snew
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So what do you do about that?
Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends
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newworldicon
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How is it LED then?, I'm curious to hear that...?
Tricks
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Well, if the spectrum is off at places, its a cheap light. Might not even use all the same leds. Not familiar with BS brand other then seeing a grow or 2 on here with mixed results..
@Harrekin is right, you can use supplemental or better led lights. He also raises a legit question about your coverage.
snew
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I have 6 plants under 2 lights. Did the best I could find for the money. I don't know what you mean about "question about you coverage"? 2 Blackstar 240's with 6 plants. It is what was recommended.
Tricks
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Your lights might not be enough to cover 6 plants. Try flowering 2 under each light or add 1 more to cover the other 2.
snew
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If the middle flowered and the outside didn't I would see that as a reasonable explanation but its the middle and one on the end but not the other that is flowering. None of the Jilly Bean under the other light are flowering. They have become to large for the LED at this point but I cant see that it will make a difference by cutting them back. There are branches that are right against the light and they are not flowering. Both lights are on the same timer by the way. I'll be pulling the 2 flowering plants in about 2 weeks so there will only be 4 under the light then. The plan was to be moving all new plants in 2-3 weeks but it may just be maintaining until it cools off and the HPS can come out in September-October.
They use ~140w (some people claim their killowatt meter says less) to my knowledge, and I would compare them to a 250w hps in the right hands. I believe good LED panels can compete with half the wattage of HPS, I'm not sure if Blackstar is that good but its damned close enough if not
*I still think the issue cant be the light if some of the plants are perfectly fine. Most likely those plants just suffered some kind of undue stress, or had a bad gene (such as a hermie would). Maybe they really didn't like that extra heat, or something else got to them.
Bad Karma
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So... who are you talking to?
Nobody mentioned anything about a 250W HPS comparison.
The actual wattage of his Blackstars and expectations from them were already discussed pages back.
You're talking to yourself on the internet, again.
curly604
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hahahaha get him karma , although i do believe he was trying to defend leds which is a big switch from some of his old posts i think we will see this one turn to the dark side soon enough buhahahahahahaha......... i told everyone we have cookies right?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Chocolate one ?
Bad Karma
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I'm seriously starting to believe it's one of the panels.
Let me run my scenario by you and see if it's the case or not.
So you have 6 plants lined up under the 2 lights.
Now you said none of the Jillybean's have flowered and that only 2 of the 3 Blue Cheese's under the other panel were flowering.
Let me take a guess and say that the single Blue Cheese that didn't flower was in between the 2 panels (so it was exposed to both lights) and not on one of the far ends, am I right?
If I am, I hate to say it, but it would seem their is something wrong with the panel over the Jillybean's.
At this point, everything else has been ruled out in my mind (based on the presented evidence).
Because if it was stress, the other 2 Blue Cheese's should have taken the hit too, but for some reason didn't and have flowered.
You've got one good panel and one bad panel, but you should still be under warranty though (1 year).
When you get in touch with Gotham Hydro about replacing the panel, make sure you let it be known that you are actively updating other growers about your Blackstar experience via this thread.
It should help keep them from giving you any shit about a replacement (not saying they will, but just in case they do).
Good luck.
curly604
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hell ya brotha man , lol im gonna start a new thread " i will send a cookie to anyone who changes from hps to led"
Jah Leon
Member
I have not tested the 3watt Leds but have tested some experimental leds. A company in Europe allows you to design custom leds. One of his creations was a blue led light with IR and UV-A. This light changed my mind on leds because it seemed the IR and UV A range actually increased the plant vitality. It saved a strain that I had the year before. It seems to bring out the dominant genes in the plant.
Previously the plants grown under leds even in university reports received to weak energy penetration and lacked other elements for them to really productive in the generative life cycle of various plants. It always worked good in combination and in vegetative growth. Constant studies and upgrades make it more and more interesting.
Personally I think leds is the future especially in combination with light sources like plasma lights. The combination would actually create perfect plants in morphology and production.
I will post some other links for further reading as well. If any got some nice links please share....
Bless; love and gratitude
Previously the plants grown under leds even in university reports received to weak energy penetration and lacked other elements for them to really productive in the generative life cycle of various plants. It always worked good in combination and in vegetative growth. Constant studies and upgrades make it more and more interesting.
Personally I think leds is the future especially in combination with light sources like plasma lights. The combination would actually create perfect plants in morphology and production.
I will post some other links for further reading as well. If any got some nice links please share....
Bless; love and gratitude
RawBudzski
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I would just like to chime in here, not knowing too much about whats been said the last 70 pages.. my experience with growing & in life has led* me to believe (pun intended)..that LEDs are for your average toddler growing in their Cubbies.. & should never disgrace any respectable size grow room with its/their presence.
curly604
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i dont know man you would and will be surprised. prices will drop technologies will advance and soon people will be scratching there heads like why oh why would i use this 30 year old technology heat lamp when i can get the same or better results with these brand new light technologies with less heat less power and competitive pricing.
RawBudzski
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Yessir you are true. Good thing im in my early twenties.. by the time im a vet grower in my 30s or 40s im sure ill have moved onto something better.. I hope!
curly604
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in my opinion demand in the market once people can be reached an told about the obvious advantages of the right kind of led will push the technology forward very fast. i even know a few old school growers that have made the switch for bigger gardens and are very happy with the results so far, i used to use hps but im tired of having to watch my grow all the time i dont like leaving hot ass fire starters in my house when im not around, i like to travel and shit and with leds and my dwc setup i could leave for a week or even more at a time and not really worry to much i would not recomend that with a hps haha.