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Round 2 - Its about time. A [Soil - CFL - Closet] Grow
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Brokenhope420
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Beta is definitely not hermie, or it certaintly looks that way... better not pull a fast one on me haha.
Quite a few more pistols today... its getting droopier today, and it hasn't even been 3 days since I last watered... I am definitely going to have to step up the watering to every other day. I may water it tonight before lights go out, just because by tomorrow when the lights go back on it will be drooping like mad, not good.
AHHH the vegging plants are too big haha, lowered as far as I can, tomorrow the T-12 is raised... it won't be nearly as close to the plant since the leafs are so big now they don't fit under the light when its close, and they sit in dim light. No damage so far though, they still look great
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I am pretty excited to see Beta bud
Pictures and Day Statistics
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 71 (Day 9 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/28/2008 - Beta
Day 31 (Day 9 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/28/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 59 - as of 2/28/2008 - Shawty, Triplists Triplists removed from lights, no more room.
Day 31 - as of 2/28/2008 - Everything else
Keep the comments coming
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Quite a few more pistols today... its getting droopier today, and it hasn't even been 3 days since I last watered... I am definitely going to have to step up the watering to every other day. I may water it tonight before lights go out, just because by tomorrow when the lights go back on it will be drooping like mad, not good.
AHHH the vegging plants are too big haha, lowered as far as I can, tomorrow the T-12 is raised... it won't be nearly as close to the plant since the leafs are so big now they don't fit under the light when its close, and they sit in dim light. No damage so far though, they still look great
.I am pretty excited to see Beta bud
Pictures and Day Statistics
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 71 (Day 9 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/28/2008 - Beta
Day 31 (Day 9 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/28/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 59 - as of 2/28/2008 - Shawty, Triplists Triplists removed from lights, no more room.
Day 31 - as of 2/28/2008 - Everything else
Keep the comments coming
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Brokenhope420
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Man I have been seriously scraping daily tokes together. Bubbler hits loaded 1 by one, pinching powder ontop of ash after each hit, maybe 4 hits a day! I hold em in for a min and blow no smoke out just to get a good buzz... this sucks. Oh well, I still find a way to toke everyday, and I don't see me ever missing a day of toking in the near future haha.
Plants still doing well. I watered Beta earlier, normal 3 day wait before watering. Temperatures a lil higher today, 88 was the high so far. Humidity at 30%. I raised the T-12s 1 rung on the chain. More pistols on Beta, and more growth.
Pictures later.
Just a FYI, I am planning on getting pictures every single day until the end of flowering, so in the end I will have a picture of what each day of flowering the female look like. So more than likely I will have pictures posted daily of all the plants.
Oh yeah, weird coincidence, Beta should finish flowering (for 2 months), on 4/20 hahaha, even weirder, is this upcoming 4/20 one year ago was the day I induced flowering on my first grow. Didn't even think about that til now 0_o.
Pics in about 2 hours.
EDIT
OMG I think I just found the sack I have been looking for forever, that I thought I was crazy and the sack didnt even exist cuz its been like 3 months and nowhere to be found... I think it is juicy fruit! the bag Betas seed came from, I only had one juicy fruit sack... Beta is definitely Juicy Fruit... and this bud kinda tastes like juicy fruit. I am so freakn blazed off just 1/2 bub bowl, i cant wait til my plants finished.
Plants still doing well. I watered Beta earlier, normal 3 day wait before watering. Temperatures a lil higher today, 88 was the high so far. Humidity at 30%. I raised the T-12s 1 rung on the chain. More pistols on Beta, and more growth.
Pictures later.
Just a FYI, I am planning on getting pictures every single day until the end of flowering, so in the end I will have a picture of what each day of flowering the female look like. So more than likely I will have pictures posted daily of all the plants.
Oh yeah, weird coincidence, Beta should finish flowering (for 2 months), on 4/20 hahaha, even weirder, is this upcoming 4/20 one year ago was the day I induced flowering on my first grow. Didn't even think about that til now 0_o.
Pics in about 2 hours.
