hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Guess il wait to se how my chiller comes and plan from there thanks to both of you
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dbkick
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the manual will tell you just to flush it every now and then, mine (1/2 hp) activeaqua even says a flushing agent is optional. gonna finish install tomorrow if it kills me....oh wait theres the day job to survive too.
jdmcwestevo
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i am planning on getting a chiller for my res in that warehouse i had pictures of because it has a tin roof so it gets HOT during the day and my res is pretty warm. plus my a/c condensers are in the same room and all my lights vent there too so its like 110 degrees in there horrible. what chiller do you have im interested to hear what you think of them if you guys need any equipment i can hook you up on pricing as well.
hellraizer30
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Mine i ordered is the same one you have lol
drgreentm
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i have seen this done before by a friend of mine and he was not impressed, it really took away from the ability of cooling warmer res's sufficiently, at least i think he hooked it up the same way as you are explaining, using the RO water and chilling it then running it through copper coiling in the res, basically chilling the copper line as if you where constantly dropping frozen water bottles in the res, correct? it is a great idea but i just dont believe it could take 55 gal at 80-85F and drop it down to 65-70 which would be the only reason i would want to spend that kinda cash on a unit anyway.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Im hoping to drop it from 73 to 65
jdmcwestevo
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i would imagine the issue would be in the power of the chiller. it works like an air conditioner does. an a/c can only cool air in a room a difference of 20 degrees so for example if the ambient is 80 the air out of the a/c will be 60. the chiller is similar with water so say the chiller water is 60 degrees and the nutes are 80. the copper coil will have a super high temp transfer rate, but depending upon the radiant heat that will heat up the nutes in the first place you can only cool it so much. it is definately more effective to run the nutes straight through the chiller, BUT im saying that its better for the longevity of your equipment to use a copper coil. my friend that is doing that method has pretty powerful chillers so if the coil is 50 degrees its going to drop those nutes down a lot more than if it was 60 or so.
jdmcwestevo
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and also i think a chiller can only drop temp by 10 degrees or so depending on how many hp it is so if you wanted to drop 20 degrees thats an expensive chiller lol
dbkick
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it will do that easily I'd say, not a bad chiller, I got mine used. had about 8 hours on it and came with a 1000 gph pump, they say it will chill down to 39 degrees, I easily went 62 degrees but was using a igloo cooler as a res.
collective gardener
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HwllRaizer,
Hey, bro...forget the copper coil deal with the chiller. You will lose a ton of efficiency that way. Just hook it up like you were planning. The only time they really build up salts in when you remove them from service without first flushing it with pure RO water. Just for shits, we would flush ours once per week. Really tough to do...put inlet hose into bucket of RO water....well, that's it.
I think you're going to dig the chiller. Every problem I've ever had with a hydro settup (besides clogs), could be attributed to warm water. My grow before this one was 13 k and 100% aeroponics. We made 4 insulated res's by placing a 30 gallon drum inside a 55 gallon drum and using 2 part pour foam in the gap between them. This cut the chiller's work load by half. Just a thought. Your grow looks really good. I take it you're not from Cali? Where are you from and what is the market like there?.
Hey, bro...forget the copper coil deal with the chiller. You will lose a ton of efficiency that way. Just hook it up like you were planning. The only time they really build up salts in when you remove them from service without first flushing it with pure RO water. Just for shits, we would flush ours once per week. Really tough to do...put inlet hose into bucket of RO water....well, that's it.
I think you're going to dig the chiller. Every problem I've ever had with a hydro settup (besides clogs), could be attributed to warm water. My grow before this one was 13 k and 100% aeroponics. We made 4 insulated res's by placing a 30 gallon drum inside a 55 gallon drum and using 2 part pour foam in the gap between them. This cut the chiller's work load by half. Just a thought. Your grow looks really good. I take it you're not from Cali? Where are you from and what is the market like there?.
I use couple large igloo marine coolers in veg and drop 2liter frozen water bottles. It stays cold. Very cold.
researchkitty
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Just use a wort chiller for the rez.
http://www.amazon.com/Delux-Copper-Immersion-Wort-Chiller/dp/B000F74400
That's a link to an expensive one. They can be had elsewhere (anywhere) for around $50.
Dont chill it below 58(f). If you do, your roots wont like to drink. (This is also a common ebb & grow bucket problem if buckets are on a cold floor in winter time, baaad!)
http://www.amazon.com/Delux-Copper-Immersion-Wort-Chiller/dp/B000F74400
That's a link to an expensive one. They can be had elsewhere (anywhere) for around $50.
Dont chill it below 58(f). If you do, your roots wont like to drink. (This is also a common ebb & grow bucket problem if buckets are on a cold floor in winter time, baaad!)
drgreentm
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looks good db, i like the black lid mine came with a almost clear/white lid.
dbkick
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thanks man, was a pretty productive evening that may or may not be over, heres what its looking like now.....and before you say "well hey that chiller is kinda counter productive since it does blow hot air out the back and its pointed at the res" , I work at a hvac sheetmetal shop and plan to build a fitting that will be attached to a flex and a shitty little fan helping to suck the air out, although I think it would probably chill ok like it is I'll insulate the res a little with some southern engineering type deal for the time being.
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dbkick
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thanks for the info mojo, I've moved away from igloos in flower but still keep one in veg, I've got a water pump in there cycled on for 30 seconds or so then off for 4-5 minutes since the roots do hang into the nutrient solution , but the water pump heats it a little(a lot if not cycled) I've kept temps down to 74 being the highest, there was a while I wasn't letting it get much past 70 and I'd throw in a fresh blue ice but now I don't even so that. temp right now is 71 but I started using bennies in veg so temps aren't really an issue.Igloo coolers do rule though!
hellraizer30
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nice DB very nice, I want black lids and those fitting also lol
Osburn
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Here's my Train Wreck dominant phenos of TGA Subcool's Qrazy Train at 2 weeks into flower. I have only done DWC in intake/exhaust rooms in the past. This is my first ebb and gro sealed room. Had to iron out a lot of issues and ran out of money before I could perfect the environment, but my fully legal plants look almost as good as my DWC plants used to look and I have to do a fraction of the manual labor to keep the room going, which is really important to me now that I'm a cripple. Doing Lucas Formula w/Flora Series at full strength five times a day for a half hour when the lights are on. A chiller is definitely on my shopping list. I love how the pots look when the water is under seventy degrees. You can tell they just love it. 
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hellraizer30
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you plan on fliping them soon cus thats going to be godzila