SCOTTYBALLS Tribute Grow! Pineapple Express 400w Scrog Waterfarm

Still looking great kriz! I have to agree with you - some LST earlier on would have given you a wider plant at this point, but it wouldn't be that close to the screen. Once your lights are flipped though, you'll be able to really start moving those arms out to the edges.

I have to say, I am SO going to steal your idea with those clamps you're using to mount the screen - where did you buy them? They're ultra adjustable I'll bet...excellent idea! I'm glad I won't be having to build legs for the screen or mess with more twist-tie on it. I'll be building my 2 new screens with half-inch pvc piping and corners, then adding the small eyelets along each side before 'racketing' the string across it - it all looks great in my head..we'll see.

Dayzt said:

Still looking great kriz! I have to agree with you - some LST earlier on would have given you a wider plant at this point, but it wouldn't be that close to the screen. Once your lights are flipped though, you'll be able to really start moving those arms out to the edges.

I have to say, I am SO going to steal your idea with those clamps you're using to mount the screen - where did you buy them? They're ultra adjustable I'll bet...excellent idea! I'm glad I won't be having to build legs for the screen or mess with more twist-tie on it. I'll be building my 2 new screens with half-inch pvc piping and corners, then adding the small eyelets along each side before 'racketing' the string across it - it all looks great in my head..we'll see.

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You and me both, that is a great idea a lot better than zip ties.

The clamps are awesome, for sure. I picked them up at a mom & pop hardware store down the street from my place, but I bet you can find similar gear at most hardware stores. They were about $3 each. Dayzt, your future screen sounds damn nice. Can't wait to see that come together.

Hey kriz - I'm too lazy to search... what did you grow in your first round? I was just looking back at the pics you posted in the first post of this journal and it didn't say what it was... cheers!

Dayzt said:

Hey kriz - I'm too lazy to search... what did you grow in your first round? I was just looking back at the pics you posted in the first post of this journal and it didn't say what it was... cheers!

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My first grow was a total comedy of errors (as I'm sure most people's first grows are.) Still, I learned a ton and was super excited for round 2. The first grow was a soil grow (Fox Farms Ocean Forest) in Smart Pots. Fox Farm Nutes and an HPS all the way through. The two plants on the left were DNA's 60-Day Wonder (William's Wonder x Ruderalis,) which looks and tastes great with a nice, mellow high. Though I have to say, 90-Day Wonder is probably a more appropriate name, ha. The two plants on the right (the lollipop looking guys) are BC Mango, which looks frosted as hell and has an awesome fruity taste and smell. The BC Mango wasn't feminized, so I realized after I'd ordered it that I probably shouldn't use it for my current grow, but I didn't want them to go to waste. I dialed back the lights to 12/12 (they had previously been at 20/4 for the autoflowering guys, which may have something to do with why they took 90 days to finish) and started the Mango as a 12/12 from seed experiment, hoping the two would finish at the same time. In the end I pulled about 6.4 ounces, 75% of which was the 60-Day Wonder. I've attached some nug porn below. At this point they have been curing for about 8 weeks. The 60-Day Wonder is on the left and the BC Mango is on the right.

Look for updates on my current grow tonight! Put up the HPS and flipped to 12/12 last night. Super excited!

very cool nugs.. I have a western winds that is 12/12 from seed they say it basically flowers from the start and it sure looks like it now at the 1.3 month mark. Lst'd it too - five main colas are starting to form . So did you dial the lights down this time or just flipped to 12/12 right away? Oh yeah harvested a barney's cheese I care took for a buddy yesterday. Oh my is that some glorious stank going on he had to flower it early still pulled a (wet) 37.4 gram bud heh heh.

Day 35, or Day 1 of 12/12!

PPM: 910

Wow, I forgot how much that HPS really washes out the pictures. Any tips on that?

She's growing at a healthy rate and drinking a ton. Hard to tell from the pics, but she's looking to be a slightly lighter shade of green than I'd like. Nutes had dropped to 720 before I filled the reservoir with a fresh 2 gal of 910.

I also dismantled the pump column and drip ring. Washed everything out really well with warm water. Took out a fan leaf from the main stalk in the process. Might not be so bad, though. Could slow down the growth of the central stalk a bit, allowing the others to catch up.

As you can see, I've started to train the tops as best I can, working them outward. At the same time I've been tucking some of the larger fan leaves back under the screen. In a couple days I've already learned a lot about how to be handling those stems/leaves.