EDIT
OMG I think I just found the sack I have been looking for forever, that I thought I was crazy and the sack didnt even exist cuz its been like 3 months and nowhere to be found... I think it is juicy fruit! the bag Betas seed came from, I only had one juicy fruit sack... Beta is definitely Juicy Fruit... and this bud kinda tastes like juicy fruit. I am so freakn blazed off just 1/2 bub bowl, i cant wait til my plants finished
.Brokenhope420
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Pictures and Day Statistics
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 72 (Day 10 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/29/2008 - Beta
Day 32 (Day 10 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/29/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 60 - as of 2/29/2008 - Shawty
Day 32 - as of 2/29/2008 - Slowie, Miss Gold, Miss Always Dry, Angie, Doube, & Fronie.
Waterings Today
Beta with slightly nuted water (flowering nutes), and CFL Joe with same.
Descriptions Of Pictures (Haha a new criteria, until i am too lazy to type it)
By the way, better pictures of how Beta looks overall tomorrow.
Attached Picture Number #
haha jk 
but please do damn that was a lot of work
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 72 (Day 10 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/29/2008 - Beta
Day 32 (Day 10 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 2/29/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 60 - as of 2/29/2008 - Shawty
Day 32 - as of 2/29/2008 - Slowie, Miss Gold, Miss Always Dry, Angie, Doube, & Fronie.
Waterings Today
Beta with slightly nuted water (flowering nutes), and CFL Joe with same.
Descriptions Of Pictures (Haha a new criteria, until i am too lazy to type it)
By the way, better pictures of how Beta looks overall tomorrow.
Attached Picture Number #
- Betas top
- Closeup of Betas Pistols At the top
- Same spot on Beta diff focus
- One of Betas tops close up
- In order left to right: Double, Miss Gold, Shawty, Slowie
- Same as above front view.
- Doube closer up
- Slowie closer up
haha jk but please do damn that was a lot of workAttachments
Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
do you have a lot of room and e ough lights for all of those vegg plants cause those are going to be huge man I would flower them soon if you don't have enough room.
badboybabyface
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was betta all twisty leafed like that from the begening??cuz i got a plant like that now with the leave growin in all twisted..maybe genetics?
badboybabyface
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Brokenhope420
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hahaha i know theyre getting too big haha wow. i could possibly fit 3 of them to flower, probably 2... but i would have to add more CFLs, meaning higher temps.
theyve always been like that, heat stressed and underwatered for more than half of its life, and the heat problem still is not fixed.
pictures soon. i may just move a few of the plants vegging to flower tomorrow... maybe.
Brokenhope420
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I just timed it, it takes 42 minutes to water the vegging plants... to the point they are about to drain but haven't and I run outta water haha.
I am really considering knocking out a few more plants leaving the 4 biggest to veg, theres room width ways for that no problem, but when the light goes up theres not nearly as much light on there lower leaves, and I don't want them to start dieing.
They also will all need transplants if I don't flower them like in hte next few days, roots are already at the bottom of the bottles like crazy... So I dont know. Wow those plants are just growing too freakn well haha.
I still have pics from yesterday to post when I get the energy too
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I am really considering knocking out a few more plants leaving the 4 biggest to veg, theres room width ways for that no problem, but when the light goes up theres not nearly as much light on there lower leaves, and I don't want them to start dieing.
They also will all need transplants if I don't flower them like in hte next few days, roots are already at the bottom of the bottles like crazy... So I dont know. Wow those plants are just growing too freakn well haha.
I still have pics from yesterday to post when I get the energy too
.Brokenhope420
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Sorry got a bit lazy... I will try to post yesterday and day before pics.
Today I checked up on the plants, vegging ones are getting way too big haha, twice a day last few days I have had to raise the T-12s.
Beta is drooping HORRIBLY. I have to water it now, no time to let water sit out for a day... but Ive found less shits in the water if I turn the faucet on max and fill it up like that... oh well... it couldn't make it look worse than it does right now haha.
