The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

hazyintentions

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I just discovered this thread and I cannot even begin to exclaim how happy I am to discover this post and the number of pages it has created in less than 8 weeks. I am going to use the material in post #1 for all my links now, thanks to the OP for that.

I'm sick of corporate America, I'm sick of the bipartisan system, I'm sick of the media guiding the cow eyed mob of America, return to Liberty, return to our founding, Make America great again. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has been 100% honest and transparent since day #1. Truthfully I believe the mass of America does not deserve such a great leader, but I can only pray that in the next 18 people spread the word and open up America's eyes..

I feel like this is a situation similar to the Matrix paradigm, Ron Paul being our Morpheus, it's sadly a very relevant analogy.

Needless to say I've had a Ron Paul 2012 bumper sticker on my car since months before he even announced his presidential bid!
 

hazyintentions

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and you ron paul worshippers wonder why we call you brainwashed cultists.

ron paul is 'the chosen one'!

LOL!
You know somehow I was expecting that, strange. I'm willing to bet you won't find hardly any (if at all any) Ron Paul supporters who don't know at least half of his policies. Very contradictory to the countless number of people who when interviewed on why the support per say Obama when asked which polices they liked either couldn't name even 1 or could be given policies from any candidate of a different party and agree wholeheartedly. Now call me estranged but I would say that is brainwashed.

Or believing the America can continue a 14.3 trillion dollar debt, haven't we as Americans learned our lesson on debt already? Why can we not apply the same principles we use to conserve our money on our government? Why can we NOT follow the constitution? A constitution which IS the longest standing formally introduced constitution of any country period. Now we are not obeying our laws set out by our founders and look where we are.

It is when you make personal attacks like that that I loose faith in our countrymen, stop relying on emotion and go look at the videos, and congressional rulings yourself. at this point I don't agree with all of Dr. Paul's civic beliefs ie: abortion but that's a non issue when our country is about to go bottom up in debt and corruption.

as far as the Matrix analogy, is it really that far fetched of a general idea? A nation of people fooled into believing something forced their throats through a sourced of controlled media of otherwise? And just a select few standing out and believing in liberty and freedoms given to us by our constitution? Federal governemnt shouldn't manage our lives, many of the regulations they try to enforce should be state responsibility. I also find it hard to believe that you being a member of a pro marijuana forum might not see the issue between state and federal laws and the scandal that is incurred.
 

UncleBuck

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You know somehow I was expecting that, strange. I'm willing to bet you won't find hardly any (if at all any) Ron Paul supporters who don't know at least half of his policies. Very contradictory to the countless number of people who when interviewed on why the support per say Obama when asked which polices they liked either couldn't name even 1 or could be given policies from any candidate of a different party and agree wholeheartedly. Now call me estranged but I would say that is brainwashed.

Or believing the America can continue a 14.3 trillion dollar debt, haven't we as Americans learned our lesson on debt already? Why can we not apply the same principles we use to conserve our money on our government? Why can we NOT follow the constitution? A constitution which IS the longest standing formally introduced constitution of any country period. Now we are not obeying our laws set out by our founders and look where we are.

It is when you make personal attacks like that that I loose faith in our countrymen, stop relying on emotion and go look at the videos, and congressional rulings yourself. at this point I don't agree with all of Dr. Paul's civic beliefs ie: abortion but that's a non issue when our country is about to go bottom up in debt and corruption.

as far as the Matrix analogy, is it really that far fetched of a general idea? A nation of people fooled into believing something forced their throats through a sourced of controlled media of otherwise? And just a select few standing out and believing in liberty and freedoms given to us by our constitution? Federal governemnt shouldn't manage our lives, many of the regulations they try to enforce should be state responsibility. I also find it hard to believe that you being a member of a pro marijuana forum might not see the issue between state and federal laws and the scandal that is incurred.
you make a lot of assumptions and very few are true.

ron paul is still polling at about 7% :lol:

he garnered a whopping 0.00032% of the vote last time around.

yet the politics section is flooded with threads about the old turtle fucker.

do all 40,000 or so people who actually support ron paul with their vote all hang out on political forums of pot websites?

:bongsmilie:
 

deprave

New Member
I just discovered this thread and I cannot even begin to exclaim how happy I am to discover this post and the number of pages it has created in less than 8 weeks. I am going to use the material in post #1 for all my links now, thanks to the OP for that.

I'm sick of corporate America, I'm sick of the bipartisan system, I'm sick of the media guiding the cow eyed mob of America, return to Liberty, return to our founding, Make America great again. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has been 100% honest and transparent since day #1. Truthfully I believe the mass of America does not deserve such a great leader, but I can only pray that in the next 18 people spread the word and open up America's eyes..

