Vote ron paul!!!!

[UncleBuck]

How can Obama lauph it up on the golf course and then martha's vineyard when so many americans are dieing, suffering, living in poverty, seperated from thier families all over the world? How much louder of a FUCK YOU do his actions need to be, before you finally realize he doesn't give a Fuck about YOU? If he told you the sun is going to rise in the west tommorrow, you would believe him. don't lie how could you tell anyway with your head up his ass

i don't believe a thing obama says.

for example, "i will veto any bill that does not have a public option", or "i believe marriage is one man and one woman".

i am not so naive that i think politicians do not make calculated political moves. i would too if i were seeking office.

i do take issue with you not admitting that you got caught in a lie. your revisionist history has been debunked. there is video of shrub playing golf nearly a full year after 9/11 where he references a current event.

are you so stubborn that you cannot simply admit that you got it wrong?

 

[PushForKush]

i honestly don't believe Obama's a bad person, and is only doing things for himself, but i do believe that this just isn't the job for him. Ron Paul is literally what we NEED. its SO SIMPLE! every video i watch of his speeches, half of what he says is just common sense that would automatically be for the better.

other candidates act like the gov. is the top of the chart, and that's it... Ron Paul knows that the point of it all isn't to make the govt happy and rich, he knows its all about freedom. its all about what's good for EVERYONE, he is the key to happiness.

 

[UncleBuck]

i honestly don't believe Obama's a bad person, and is only doing things for himself, but i do believe that this just isn't the job for him. Ron Paul is literally what we NEED. its SO SIMPLE! every video i watch of his speeches, half of what he says is just common sense that would automatically be for the better.

other candidates act like the gov. is the top of the chart, and that's it... Ron Paul knows that the point of it all isn't to make the govt happy and rich, he knows its all about freedom. its all about what's good for EVERYONE, he is the key to happiness.

how does a constitutional amendment telling my friends they can't marry help everyone?

how does abolishing the civil rights act help everyone?

you never responded to my question about whether or not infertile couples should be allowed to marry.

 

[dukeanthony]

you never responded to my question about whether or not infertile couples should be allowed to marry.

never will.
unless they go all biblical on ya

 

[Straight Sativa]

So who are you voting for then if I may ask, UncleBuck? you don't like obama and you don't like Ron Paul..the only other people left are corperate whores, religious nuts, far right extremists and represent the status quo.

 

[UncleBuck]

never will.
unless they go all biblical on ya

some people are just not capable of following their opinions to a logical conclusion. the cognitive dissonance is just too much.

hell, buttmunchbox is trying to tell me that shrub still never played golf after 9/11 and that it is a vast media conspiracy to blame rather than accept the cognitive dissonance of being wrong.

 

[UncleBuck]

So who are you voting for then if I may ask, UncleBuck? you don't like obama and you don't like Ron Paul..the only other people left are corperate whores, religious nuts, far right extremists and represent the status quo.

can you not fucking read?

i have stated several times in this thread that i will be voting for obama again. he has put thousands of dollars in my pockets through tax breaks and although i did not like his health care bill (it was originally a heritage foundation idea, ron paul likes the heritage foundation), it has allowed my wife to finally purchase health insurance despite her pre-existing condition.

 

[PushForKush]

how does a constitutional amendment telling my friends they can't marry help everyone?

how does abolishing the civil rights act help everyone?

you never responded to my question about whether or not infertile couples should be allowed to marry.

honestly i don't know how to respond to gay marriage, the way i see it, its not right. marriage is something in its own, and as ron paul says, that should be dealt with religiously.

as he also says, racial segrogation was created by gov laws.. its not like cause he wouldnt of voted for the civil rights act means he's racist... he's obviously not.

things seem to fall in place on their own, and the more laws and acts we have the more out of control it gets. people have the right to believe what they want, and also as Paul says people who would discriminate and put signs up in this day and age arent going to get any customers... u'd have to be stupid to do it.

