SCOTTYBALLS Tribute Grow! Pineapple Express 400w Scrog Waterfarm

Who is this Scottyballs you guys keep talking about lol... And thanks for the tribute Kriznarf Im glad to see so many more WF grows, seems to really have taken off since that old PE grow..
ill be checking in here and there let me know if you have any questions Kriznarf..

Fuzznutz said:

Kriz - Nice grow and sweet setup... Subbed!! Keep the updates coming.

I recently grabbed the same tent for my waterfarm grow as well. Moved from outdoors and going to keep it manageable. Have a few questions I'd like to PM you about internal setup (filter, fan, etc.).

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Thanks for subbing up, Fuzz! Just got back to your PM, but I wanted to add that I'm happy to answer any questions you might have within my journal, too. Could be that other people would find your questions helpful.

Let me know if you start a journal yourself. Sounds like we're going to have pretty similar setups when all is said and done.

SCOTTYBALLS said:

Who is this Scottyballs you guys keep talking about lol... And thanks for the tribute Kriznarf Im glad to see so many more WF grows, seems to really have taken off since that old PE grow..
ill be checking in here and there let me know if you have any questions Kriznarf..

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Scotty, my man, really glad to see you tuning in. I wasn't sure how active you were on RIU these days. Thanks again for creating your original journal and taking the time to answer all those questions. I've learned a lot from you!

My first question/concern is related to my plant seeming a little droopy. As if those large fan leaves are just too heavy for the plant to fully support sometimes. Again, this is just a bit of drooping. She's not wilting at all. It doesn't seem to be that big of a problem though as she looks very healthy otherwise. Despite being a few days behind where you were at this stage (with regard to plant size) she's growing very well. Should be laying the screen down in a day or two.

I also always meant to ask for your thoughts on using an air-stone in the reservoir. Don't think you used one (at least you never mentioned it,) but other growers seem to have good results with that particular addition. Mr2shim and I were discussing this a while back. We're both currently using air-stones.

Stay tuned for an update tonight! Finally got a new battery for my DSLR, too. The pics should bump back up in quality as a result.

yeah man get some pics in here! I have the PE and the Buddha bubble going strong and of course no camera, but in two weeks I will beging flowering. I think I had bleach contaimant in the hydroton in my WF so I had to ixnay the seedling there will start over with fresh 'ton like I SHOULD have in the first place... ah well

Hey Kriz - sorry i'm so late for the party!! ..just got back from vacation!

Wow, things are looking really good - you may want to start some training on her and just pull her 'open' a bit to help things spread out - just a thought. Keep it up!

Day: 26

PPM: 650

Baked.

I fucking love coming home to this plant every day! She's looking great. Glad to have my DSLR in action again, too. Love taking some of those close up shots.

Did a little bit of testing before diving into the LST and that central stalk really didn't seem to like the bending. But with how she's bushing out now, I think I'm okay skipping on the early LST and laying down the screen in the near future.

Not much in the way of concerns. Bumped to 650 PPM during my last reservoir change, which was the day before yesterday, I think. I tend to check once or twice a day and PPM has remained constant since.

>implying that nutes are on target.

Some of those big lower leaves still seem a bit droopy, but since the plant seems to be healthy otherwise, I haven't been too concerned. Part of me thinks they're just too big for the plant to support.

weed nerds.

Dayzt said:

Hey Kriz - sorry i'm so late for the party!! ..just got back from vacation!

Wow, things are looking really good - you may want to start some training on her and just pull her 'open' a bit to help things spread out - just a thought. Keep it up!

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This is a great idea and I will totally do this. Cheers.

Right on man - you can really see the branching coming up nicely from below. As you gently pull it apart, that lower stuff will thank you for it - you're gonna have a big bushy plant, I can already tell!!

Subbed up + rep, seriously got to get one of these.

kriznarf said:

Scotty, my man, really glad to see you tuning in. I wasn't sure how active you were on RIU these days. Thanks again for creating your original journal and taking the time to answer all those questions. I've learned a lot from you!

My first question/concern is related to my plant seeming a little droopy. As if those large fan leaves are just too heavy for the plant to fully support sometimes. Again, this is just a bit of drooping. She's not wilting at all. It doesn't seem to be that big of a problem though as she looks very healthy otherwise. Despite being a few days behind where you were at this stage (with regard to plant size) she's growing very well. Should be laying the screen down in a day or two.

I also always meant to ask for your thoughts on using an air-stone in the reservoir. Don't think you used one (at least you never mentioned it,) but other growers seem to have good results with that particular addition. Mr2shim and I were discussing this a while back. We're both currently using air-stones.

Stay tuned for an update tonight! Finally got a new battery for my DSLR, too. The pics should bump back up in quality as a result.

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As for the leaves drooping that fine you will notice when in flower they will perk up right before the lights come on and will start to droop when the lights are about to go out.. Im not sure exactly why this happens I guess the plant is resting and waking up.. but during vege its also fine dont worry about that at all them leaves can get heavy..