Didn't look bad yesterday, but today it does... it droops in the half way mark... hard to decide if I should start watering every 2 days.
Today I checked up on the plants, vegging ones are getting way too big haha, twice a day last few days I have had to raise the T-12s.
Beta is drooping HORRIBLY. I have to water it now, no time to let water sit out for a day... but Ive found less shits in the water if I turn the faucet on max and fill it up like that... oh well... it couldn't make it look worse than it does right now haha.
Didn't look bad yesterday, but today it does... it droops in the half way mark... hard to decide if I should start watering every 2 days.
Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
as far as the hermie comments from those other posters go... thats ridiculous ... why would you post unsolicited advice like that in someones journal when you cant even tell if the plant is hermie or not???!! here is a little advice brokenhope.. never listen to what anyone tells you about the sex of your plants. i had 2 plants that were 100 percent female and i almost chopped them down because some stupid fuckers on this forum told me they were hermie.... and just so ya know i dont see any signs whatsoever of a hermie plant in beta. looks female to me... because you started with bagseed its definatly means you have to watch for the plant to hermie because its a high possibility. but by no means does that mean its a sure fire thing!!!!! and hermies do produce seed but the bud they produce is still smokable... not as potent or tasty but still smokable!!!
Brokenhope420
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Ah thanks for the advice .
Beta is looking better by the day... now those hairs that keep growing out of it, are they all called pistols or what? And how does the budding process actually happen?
Betas flowering is definitely noticable from a distance though, so its moving a long nicely. After watering today, she perked right up, and more newer hairs, plus it grew a bit in height, just in the 4 hours since I watered... I gotta figure out how to raise my lights a few more inches -_-.
The vegging plants are becoming ginormous haha... damnnn never had plants grow anything like this before haha, such PERFECT plants. I want to flower 2 of them... but I dont want a male to pop up and pollen Beta... if Betas not hermie I will get all seedless bud right? Its the only one flowering besides an immature sprout...
Pictures and Day Statistics
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 75 (Day 13 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 3/3/2008 - Beta
Day 35 (Day 13 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 3/3/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 63 - as of 3/3/2008 - Shawty
Day 35 - as of 3/3/2008 - Slowie, Miss Gold, Miss Always Dry, Angie, Doube, & Fronie.
Waterings Today
Beta with slightly nuted water (flowering nutes), and CFL Joe with same.
Look at picture #4, mutated plant 0_o, its got 3 or 4 heads... so weird... what is normally branches grew into additional heads... oh well, its kinda cool haha.
.Beta is looking better by the day... now those hairs that keep growing out of it, are they all called pistols or what? And how does the budding process actually happen?
Betas flowering is definitely noticable from a distance though
, so its moving a long nicely. After watering today, she perked right up, and more newer hairs, plus it grew a bit in height, just in the 4 hours since I watered... I gotta figure out how to raise my lights a few more inches -_-.The vegging plants are becoming ginormous haha... damnnn never had plants grow anything like this before haha
, such PERFECT plants. I want to flower 2 of them... but I dont want a male to pop up and pollen Beta... if Betas not hermie I will get all seedless bud right? Its the only one flowering besides an immature sprout...Pictures and Day Statistics
Flowering (CFLs)
Day 75 (Day 13 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 3/3/2008 - Beta
Day 35 (Day 13 Flowering; started 2/19/2008 ) - as of 3/3/2008 - CFL Joe
Vegging (T12 Floros)
Day 63 - as of 3/3/2008 - Shawty
Day 35 - as of 3/3/2008 - Slowie, Miss Gold, Miss Always Dry, Angie, Doube, & Fronie.
Waterings Today
Beta with slightly nuted water (flowering nutes), and CFL Joe with same.
Look at picture #4, mutated plant 0_o, its got 3 or 4 heads... so weird... what is normally branches grew into additional heads... oh well, its kinda cool haha.
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Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
if the one of your vegg plants turns out to be a male... trust me.. you we be able to tell that its a male plant long long befor it will polinate beta....those suckers are getting big man. you dont know what your in for!!.. they are going to get fucking huge when they flower... i would flower them right now....
Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
as far as the budding process works... there is a great article in the grow faq titled.. the anatomy of a bud.. its an excellent article that will explain how to expect your plant to fill out...
Brokenhope420
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Hahahaha alright, I think I will take your advice. Is there any way I could start flowering with the T-12s though? Switch out the tubes for 2600k? That would be perfect...
I dont think theres any way I could do all of them with CFLs because of how hot my closet gets right now all because of the CFLs... plus no spare sockets... I will have to keep thinking of something...
but yeah, I definitely need to flower them ASAP theyre growing too much every day haha, in another month theyll be 2 ft tall probably.
One of them I think I will put under the CFLs with Beta later tonight for sure, its on Day 63 or something anyways... so that leaves 3 other big plants, and 2 smaller ones...
hmm I will figure somethn out.
everything looks good right now, pictures later if I am not too lazy
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Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
welllllllll... that all depends, do you want to grow good buds or crappy ones? thats a serious question... because im sure you could flower the plants under the t-12. i just cant imagine the buds would be any good!!
if you flower with t-12s i dont know what will happen cause ive never seen it done befor.... one thing is for sure.. the buds will not be good smoke.the t-12s just dont have the lumen output or the right light spectrum to grow nice tight ,potent buds. cfls have more lumen output than tube lights. thats why they work for flowering.. the t-12 are great for vegging because they dont require alot of moving and adjusting but they have alot less light than a cfl.....
i would reccomend finding a SAFE way to get some more cfls in there. with red and blue spectrum cfls to flower!!! i forget how many lumen is the bare minumum for flowering plants. but it puts the cfl grower at a disadvantage because of the large amount of cfls you need to produce the right spectrum...
in a perfect world i would just tell you to buy an hps but i know thats not an option for you at this time.. just remeber SAFTEY FIRST.. you want to light up buds.. not your house!!!
if you flower with t-12s i dont know what will happen cause ive never seen it done befor.... one thing is for sure.. the buds will not be good smoke.the t-12s just dont have the lumen output or the right light spectrum to grow nice tight ,potent buds. cfls have more lumen output than tube lights. thats why they work for flowering.. the t-12 are great for vegging because they dont require alot of moving and adjusting but they have alot less light than a cfl.....
i would reccomend finding a SAFE way to get some more cfls in there. with red and blue spectrum cfls to flower!!! i forget how many lumen is the bare minumum for flowering plants. but it puts the cfl grower at a disadvantage because of the large amount of cfls you need to produce the right spectrum...
in a perfect world i would just tell you to buy an hps but i know thats not an option for you at this time.. just remeber SAFTEY FIRST.. you want to light up buds.. not your house!!!
Brokenhope420
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Ah yeah true that... I wouldnt even want to waste my time with flowering with T-12s, they need high intensity light for flowering right?
Well... there was a 70w HPs security light somewhere... it was like $80 though -_-... So idk. I could probably use plug in sockets and use 2 or 3 multi plug things to hang a few CFLs all around them... I think I could decrease the heat issue on them by keeping that setup a bit closer to the ground where the airs noticably cooler. Hmm...
I actually think I could fit the big ones in the current setup but heats a problem in there... haha I could actually lower that setup to a foot above the floor... i think it would be so much cooler in there if i did that... hmm im considering that
Well... there was a 70w HPs security light somewhere... it was like $80 though -_-... So idk. I could probably use plug in sockets and use 2 or 3 multi plug things to hang a few CFLs all around them... I think I could decrease the heat issue on them by keeping that setup a bit closer to the ground where the airs noticably cooler. Hmm...
I actually think I could fit the big ones in the current setup but heats a problem in there... haha I could actually lower that setup to a foot above the floor... i think it would be so much cooler in there if i did that... hmm im considering that
Jakebakingcake
Chillaxn'
ahh damn man.. i definatly encourage you too use an hps for flowering.. but your going to need to find a way to vent heat befor you get an HID light.. with that shit you will start a fire if you keep it couped up in a closet with a bunch of other shit in it...