 

[Straight Sativa]

can you not fucking read?

i have stated several times in this thread that i will be voting for obama again. he has put thousands of dollars in my pockets through tax breaks and although i did not like his health care bill (it was originally a heritage foundation idea, ron paul likes the heritage foundation), it has allowed my wife to finally purchase health insurance despite her pre-existing condition.

You need to get off your fucking throne, big guy. You just said you don't believe anything Obama says..and from what I have understood from your posts, you also do not believe anything RP says; pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

 

[UncleBuck]

honestly i don't know how to respond to gay marriage, the way i see it, its not right.

why is it not right?

these people waited over 60 years to get married. is their love inferior to the people who go to vegas for quickie weddings?

as he also says, racial segrogation was created by gov laws.. its not like cause he wouldnt of voted for the civil rights act means he's racist... he's obviously not.

racial segregation was perpetuated by LOCAL laws, like jim crow laws. ron paul advocates for laws to be decided at the most local level possible.

the official practice was ended by a FEDERAL law. ron paul advocates against this law.

what you just recited is a tired old talking point.

and i never said he was racist for opposing the federal government from stepping in to tell people to stop practicing such ugly racism. i said he was racist for the writings in his newsletter which he used to defend before he started to deny (flip-flopping again)

things seem to fall in place on their own, and the more laws and acts we have the more out of control it gets. people have the right to believe what they want, and also as Paul says people who would discriminate and put signs up in this day and age arent going to get any customers... u'd have to be stupid to do it.

i don't know, empirical evidence disproves your assertion that discriminatory businesses would lose all customers.

plenty of establishments did just fine with one of these in the window.

 

[dukeanthony]

honestly i don't know how to respond to gay marriage, the way i see it, its not right. marriage is something in its own, and as ron paul says, that should be dealt with religiously.

as he also says, racial segrogation was created by gov laws.. its not like cause he wouldnt of voted for the civil rights act means he's racist... he's obviously not.

.

Whaaaaaat?

 

[UncleBuck]

You need to get off your fucking throne, big guy. You just said you don't believe anything Obama says..and from what I have understood from your posts, you also do not believe anything RP says; pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

you haven't understood much, champ.

you have not diagnosed the case correctly, but what exactly would be hypocritical about not believing what person A and person B say? c'mon now, i know you are smart enough to figure out an answer here

if i thought both jeff and cindy were full of crap, what exactly would be hypocritical about that?

 

[PushForKush]

i don't know, empirical evidence disproves your assertion that discriminatory businesses would lose all customers.

plenty of establishments did just fine with one of these in the window.

yeah back when racism was normal.... we've come a long way now..

the main reason why i would love to see him elected, is because he's all about freedom. people have to make their own choices, and if they decide to put a sign up that says "No Uncle Bucks Aloud" then that's too bad for them. if a racist owns a bar, and is not aloud to say "no blacks aloud" , its not like he's gonna treat the black guy that walks in with respect anyway...... its just stupid,

just because he advocates for local laws doesnt mean he's happy with the choices they made in the past. or w.e. local laws make more sense, so that they can be adjusted to suit wherever they're at best.

vice versa

the way i see it... racists will be racist, no matter what you do... can't control em, just like u can't control the depressed guy from trying crack, legal or not.

 

[beardo]

can you not fucking read?

i have stated several times in this thread that i will be voting for obama again. he has put thousands of dollars in my pockets through tax breaks and although i did not like his health care bill (it was originally a heritage foundation idea, ron paul likes the heritage foundation), it has allowed my wife to finally purchase health insurance despite her pre-existing condition.