I feel like this is a situation similar to the Matrix paradigm, Ron Paul being our Morpheus, it's sadly a very relevant analogy.

Needless to say I've had a Ron Paul 2012 bumper sticker on my car since months before he even announced his presidential bid!
Thanks for stopping by my thread and for your kind words, wish I had more time to chat right now but I gotta go, checkout my blog freedomftw.net for more info, ignore the angry trolls
 

jdro

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he garnered a whopping 0.00032% of the vote last time around.
Hard to get votes when your not on the ballot. He had over 1 million votes nation wide in the primaries. Go troll somewhere else.

Loving this thread deprave. Nice work!! I am working on my 5 people! Also trying to get them all to get 5 people out in the primaries!! RP2012!!
 

hazyintentions

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you make a lot of assumptions and very few are true.
Please indulge me. Show me what isn't true if you believe so, post links, videos, evidence.

I can easily find videos of countless people who polled Obama supporters who didn't have a clue. sad to say alot of them are in my age range (kids)
I may not be correct on our constitution being the oldest still standing but I'm pretty sure I am.

Sure he's polling at 7% (wherever that number came from, MSNBC perhaps?? ) , that's against corporate sponsored goons like Mitt Romney and Guilliana (however the fvck it's spelled). But in head to head polls if it was him or Obama he's pretty damn close, sorry that's beyond the point..

As they said, he wasn't on the ballot, hard to garner votes like that ehh??

You know it makes since tha the politics section of a pot growing forum WOULD be flooded by the only presidential candidate who DOES support marijuana legalization doesn't it, why do you have to be a smart ass? That's not even one of the big reasons why I support him but it's a definite plus. And I would venture to say the with nearly 5000 posts under your username since March 2010 that you either troll all the time or have some stake in the marijuana community albeit whehter growing or running a dispensary etc etc. So why wouldn't you like a guy who wants to FED to butt out of state affairs? You know no matter what the state laws says the Federal govt will walk right over it and through you door if they decided they wanted too.

Look you can keep trolling and posting snobby and ignorant remarks reading off numbers that the media puts out to discredit Ron Paul and I'll do this tango all day, but if you come here with some good facts and links to support them I'll hear you out.
 

UncleBuck

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Hard to get votes when your not on the ballot. He had over 1 million votes nation wide in the primaries. Go troll somewhere else.

Loving this thread deprave. Nice work!! I am working on my 5 people! Also trying to get them all to get 5 people out in the primaries!! RP2012!!
how hard is it to write "ron paul" on a piece of paper? :dunce:

the bell tolled and 40,000 or so people answered.

how is pointing out factual information trolling? am i upsetting you by reminding you about facts concerning your god and hero? :lol:
 

jdro

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how hard is it to write "ron paul" on a piece of paper? :dunce:

the bell tolled and 40,000 or so people answered.

how is pointing out factual information trolling? am i upsetting you by reminding you about facts concerning your god and hero? :lol:
blah, blah, troll, troll. This bowl of Orange Kush is for you troll. We both know write in votes dont count in much of the country, and even if they do count they seem to get "lost". You cant explain over 1 million votes in the primaries when he WAS on the ballot though can you???
 

UncleBuck

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Sure he's polling at 7% (wherever that number came from, MSNBC perhaps?? )
all of the polls have him at about 7%. nice attempt to try to blame it on that "liberal media" (boo hoo). if only the liberal media were to get out of the way, people would "wake up" and "open their eyes" and join your silly little cult.

As they said, he wasn't on the ballot, hard to garner votes like that ehh??
i thought you ron paul cultists were the smart, informed ones. so how hard could it be for some intelligent human beings to scribble "ron paul" on a piece of paper?

it is not some sisyphean ordeal, ya know :lol:

You know it makes since tha the politics section of a pot growing forum WOULD be flooded by the only presidential candidate who DOES support marijuana legalization doesn't it, why do you have to be a smart ass?
kucinich supports legalization, why is there no thread urging him to run independent or challenge obama? he has about as much of a chance as ron paul does :lol:

and you left out gary johnson. he is an official candidate and supports cannabis re-legalization.

it makes "since"? what the fuck are you trying to say?

So why wouldn't you like a guy who wants to FED to butt out of state affairs?
i'll ask you the same question i asked the JBS wingnut the other day: can you name one strong nation that does not have a central bank?

Look you can keep trolling and posting snobby and ignorant remarks reading off numbers that the media puts out to discredit Ron Paul...
woah!

i had no idea scientific polls conducted by multiple independent companies was somehow a media conspiracy to silence ron paul :lol:

i had no idea the results of the 2008 presidential election were a conspiracy to discredit ron paul :dunce:

you had no idea that there are other candidates who support re-legalization, yet i am the one making ignorant remarks?