As for a bubble wond in the resivor been there done that seen no difrence I had a overkill pump too for a 150 gallon fish tank.. roots looked no better and no difrence in yeild.. the water farms are already capable of packing the lower res and upper grow bucket with a brick of roots another line and bubble wond is just going to take up room imo.. also bubles them selves dont add much O2 to the water its the agitation of the surface layer where air meets water that 95% of the exchange happens..

That said think about it every drop of water that go's over the hydroton is surface layer water that is the key why waterfarms perform the way they do with the root system.. if you see somone with not so good looking roots with a WF its do to over fertilization.. or adding things that dont need to be in there...

also note the roots will turn a light brown orangish color from the hydroton and nutes.. so dont be alarmed ..

99% of the time if you have root rot its from damage from over ferting.. you will see signs from the smell of your water (like somthing died) and a lower water uptake then normal, Like if your plant was drinking a gallon of water a day then it starts cutting back. If you start seeing these signs flush with straight water for a few days then start back off at 1/2 strength.. I do most of my grows at 1/2 anyway its a 1000 times better to add less nutes then to much..

I'm sub'd......... gotta see this!!!

Kriz - Thanks for the PM reply. I'll hit you up with questions on your journal from now on. Damn, those are some monster fan leaves. Think I've got more of a sat. PE strain from G13. You lady is looking fat and happy. Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in flower.

When you change/add water or nutes are you just pouring over the Hyd. Plan on using a funnel or tubing once screen is down?

SCOTTYBALLS said:

As for the leaves drooping that fine you will notice when in flower they will perk up right before the lights come on and will start to droop when the lights are about to go out.. Im not sure exactly why this happens I guess the plant is resting and waking up.. but during vege its also fine dont worry about that at all them leaves can get heavy..

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Yeah, I have noticed this "waking up" situation that you're describing. Most of the plant goes through that process on a daily basis, it's just those big fan leaves at the bottom that never seem to pick up. This is why I think that they're just too damn heavy for my girl, ha. Not too worried here.

As for a bubble wond in the resivor been there done that seen no difrence I had a overkill pump too for a 150 gallon fish tank.. roots looked no better and no difrence in yeild.. the water farms are already capable of packing the lower res and upper grow bucket with a brick of roots another line and bubble wond is just going to take up room imo.. also bubles them selves dont add much O2 to the water its the agitation of the surface layer where air meets water that 95% of the exchange happens..

That said think about it every drop of water that go's over the hydroton is surface layer water that is the key why waterfarms perform the way they do with the root system.. if you see somone with not so good looking roots with a WF its do to over fertilization.. or adding things that dont need to be in there...

also note the roots will turn a light brown orangish color from the hydroton and nutes.. so dont be alarmed ..

99% of the time if you have root rot its from damage from over ferting.. you will see signs from the smell of your water (like somthing died) and a lower water uptake then normal, Like if your plant was drinking a gallon of water a day then it starts cutting back. If you start seeing these signs flush with straight water for a few days then start back off at 1/2 strength.. I do most of my grows at 1/2 anyway its a 1000 times better to add less nutes then to much..

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Yeah, this confirms a lot of what I was thinking earlier. That if you're using a beefier air pump and have drilled the extra holes in the upper chamber of the waterfarm, you probably don't need an air stone in the reservoir. Pretty sure that Dayzt didn't use one in his Tangerine Dream grow, which turned out super well. That said, I've already got one in there and probably won't remove it at this point. I know it's taking up a little space, but if it isn't hurting the system then I'd rather not mess with it.

Thanks for the quick response! These are things I've been curious about for a while.

Declectic said:

I'm sub'd......... gotta see this!!!

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Thanks for tuning in! Hope this turns out to be just as impressive as the other Scotty grows floating around right now.

kriznarf said:

Thanks for tuning in! Hope this turns out to be just as impressive as the other Scotty grows floating around right now.

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I'm confident it will.

Fuzznutz said:

Kriz - Thanks for the PM reply. I'll hit you up with questions on your journal from now on. Damn, those are some monster fan leaves. Think I've got more of a sat. PE strain from G13. You lady is looking fat and happy. Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in flower.

When you change/add water or nutes are you just pouring over the Hyd. Plan on using a funnel or tubing once screen is down?

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Yeah, I just pour it back over the hydroton. I'm debating the screen height right now, but I did pick up a funnel kit just in case.

mr2shim said:

I'm confident it will.

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Ha, thanks man. Homework done, fingers crossed.

She's looking awesome man! those lower fan leaves are HUGE!! LOL

kriznarf said:

Thanks for tuning in! Hope this turns out to be just as impressive as the other Scotty grows floating around right now.

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I hope so too… I'm taking notes!

hey kriznarf just a quick question how long do you run your airpump iv just bought an aquafarm and i'm abit wary about how many times a day do you run yor airpump and for how long thanks in advance