So he bought your vote- at least you.re honest. Unlike many I would be willing for something bad for me for the eventual greater good. I would support spending and job cuts that would hurt me because I agree with the idea of freedom

 

[UncleBuck]

yeah back when racism was normal.... we've come a long way now..

have we now?

the whole country, even conservative strongholds like utah went more blue in 2008 than in 2004.

but not the south for some reason. they went redder. explanation, please?

arizona went more red because their senator was running, btw.

the main reason why i would love to see him elected, is because he's all about freedom. people have to make their own choices, and if they decide to put a sign up that says "No Uncle Bucks Aloud" then that's too bad for them. if a racist owns a bar, and is not aloud to say "no blacks aloud" , its not like he's gonna treat the black guy that walks in with respect anyway...... its just stupid,

so, you are saying tha the right of the bigot trumps the right of others not to be harmed by their bigotry? because that was the consequence of segregation, people were harmed. they were often only able to access inferior products, reduction of choices in service, etc.

hence this...

they stopped publishing this after civil rights were passed into law.

the way i see it... racists will be racist, no matter what you do... can't control em, just like u can't control the depressed guy from trying crack, legal or not.

people still murder people even though there are laws against it, so should we also get rid of murder laws and make murder legal?

think about what you say, follow it to a logical conclusion.

 

[UncleBuck]

So he bought your vote- at least you.re honest. Unlike many I would be willing for something bad for me for the eventual greater good. I would support spending and job cuts that would hurt me because I agree with the idea of freedom

he did not buy my vote so much as the asshats on the right simply have NO CHANCE at getting my vote with their anti-gay, anti-american rhetoric.

 

[PushForKush]

have we now?

the whole country, even conservative strongholds like utah went more blue in 2008 than in 2004.

but not the south for some reason. they went redder. explanation, please?

arizona went more red because their senator was running, btw.



so, you are saying tha the right of the bigot trumps the right of others not to be harmed by their bigotry? because that was the consequence of segregation, people were harmed. they were often only able to access inferior products, reduction of choices in service, etc.

hence this...

they stopped publishing this after civil rights were passed into law.



people still murder people even though there are laws against it, so should we also get rid of murder laws and make murder legal?

think about what you say, follow it to a logical conclusion.

okay lets make everything that could be dangerous to us illegal. lets make walking in alleys at night illegal. lets make using power tools illegal, since we need the government to guide us as to what can hurt us. if you want to be treated like a baby its up to you.

 

[UncleBuck]

okay lets make everything that could be dangerous to us illegal. lets make walking in alleys at night illegal. lets make using power tools illegal, since we need the government to guide us as to what can hurt us. if you want to be treated like a baby its up to you.

wanting to see someone prosecuted for murdering my family member does not entail that i want to see power tools outlawed.

you have a rather simplistic way of viewing things.

 

[Straight Sativa]

you haven't understood much, champ.

you have not diagnosed the case correctly, but what exactly would be hypocritical about not believing what person A and person B say? c'mon now, i know you are smart enough to figure out an answer here

if i thought both jeff and cindy were full of crap, what exactly would be hypocritical about that?

I understand why you are voting for Obama becuase of your wife and her insurence situation, and I respect that. So being as we are two differnet people in two different situations with different circumstances, maybe we can agree to disagree. Ron Paul's policies would work for me, maybe not so much for you, idk. But I don't and believe me I won't go around sabotaging Obama threads...

BTW I voted for obama in 08', and consider myself a moderate liberal. Not that it's of concern just lettin ya know where I'm coming from. ...

 

[PushForKush]

wanting to see someone prosecuted for murdering my family member does not entail that i want to see power tools outlawed.

you have a rather simplistic way of viewing things.

pfft. you make things too complicated.... its fucking simple. of course no one would want murder to be legal, but that's such a big extent.

what if something happend and there was no government to protect us? would you start murdering people? would you suddenly turn racist and put signs on your house? sure, we need the government for protection and for many different things, but there are so many things that are unnecessary. sometimes to have something RIGHT, you have to bring along something WRONG with it.

i would much rather have no gov. at all than one that puts so many restrictions that i cant express the way i feel.