 times a day unless you where using something besides hydroton. i have always used this flood schedule in my flood trays and now in this system and it has always been a great schedule.
Osburn
Active Member
Thanks for the info. Next time I plant a 4 x 4 cube into a monster pot, I'll put it right on top of the water line and see if that makes a difference. Who knows. It could also be the strain or just me sorting out my new grow room. Too many variables at this point...Even though some leaves are curling down, I'm starting to see aggressive growth and some nice root structure. Hold on 21's....The Qrazy Trains are coming!
Ferredoxin
Active Member
Im about to buy some Qrazy Train beans from TGA....it looks sick!
Osburn
Active Member
I'm happy with my Qrazy Trains so far. 100% germination rate and all of them have roots coming out of the bottom of 4 x 4 cubes even though they've only been in veg for barely two weeks. And the best part is that I can order them from my local dispensary. I remember back in the day when I had to take a flight to the Netherlands to get my hands on some good seeds...
Osburn
Active Member
I put some Qrazy Trains in monster pots tonight and noticed that I definitely put the 21's a couple of inches too deep in the pots. Live and learn.