UncleBuck
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i would not be proud of defending racism unless i was a proud racist.
The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2
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sync0s
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For somebody who is on a website such as this you should surely realize the ignorance in this post.
1) The government is being an enabler by imprisoning drug users. Why? When these people leave prison they not only have a criminal record, by they have to pay fines, could have lost their job, house, and loved ones. What will a drug addict resort to under such dire circumstances? Drugs.
2) How is allowing illegal black market cartels to control the drug sales in the United States more preventative of child usage than legalizing and having the ability to control?
3) Can't you realize that by legalizing a drug user could be prompted with treatment solutions during ever purchase (like gambling), as well as allow doctor supervision of the drug usage?
Have you ever seen one of those doctor shows like ER or scrubs and what not? Ever notice how all of them paint the picture of drug use affects and how their friends/family lie and say they don't know what is wrong with the person? Imagine if it was legal, and they had to buy from a doctor; the doctors could simply pull up the persons medical file and easily see what is wrong and would be able to treat the drug users much quicker and more efficient, and could, theoretically, increase the mortality rate of drug over doses.
tryingtogrow89
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Blacks were bought and paid for.
Why would you abuse something you paid good money for?
They were usually taken care of.
My statement in your signature was taken out of context.
Don't twist this into me insinuating slavery is good.
You and your warming propaganda is more indicative of being a cultist than standing for liberty by a long shot.
You have allot to learn, have a nice day.
sync0s
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To keep them in line....? Are you serious? If you call getting whipped, fingers cut off, shot and killed, and forced to make a child with the chosen male/female not being abused and being well taken care of.. your out of your mind.
tryingtogrow89
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Fucked up shit happened then fucked up stuff happens now.
The situation you illustrated is not the only side of the story and the whipping was usually on the boats.
londonfog
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ok thanks for the haha...but imagine this you have a beautiful little girl that is now in college...she goes to a party and does heroin for it is now legal..she likes it, because it makes her feel good...now she does it only on the weekend..she loves it for it makes her feel powerful...she now starts doing it on the weekday as well ( after class)..hey it is legal now so she is all good, but what about her life..??? Now we have daddy's little girl hook on heroin with the help of daddy for he thought it to be a good idea to make it legal and readily obtainable
Mr Neutron
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Following that logic THEN we should make alcohol illegal... wait, wasn't that tried already? More beautiful little college girls abuse alcohol THAN hard drugs. Maybe if parents spent more time with their kids instead of asking government to protect them, they would grow up to be responsible adults.
londonfog
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so you really comparing a beer to heroin ???
jdro
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Alcohol has 150 deaths per 100,000 users per year and heroin has 80 deaths per 100,000 users per year. It is comparable. In fact, alcohol by the numbers is far more dangerous.
hazyintentions
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Why are we arguing about heroin? Of course 99.9% of the users on this forum don't want it to be legal, it is the morality of the federal government enforcing which substances we as a people should and should not use that Ron Paul puts under fire, to run that idea straight into the preamble of "So Ron Paul wants to legalize heroin." is completely devoid of the point and a distraction to the real issue at hand.
I don't not believe Ron Paul is right on every single issue, I'm pro-choice and I think we the media drills him with the same-ole' "So you would support heroin legalization?" he needs to make it clear that personally he is not in favor of legalizing heroin but due to his straight constitutionalism that it would be against his character of defending ALL liberties, whether harmful of not, to say just one should stay illegal at the federal level. I feel what he wants is for the states to decide (AND i'm pretty damn sure not one state would even dream of legalizing heroin) so I believe the point is moot.
I don't not believe Ron Paul is right on every single issue, I'm pro-choice and I think we the media drills him with the same-ole' "So you would support heroin legalization?" he needs to make it clear that personally he is not in favor of legalizing heroin but due to his straight constitutionalism that it would be against his character of defending ALL liberties, whether harmful of not, to say just one should stay illegal at the federal level. I feel what he wants is for the states to decide (AND i'm pretty damn sure not one state would even dream of legalizing heroin) so I believe the point is moot.
The only problem with this statistic is that a person could turn it around on you and say "well alcohol is legal and widely used so therefore if heroin is legal it's numbers will soar" Of course that would be an idiotic statement but I can see someone like Bill O'reilly saying that. haha
londonfog
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got link for those numbers...we like links...and also would those numbers change if we made heroin legal and more obtainable????
beardo
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Is their no heroin now available at collage parties for her to try?
londonfog
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at least you didn't try to defend the use of heroin like these others...I do believe that our government must make some harmful drugs illegal..Thats why they have them categorize ...Weed should not be one of them for it does not harm you ...never heard anyone dieing from weed, but herion, crack, and shit like that does nothing but hurt..but hey thats me
londonfog
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It would be a better chance if it was legal...
jdro
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Im not justifying heroin use. I believe in freedom and if someone wants to do heroin fuck it let em its their damn choice. Myself, I will never. Legal or not. The other thing about heroin is that most deaths come from shit that is not made right or fake and being sold as heroin. If it was controlled that would limit many deaths, as well as giving people addicted a chance to get clean by not incarcerating them and making the problem worse and giving them the chance at rehabs. If you know that marijuana is not bad for us then why does the government have it listed schedule 1 no medical value, why do you buy into the governments propaganda?
"never heard anyone dieing from weed, but herion, crack, and shit like that does nothing but hurt..but hey thats me"
You know that there is a ton of people who say marihuana is just as bad as heroin right? You know that there is people who say that if marijuana wasnt around less people would use heroin and crack because marijuana is the gateway drug right? You know that by making these things illegal you are losing your freedoms as a human being in this country. We should have our own right to do what we want with our lives as long as it does not hurt any other person. I agree that heroin and crack are not good, but I dont agree in big brother telling us what we can and cannot put in our bodies. The government even has made raw milk illegal to sell in the store. It is a disgrace that they can make something natural that has been used for hundreds of years illegal. Where I live, its easier for a 15 year old kid to get heroin than it is a pack of ciggarettes. Why do you think that is??
I pulled those numbers from google, which came from here-
http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/drugmort.htm
Mr Neutron
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LOL... No, you are... or don't you even remember what you said about making all man made drugs that have no medical benefit illegal?
londonfog
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I also stated it should be illegal or regulated...alcohol--regulated...heroin--illegal
sometimes you have to read the whole thread before you jump in ..I understand your hatred of reading, but you must if you want to understand the full conversation...post #2478
Mr Neutron
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Post #2512: "You can't promote the "general welfare" of the people if you start to promoting the legal sell of man-made drugs that have no medical benefits, but in fact can kill your ass and fuck up your life...hey everybody lets do some crack and heroin they say it can cure your problems..NOT"
So what is it? Illegal or regulated? I know it's hard to use that grey matter for something else besides regurgitating all of that socialist crap that you've been brainwashed with, but you should try logical thinking sometime. BTW, my reading skills are fine, you might want to look into some basic english classes though. Don't worry, I won't point out your errors, lest you become a whiny, crying little puss bag like Dan Kone.
beardo
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I'm pretty sure that kids can get illegal drugs easier than the legal ones like alcohol a lot of times. I would also argue that their a lot of drugs legally available with worse side effects than heroin especially if you count pescription medications, I would argue that when heroin used to be legal and you could buy it from Sears it was not the major problem it is today.
jdro
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beardo hit the nail on the head with that one. I mean how about oxycontin. I see that ruining the lives of way more people than ANY other drug. Its an epidemic far worse than crack or heroin.