kriznarf
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Hard to say at this point. But I'll likely lay the screen down and veg until she has a couple tips an inch or so through. My estimate would be a total veg time of 25-30 days.
SCOTTYBALLS Tribute Grow! Pineapple Express 400w Scrog Waterfarm
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widowmaker31
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looking good......I got some pineapple express rockin as well.....sure smells good.....I'm on Day 24 - I have 3 going in 5gal buckets - going to put them on the flower side of my tent this week and run my Blue Diamond MH light at 500watt untill next week when I plan on switching to 12/12 with CO2 enrichment during the (day hours) and then running the Red Diamond HPS - starting it off at 500watt then 750, and then finally at 1,000watt. I then have 2 WW and 1 Pineapple Express in my grow cabinet that I will start flower on as well next week and only have a 175 to 250watt of HPS on them - but will enrich with CO2.
we are pretty close in the grow - check out my pineapple in the pics - it was really stunted as I stressed the shit out of it when it was really young...lol but it bounced back and let me tell you...it's tough as nails! It's a G13 Labs strain, and I got a small little net to put inside the cabinet to sorta scrog it as well.
subbed for this grow as well - keep us posted - What are your REZ and Ambient Air Temps? I keep my rez at 67 to 69 degrees and Air Temps at 70......
we are pretty close in the grow - check out my pineapple in the pics - it was really stunted as I stressed the shit out of it when it was really young...lol but it bounced back and let me tell you...it's tough as nails! It's a G13 Labs strain, and I got a small little net to put inside the cabinet to sorta scrog it as well.
subbed for this grow as well - keep us posted - What are your REZ and Ambient Air Temps? I keep my rez at 67 to 69 degrees and Air Temps at 70......
kriznarf
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Thanks for the kind words. I'm super excited about this grow. Checked out your journal as well. Looking awesome. Can't wait to see how those plants do under all that light. Def subbed up.
I haven't checked my reservoir temps, actually. That's something I should probably look into. My ambient air temps fluctuate between 72-85 F. Perhaps a little hotter than I'd like, but aside from one harrowing day early on (temps ran up to 100 due to some obstructed ventilation,) she seems to be growing at a fine pace and looking pretty healthy.
I've also started to slowly dial the timing back. Working my way from a 20/4 schedule to an 18/6 schedule.
widowmaker31
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I have been running 20/4 and it has in my opinion really allowed the plants to work harder - since I have created ideal conditions - rez temps at about 66-69f and Air Temp at about 70....they are showing the love back at me 
! But to each is own....I am pretty meticulous but I have such a passion i didn't know existed until i started growing myself! Growing from seed and watching it throughout it's life is just amazing.....
looking good - keep up the good work!
widow
! But to each is own....I am pretty meticulous but I have such a passion i didn't know existed until i started growing myself! Growing from seed and watching it throughout it's life is just amazing.....looking good - keep up the good work!
widow
Dr.Amber Trichome
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hey kriznarf.wow just found you. good luck with this waterfarm grow. its going to be a wonderful journey. pacific northwest..hahaha. me too! subbed for the ride! everything looks absoluetly perfecto!
kriznarf
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Cheers! I know that you're super active in this community (I peek in on your summer grow from time to time) and it's great to have someone as involved as yourself along for the ride.
ironheadxl
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dude I am so in. Scottyballs is a fuckin' hero imho an inspired grow he had ay? I have a PE 3.5 weeks from seed my first hydro and it is because of the Man! will be a watchin' over here.
kriznarf
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Awesome! I've wanted to see a Scotty grow with an LED. Doesn't seem like many LED growers scrog, or perhaps I just haven't seen the right threads. I'll have to check that out when you start up.looking great, definitely off to an excellent start! subbed cause I'm going to do the same strain in a cab similar in size to scottyballz but with a blackstar 240 watt from veg to flower and see what I yield
Just saw your speaker box! Very cool. I love micro/stealth grows. Can't wait to see how that goes.
kriznarf
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Day:20
PPM:485
Upped the nutes to 495 PPM yesterday. The res showed 485 PPM this afternoon so I think I'm in a good place. She's starting to drink more and more water. One thing that kind of blows me away is how little stretch I'm seeing. The fan leaves are getting big, but I'd say the whole plant is only four, maybe five inches tall. You may be able to tell from the pics. It's interesting comparing my own pics to Scotty's from the same period. His plant was growing faster, but seemed to have a more indica dominant phenotype. I'm not saying that my PE is a sativa dom, just that it doesn't look quite as indica heavy as Scotty's.
I'm Likely going to start a little LST'ing in the next couple days. I'll be sure to take pics when I do. At this rate, I probably won't lay the screen down for another five to seven days and likely won't be going 12/12 until day 35 or so.
