ok sorry for this long rant in advance BEANZ but if i made a thread about this ad be ignored and we are on the subject anyway , but any one here in IT or is a TECH enthusiast will know what over clocking is , well for all of you who do and have been in IT for a while you will remember the good old days when all you needed was a p4 and some cheap intel mobo to over clock it to kingdom come all you had to do was re write the bios and flash the board and you could change voltage clockspeeds no limit, i did this to all my equipment my vid cards ram and procs were always to hot i made most of my water cooling all i ever bought was the cpu block and the rest i made from shit i found in home deport, it was so fun that this is actually how i got into comps , so slowly i realized we replaced all the master ocing gurus for a bunch of marketing now they sell boards that oc for more money a lot more money like a whole $300 over a mid range atx so we replaced smarts with money, you know got these kids that are 12 with i7 cores at 4.9ghz cuz there dady bought them the $5000 water cooled alienware, you know why overclocking was started, to beat he corperations to get more from your tech than they intended thats why we jailbreak ipods and unlock phones but now its a business you no longer have to flash any thing you just splerge on a $400 board and it comes with all the features you want. this anoyed me a lot cuz even a few generations ago when the duel cores were being intro duced i had a PD805 and some cheap intel 101 board and i flashed it had that fucker at 4.6 with a cheap as board and a lot of heat sinks but no one thought of it as good cuz it was only $300 bucks worth of parts, i then stoped ocing i am now on a i7 at 3ghz with 4gb at stock speeds cuz there is no more fun in it anymore, so why you telling us this mugan you may ask. well good question, i say this cuz i think this is what is happening to horticulture not just MJ but farming too, like for example these days people pick threads to read by how much ppl spend on the gro , ( i got 1000w on 2 plants baba kush or $1000 medi gro) titles like this are wha am talking about i have seen people use 2 1000w lights for 4 plants , i don't get it when people like riddleme grew a pht plant with a single cfl and some guy on here grew some hydro plant so big with just 150 w. its marketing. wasn't the reason for growing mj your self to save mula, then WTF is this people are loosing the ability to be innovative and following like dogs at what ever new product gets thrown at them. this BTW is why the gov will not legalize you think they make taxes with legal mj no they make so much more with the indoor lights and the hydro nutes and the hormones and shit god forbid the day i can just go to my back yard and plant some pot in home made soil and get 1lb from 30 bucks. this is why i can't get this seed its too pricy i had never looked at the price until now and i can see what happened to overclocking happening to us and its sad