Brokenhope420
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Hmm... true... maybe on another grow -_-... I will find some way to order one... but it may be awhile... so for now looks like I am with CFLs...
Once again low on money too... hmm I may be able to get 4 more CFLs rigged up somewhere in the closet to flower with... but I dont know if I have the money for any more than that at the moment
, and the plants are big they will need atleast 3 each to start. hmm... well actually after weeding out the males that could work... flower the 4 big ones, figure 2 males and have 2 females... I think I can do that, and get it started with only buying a few more CFLs and some socket plugins and cords... I will get on that ASAP .
I couldn't find the article in grow faq though or google, I was seaching anatomy of a bud... but I do think I am seeing sorta buds at the top starting to form... kinda weird... but from the looks of it Betas going to be popcorn buds XD. But atleast theres lots of branches and quite a few nodes.
Haha its so crazy, vegging plants 40 days younger than Beta, are almost as tall as it 0_0. Them T-12s do some work during vegging XD.
Once again low on money too... hmm I may be able to get 4 more CFLs rigged up somewhere in the closet to flower with... but I dont know if I have the money for any more than that at the moment
, and the plants are big they will need atleast 3 each to start. hmm... well actually after weeding out the males that could work... flower the 4 big ones, figure 2 males and have 2 females... I think I can do that, and get it started with only buying a few more CFLs and some socket plugins and cords... I will get on that ASAP .I couldn't find the article in grow faq though or google, I was seaching anatomy of a bud... but I do think I am seeing sorta buds at the top starting to form... kinda weird... but from the looks of it Betas going to be popcorn buds XD. But atleast theres lots of branches and quite a few nodes.
Haha its so crazy, vegging plants 40 days younger than Beta, are almost as tall as it 0_0. Them T-12s do some work during vegging XD.
Brokenhope420
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Yeah... Im way too blazed to post pics today haha...
but I raised the lights on the flowering setup, and secured it to the shelf above with a giant piece of duct tape, finally I can stop worrying the things gonna wobble itslef over and cause quite a disaster haha, all secure now.
I added more CFLs to the setup too, 3 or 4 more, rearranged it a bit... and I moved Shawty in there... tight fit. So lets see what happens... 3 more big plants to do something with... and wow, I picked one up theyre so much bigger than they looked 0_0. I will probably need to transplant them into quite a bit bigger pot the roots are so built up at the bottom of the 2 liters.
Beta is looking a bit droopy at the top, but it looks like the leafs are growing more at the bottom so Betas looking less "stickly", and its definitely looking like its budding a bit at the tops, so cool lookn.
But I think as soon as I get the bulbs for flowering the other 3 big plants, I will take down the T-12, the other smaller plants will go whereever, not too worried bout them.
I would like to take clones but I dont know if I have time to grow another round here, or if I have space for it right now... but could I flower clones immidiately? would it be worth it to take a whole bunch of clones from 1 plant and flower them all immidiately?
but I raised the lights on the flowering setup, and secured it to the shelf above with a giant piece of duct tape, finally I can stop worrying the things gonna wobble itslef over and cause quite a disaster haha, all secure now.
I added more CFLs to the setup too, 3 or 4 more, rearranged it a bit... and I moved Shawty in there... tight fit. So lets see what happens... 3 more big plants to do something with... and wow, I picked one up theyre so much bigger than they looked 0_0. I will probably need to transplant them into quite a bit bigger pot the roots are so built up at the bottom of the 2 liters.
Beta is looking a bit droopy at the top, but it looks like the leafs are growing more at the bottom so Betas looking less "stickly", and its definitely looking like its budding a bit at the tops, so cool lookn.
But I think as soon as I get the bulbs for flowering the other 3 big plants, I will take down the T-12, the other smaller plants will go whereever, not too worried bout them.
I would like to take clones but I dont know if I have time to grow another round here, or if I have space for it right now... but could I flower clones immidiately? would it be worth it to take a whole bunch of clones from 1 plant and flower them all immidiately?