LOL!

so funny how anyone that does not worship at the altar of ron paul is automatically labeled a troll. just about as funny as the media conspiracy to discredit him that you speak of.

fucking GRAND.
 

UncleBuck

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blah, blah, troll, troll. This bowl of Orange Kush is for you troll. We both know write in votes dont count in much of the country, and even if they do count they seem to get "lost". You cant explain over 1 million votes in the primaries when he WAS on the ballot though can you???
if he got all those 1 million votes in the general election, he would have scored a pathetic less than 1% :lol:

please show me what states do not allow write in votes. please, i'll be waiting.

again, anyone who does not worship at the altar of ron paul is a troll :lol: that is just about as funny as not allowing write in votes. :dunce:
 

jdro

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Unclebuck why don't you supply some links to support claims you make. What poll shows RP at 7%? You are a troll because you make unsupported claims.

From the Boston Globe on June, 5 2008.

"With the Republican primaries over as well this week, Ron Paul easily passed the 1 million vote mark."

THATS EASILY OVER 1 MILLION IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. I know a ton of democrats who would of voted for him in a general election too, so put that number WAY over 1 million RP supporters.

LINK: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/paul_racking_up.html
 

jdro

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A write-in vote is not worthless in States that do not have a Sore Loser Law, 14 I believe. ALL other states require a write in vote to be registered to be counted. RP did not register because he pulled out of the race after the GOP convention because he had a local race to win. Therefor in all other states his write ins WERE NOT COUNTED!!
 

hazyintentions

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Wish I could share that bowl of Orange Kush my friend !

To the troll, Why are you still referring back to the 2008 election? That's old news, I sadly didn't even know of Ron Paul then. And in that lies the problem.

I'm not denying that he got a miniscule % but I'm hoping america learns it's lesson. I'm willing to bet my entire life's earnings that if every single American was given a DVD or otherwise equal piece of information where every known and unknown candidates history, background, policies, beliefs, vote history, and affiliations etc where made transparent and un biased Ron Paul would see a staggering number of supporters. But as I said it's history now, what bugs me is that you are simply belligerently calling names and pointing out useless fact from 3 years ago and not even trying to discuss why you don't like him, what policy of his offends you? Instead I expect another non thought out and short handed reply from you.

You keep saying god, he's not my god, he is my hero, he has stood up for his beliefs against all odds and every major news network, he has NEVER voted against what he said, he is always speaking out for what he campaigns for. In my eyes I call that an honest man, the only one of any of the candidates running. That's more than I can say for any other viable presidential material, Obama rode the media wave on his way to office, McCain was basically pushed in the faces of American citizens. This time around it's this Mitt Romney fucker. I bet that's who you support isn't it?

In lue of Romney is is a super relevant video for you. [video=youtube;Rlz8zQoLs1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rlz8zQoLs1s[/video]

If anyone is a turtle fucking whatever you said it's that guy.
 

UncleBuck

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A write-in vote is not worthless in States that do not have a Sore Loser Law, 14 I believe. ALL other states require a write in vote to be registered to be counted. RP did not register because he pulled out of the race after the GOP convention because he had a local race to win. Therefor in all other states his write ins WERE NOT COUNTED!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore-loser_law

In United States politics, a sore-loser law is a law which states that the loser in a primary election can't then run as an independent in the general election.[1] These laws do not apply to presidential candidates. Many states accomplish the same requirement by having simultaneous registration dates for the primary and the general election; in fact only the states of Connecticut, Iowa, New York and Vermont don't have either a sore-loser law or simultaneous registration deadlines.
wtf are you talking about?

they even counted votes for santa claus and donald duck, who were not even official candidates for president.

your claims are false.
 

jdro

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sorry, i figured any intelligent human being should be able to type a few words into google.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
Reviewing those numbers, I see the dire trouble this country is in. Also, You fail to mention that RP is pretty much even with everyone except Romney at the minute. For Sarah Palin to be leading any poll is a disgrace. So your a Romney supporter? Its all starting to make sense....
 

UncleBuck

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Reviewing those numbers, I see the dire trouble this country is in. Also, You fail to mention that RP is pretty much even with everyone except Romney at the minute. For Sarah Palin to be leading any poll is a disgrace. So your a Romney supporter? Its all starting to make sense....
7.8 and 13.5 are "even"?

that is the type of fact one would learn in junior college.

and actually, if i had to swoop a turd out of the shit-pool of GOP candidates, i would take gary johnson or jon huntsman all day long, rather than the squirrel turd who wears adult diapers and violates turtles.
 
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