PPM:485
Upped the nutes to 495 PPM yesterday. The res showed 485 PPM this afternoon so I think I'm in a good place. She's starting to drink more and more water. One thing that kind of blows me away is how little stretch I'm seeing. The fan leaves are getting big, but I'd say the whole plant is only four, maybe five inches tall. You may be able to tell from the pics. It's interesting comparing my own pics to Scotty's from the same period. His plant was growing faster, but seemed to have a more indica dominant phenotype. I'm not saying that my PE is a sativa dom, just that it doesn't look quite as indica heavy as Scotty's.
I'm Likely going to start a little LST'ing in the next couple days. I'll be sure to take pics when I do. At this rate, I probably won't lay the screen down for another five to seven days and likely won't be going 12/12 until day 35 or so.
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she's looking great! I wouldn't be worried about the slower growth compared to scottyballz. she may be smaller but she is looking HEALTHY! i'm sure growth will explode soon..
thanks man! i've seen a few LED grows using scrog and the results are just outstanding! granted these were autoflowers in soil that were scrogged, but nonethless, yield was 2 oz per plant in 1 gallon pots.. thats pretty good for auto's in that pot size. crystal formation was beyond what anyone thought as that extra UV from the blackstar is thought to aid in the crystal production.
i'm not trying to be another LED freak but the results I've seen with the blackstar have all been beyond expectations.. I know there are better lights out that "use" more watts than the blackstar but they are also twice the price..there was a journal on another forum where they grew 2 plants side by side.. one with a $300 blackstar 240 watt and a $600 240 watt LED (brand escapes my memory but very well known).. what they found was that the blackstar uses 135 watts of power and the other was using the full 240 watts. this raised some concerns but in the end, the difference in final product was not enough in my opinion to jusity the extra $300.. plus.. you pay for less electricity
kriznarf
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Yeah, I wasn't really worried about the slower growth. As pcn3rd pointed out, she's looking super healthy. I believe that I'm right on track. Can't wait to check her out when I get home every day.
kriznarf
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Day: 23
PPM: 570
PH: 7.4
I have to admit, I love update days! Today is something of a double edged sword. She's been looking quite healthy, however, she's also been a bit droopy. I made some changes to the setup yesterday. Cleaning out the pump column, air tubes, drip ring, etc. and re-centering the airstone. I also replaced the reservoir water completely, which I've been doing every four or five days. The fresh water was nuted to 595 PPM, so the fact that PPM is still declining a little while the water level continues to drop makes me think that I could go a little heavier with the nutes. The PH is slightly higher than I was hoping and I was wondering if this may be the reason behind the drooping, but it's not crazy high or anything at 7.4, I think. Any thoughts?
I accidently tore the aluminum foil covering during all of the above, and I may replace it, but for now I thought I'd leave it off and see if the increased airflow helps at all.
I also attempted a little LST testing, though she didn't seem to like the bending. For all the growth that I'm seeing, she's barely stretching. The main stalk is fairly thick and only about 5 to 6 inches high. So I may go without the LST. She is a stocky little indica.
Finally, I've started to contemplate putting down the scrog screen. I'm debating the height at this point (thinking about ten inches) and would appreciate any input.
Cheers!
PPM: 570
PH: 7.4
I have to admit, I love update days! Today is something of a double edged sword. She's been looking quite healthy, however, she's also been a bit droopy. I made some changes to the setup yesterday. Cleaning out the pump column, air tubes, drip ring, etc. and re-centering the airstone. I also replaced the reservoir water completely, which I've been doing every four or five days. The fresh water was nuted to 595 PPM, so the fact that PPM is still declining a little while the water level continues to drop makes me think that I could go a little heavier with the nutes. The PH is slightly higher than I was hoping and I was wondering if this may be the reason behind the drooping, but it's not crazy high or anything at 7.4, I think. Any thoughts?
I accidently tore the aluminum foil covering during all of the above, and I may replace it, but for now I thought I'd leave it off and see if the increased airflow helps at all.
I also attempted a little LST testing, though she didn't seem to like the bending. For all the growth that I'm seeing, she's barely stretching. The main stalk is fairly thick and only about 5 to 6 inches high. So I may go without the LST. She is a stocky little indica.
Finally, I've started to contemplate putting down the scrog screen. I'm debating the height at this point (thinking about ten inches) and would appreciate any input.
Cheers!
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kriznarf
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That could very likely be a result of the pH buffers in Flora Nova. I've read that when you get to about 900 PPM, the buffers do a good job of keeping the grower from having to worry about pH.
mr2shim
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Flora Nova has some really good buffers. When you get up past 900 ppm doesn't matter how high you go in ppm the pH after adding it to the water (I use 7.0) It keeps the pH around 5.5
Looking good, pretty short little guy.
I put my screen down when it was 7" tall. I measured the distance from the screen to the bucket yesterday and it's 5" Not sure how that happened but I don't think you need an entire foot of clearance if you can make a hose to connect to the jug so you don't have to try and maneuver a gallon jug under the screen.