Really excited to be flowering.

Only tip I have is if you're using a DSLR put the white balance on tungsten. I haven't messed around with settings much but that's the best I can get with it right now. Looking good. That plant is definitely going to fill out that screen.

You can try to set the white balance with white peice of paper under the HPS some cameras can adjust for it.. also use the flash wich will throw out some extra blue.. even with my s95 under full manual controls not all pictures come out that great.. I like to sneak in when the lights are off to snap pictures with the flash makes the crystals glow...

Day: 4 (12/12) 38 Total

EC: 2.1 (Approx. 1050 ppm)

Just a quick update here. Been bothering my girl at least once a day. Probably fussing with her too much when it comes to how and where I should train her. I've already learned quite a bit about how I should be handling those stems and leaves. I was a bit afraid to really get in there and mess with her early on (hence the lack of pre-scrog LST,) but now I'm much more aware of what she can actually handle.

You may have also noticed that I posted my reservoir's EC for the first time. Pretty sure I broke my Hanna meter by submerging it too far into my test cup. I bought a Blue Lab Truncheon to replace it. Everybody tells me they're the best. I've been pretty impressed so far.

Next update on Thursday. Hoping to find some time to play with my DSLR so that I can get some better shots. For whatever reason my White Balance was locked, but I couldn't find the setting that would allow me to change it.

Now it is time to sleep.

She looks awesome Kriznarf, subbed! One question though early on did you do any form of topping or fimming? She looks likes she has multiple tops.

mr2shim said:

Only tip I have is if you're using a DSLR put the white balance on tungsten.

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QFT

looking nice.....should start filling that screen up real soon!

what nute line up are you using?

AWnox said:

She looks awesome Kriznarf, subbed! One question though early on did you do any form of topping or fimming? She looks likes she has multiple tops.

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No topping or FIM'ing. As soon as I started training her into that screen growth shifted to those areas that were exposed to the light. New tops popped in to fill those empty spaces in the canopy. I'll try to get a pic of all the new tops coming up from around the central stalk.

widowmaker31 said:

looking nice.....should start filling that screen up real soon!

what nute line up are you using?

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Just Flora Nova Bloom through the entire grow, which is basically Lucas Formula. Couldn't really get much easier than this and I've seen some amazing results.

right on I couldn't agree with you more.....looks like the girls are going to reward you quite nice at the end! Looking very good!

widow

widowmaker31 said:

right on I couldn't agree with you more.....looks like the girls are going to reward you quite nice at the end! Looking very good!

widow

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Thanks man. Yeah, I love working with this plant.

She drank a gallon in the last 24 hours. EC popped up to 2.4 (1200 ppm.) Looks like I was a bit heavy on the nutes. Added a gallon of fresh water with a lower concentration of nutes, bringing the EC to 2.0 (1000 ppm.) I'm cool with that.

More training today. Took a few pics, too. Did my best to play with the White Balance, but sadly there is no tungsten setting on my DSLR. I wasn't able to find a good fit. However, I did zap the pics with a little of Picasa's "I'm feeling lucky" button. They're still heavy on those warm colors, but it's a bit better. You can really see some of the new tops coming in to fill the canopy. I also took a pic of the main stem, which is taking to the training pretty well.

kriznarf...nice grow....

I was curious...Does the screen stay in the same place for the whole grow ? Or do you move it up as the plant gets larger ?

SpaaaceCowboy said:

kriznarf...nice grow....

I was curious...Does the screen stay in the same place for the whole grow ? Or do you move it up as the plant gets larger ?

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Thanks man!

The Screen stays locked in place. Some scroggers have setups that allow for the screen to move around a bit, but you generally want to keep the plant from pushing the screen up and potentially unbalancing that even canopy. Scroggers that use very flexible materials to make their screens sometimes have problems in this area, too.

The height at which you initially place the screen depends upon the strain you're growing. For a stout little indica, the screen could be set about 8 inches up, though a leggy sativa would probably need 12 inches. Some early LST is def going to help when it comes to early scrog training. Something else to think about is how you're going to work around the screen when it comes to re-filling your reservoir or performing maitenance on your gear (assuming you're using a waterfarm/aquafarm or dwc kit.)

How close together can you scrog 2 plants? I'm thinking of down sizing to 2 pots in my tent, noway I could do 4.