Cloning Gel?

Waiakeauka

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Does cloning gel have an expiration date? On average about how many clones can you make out of a 60ml or 100ml bottle? Is all the brands the same or is some better then others?


Mahalo and Aloha,
Waiakeauka
 

goonies

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On average about how many clones can you make out of a 60ml or 100ml bottle? 100s you only use a tiny bit per clone
 

cruzer101

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yeah, the stuff lasts forever, The only one I had trouble with was Olivia's cloning gel. That needs to be refrigerated after opening and I didn't see that. My favorite is clonex.
 

Prefontaine

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Does cloning gel have an expiration date? On average about how many clones can you make out of a 60ml or 100ml bottle? Is all the brands the same or is some better then others?


Mahalo and Aloha,
Waiakeauka
cloning gel, rooting hormone all unnecessary, only increases rate of new root growth and ups your percentage of succesful clones. personally I dont like to use it
 

namtih024

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i had clonex for a while and never ran out, stuff dried out in storage before i could use it all. after that i tossed cloning gel to the side and went with aeroponic cloning, roots in half the time without rooting hormones. it is easier than you would think and has better results. that said, you dont need cloning gel even for rockwool or peat pellets, just keep them warm and they root in about the same time as with gel
 

namtih024

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are you sure about that?
if your referring to me, i speak only from experience, this is what happened to me, for some reason your results may differ from mine, but my past experiences dictate my future judgement and actions. so for me and how i grow Yes Im Sure.
 

MrStickyScissors

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if your referring to me, i speak only from experience, this is what happened to me, for some reason your results may differ from mine, but my past experiences dictate my future judgement and actions. so for me and how i grow Yes Im Sure.
is that a plnt you grew in your avatar? is that in a green house. i like i like
 

namtih024

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ya thats the first legal plant i grew, a hash plant from bc bud company, its actually in a converted bedroom, 10x12
 

RetiredToker76

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if your referring to me, i speak only from experience, this is what happened to me, for some reason your results may differ from mine, but my past experiences dictate my future judgement and actions. so for me and how i grow Yes Im Sure.
Couple questions...

You say warm do you mean the water of your aeroponics or the temps in the grow room, and what is warm above 80 f?

Also, what Ph do you use. I've read 5.8 just about everywhere (including here and several
grow books) but have been told by several really old guys who have grown 40 years that they aeroclone
at 6.5 - 7 for their water.

I have been doing aero-cloning for 2 years and have used both Olivia's and Clonex. I think that using the Gel's in the aerocloner probably slowed the root growth more than anything, I noticed a 'jello like buildup' exactly where I put a thin coat of Gel for all my attempts. My first attempt I had 40% strike rate after 4 weeks. Second - fifth attempt, I had 60% strike rates, again after 4 weeks, with one where I had Ph problems and lost all 12 clones.

It wasn't until last month I heard to not use any Gel or powder in an aerocloner. I was told that best result is just a tiny bit of Superthrive in the water.

I'm really stuck on this Ph thing though. I always ran 5.8 for the cloner and am thinking about doing both no-gel and higher Ph for my next go, but I don't want to change too many variables at once.
 

RetiredToker76

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The real bitch is, once I have roots I have no problems, but getting them to strike in the first place has been very 'hit and miss.'
 

MrStickyScissors

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Couple questions...

You say warm do you mean the water of your aeroponics or the temps in the grow room, and what is warm above 80 f?

Also, what Ph do you use. I've read 5.8 just about everywhere (including here and several
grow books) but have been told by several really old guys who have grown 40 years that they aeroclone
at 6.5 - 7 for their water.

I have been doing aero-cloning for 2 years and have used both Olivia's and Clonex. I think that using the Gel's in the aerocloner probably slowed the root growth more than anything, I noticed a 'jello like buildup' exactly where I put a thin coat of Gel for all my attempts. My first attempt I had 40% strike rate after 4 weeks. Second - fifth attempt, I had 60% strike rates, again after 4 weeks, with one where I had Ph problems and lost all 12 clones.

It wasn't until last month I heard to not use any Gel or powder in an aerocloner. I was told that best result is just a tiny bit of Superthrive in the water.

I'm really stuck on this Ph thing though. I always ran 5.8 for the cloner and am thinking about doing both no-gel and higher Ph for my next go, but I don't want to change too many variables at once.
damn 4 weeks? 7 to 10 days with a 100% with the gel and a rapid rooter
 

RetiredToker76

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damn 4 weeks? 7 to 10 days with a 100% with the gel and a rapid rooter
Ya I know I've been doing something wrong for a while, I just don't like asking questions, but this one has stumped me and I don't think the info I've gotten on aerocloning has been all that good in the past.
 

MrStickyScissors

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Ya I know I've been doing something wrong for a while, I just don't like asking questions, but this one has stumped me and I don't think the info I've gotten on aerocloning has been all that good in the past.
well hopfully you can get the info you need from this thread. after a month they look pretty tore up huh?
 

RetiredToker76

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Surprisingly the ones that do root barely yellow, the rest end up looking like hell. I did have one that had a single lonely root coming off the stem and all it's leaves but 1 had yellowed and fallen off when the root finally appeared. I put it in my usual organic mix and she ended up yielding 2oz under a 250watt HPS. I would however really like to have 3 - 4 month grow instead of a 5 - 6 month grow, cloning and recuperation are taking up nearly 50% of my grow time.
 
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