For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

[Scoopdizzle]

Ok i have a question!! Im not sure if this question has already been asked... because this thread is waaaay too long and personally i just dont have time to read through EVERYTHING. So here it is...as simple as it may be. Im running a 6 bucket ebb n gro system. Im running 2 strains... OG kush (5) and Blue Dream (1). Im 55 days into flower and the blue dream is showing a few amber trichs indicating it will be ready for the final flush in a week or two...However the OG kush plants look like they may need 2-4 more weeks until the final flush. My question is how the F**K am i supposed to to flush one with out flushing the other in an ebb n gro system?????? This has been boggling me for about a week already so i figured i ask you vets in the room on how to approach this issue. ANY suggestions are very much appreciated. Much Love! Smoke on!

 

[jdmcwestevo]

Ok i have a question!! Im not sure if this question has already been asked... because this thread is waaaay too long and personally i just dont have time to read through EVERYTHING. So here it is...as simple as it may be. Im running a 6 bucket ebb n gro system. Im running 2 strains... OG kush (5) and Blue Dream (1). Im 55 days into flower and the blue dream is showing a few amber trichs indicating it will be ready for the final flush in a week or two...However the OG kush plants look like they may need 2-4 more weeks until the final flush. My question is how the F**K am i supposed to to flush one with out flushing the other in an ebb n gro system?????? This has been boggling me for about a week already so i figured i ask you vets in the room on how to approach this issue. ANY suggestions are very much appreciated. Much Love! Smoke on!

sounds like a very early blue dream my experience they go a bit longer than 8 weeks closer to 9 1/2 just dont flush. not a big deal honestly pull it and dry it if u want. i personally would go more amber like 50/50 atleast. also the OG should do around 9 week as well.

 

[Scoopdizzle]

sounds like a very early blue dream my experience they go a bit longer than 8 weeks closer to 9 1/2 just dont flush. not a big deal honestly pull it and dry it if u want. i personally would go more amber like 50/50 atleast. also the OG should do around 9 week as well.

Well actually this monday coming up will be the start of week 9, and was planning on flushing 7-14 days as i want the best tasting OG and BD possible. So really it all adds up the above mentioned time for these strains....but ill tell you now...the OG is far behind the BD.....I may have to push the OG 70 days or more from the looks of it........now in response to NOT flushing.....I dont think thats an option for me...Im really into QUALITY buds and i think a flush done properly does wonders when smoking/vaping. I also tend to bitch if i buy meds from the dispensary and my meds arent flushed right (burning black, cracking and so forth). I am more so looking for a method to get both plants flush using this system. Or do i have to take the loss and flush at the same and have my OG suffer a bit from not eating so loooong???

Thanks for the input though!

 

[jdmcwestevo]

Well actually this monday coming up will be the start of week 9, and was planning on flushing 7-14 days as i want the best tasting OG and BD possible. So really it all adds up the above mentioned time for these strains....but ill tell you now...the OG is far behind the BD.....I may have to push the OG 70 days or more from the looks of it........now in response to NOT flushing.....I dont think thats an option for me...Im really into QUALITY buds and i think a flush done properly does wonders when smoking/vaping. I also tend to bitch if i buy meds from the dispensary and my meds arent flushed right (burning black, cracking and so forth). I am more so looking for a method to get both plants flush using this system. Or do i have to take the loss and flush at the same and have my OG suffer a bit from not eating so loooong???

Thanks for the input though!

i "flush" for 3 days my buds burn light gray ash no cracking or popping of any kind. i had a dispensary for a long long time in socal and im opening a new one now and i have never had any complaints from my bud from patients. and 7-14 weeks is a long ass time to flush man. but back to the ebb and flow thing. its not a great system for multiple strains with different finishing times as you have found out.

 

[Scoopdizzle]

Nice! Heres the thing...I use house and garden nutes and i skipped out on the drip clean, however ive been doing res changes every 2 weeks and when i do a res change i flush for one day and then jump back on nutes ( i also use tap water at 250ppm yikes) .....so with that said...maybe i can get away with 3-5 day flush considering i have flushed throughout the cycle so far... Thanks for that info!! im gonna take you up on that! Hopefully my buds burn grey and still taste amazing...bkus these strains are well know for both of those qualities and i dont wanna downgrade the strain if you know what i mean......lols And yes i think on my next go around ill stick with one strain if im still using ebb n gro....i may do a scrog or something i dont know...

 

[jdmcwestevo]

Nice! Heres the thing...I use house and garden nutes and i skipped out on the drip clean, however ive been doing res changes every 2 weeks and when i do a res change i flush for one day and then jump back on nutes ( i also use tap water at 250ppm yikes) .....so with that said...maybe i can get away with 3-5 day flush considering i have flushed throughout the cycle so far... Thanks for that info!! im gonna take you up on that! Hopefully my buds burn grey and still taste amazing...bkus these strains are well know for both of those qualities and i dont wanna downgrade the strain if you know what i mean......lols And yes i think on my next go around ill stick with one strain if im still using ebb n gro....i may do a scrog or something i dont know...

also you should do res change weekly if u want better quality buds as well that is much more important than the flush drip clean works wonders man

 

[Refusedpanda]

Hi All, the top valve in the control bucket doesnt seem to click on its own, I need to actually touch it for it to stop the fill. Any suggestions?

 

[hellraizer30]

Hi All, the top valve in the control bucket doesnt seem to click on its own, I need to actually touch it for it to stop the fill. Any suggestions?

is it dirty? if it not turning off and it will over flow you might need to call cap, never had one go out so im
not up to speed on what to do in this case.

 

[Refusedpanda]

HR thanks for the reply man. It was not dirty at all, but just didn't really trigger the sensor. I did manage to solve the problem by adjusting the fill hose to the controller box to dump and flow up towards the top float switch. This allowed the float to jiggle more and operate as normal. It was frustrating because the switch wasn't broken, but system is working now so woot!

When I had that hose dumping in the middle it would just fill up and the water would go over the float on the switch and just flood out, really weird. Now water doesn't make it over the float on the swtich!

 

[hellraizer30]

HR thanks for the reply man. It was not dirty at all, but just didn't really trigger the sensor. I did manage to solve the problem by adjusting the fill hose to the controller box to dump and flow up towards the top float switch. This allowed the float to jiggle more and operate as normal. It was frustrating because the switch wasn't broken, but system is working now so woot!

When I had that hose dumping in the middle it would just fill up and the water would go over the float on the switch and just flood out, really weird. Now water doesn't make it over the float on the swtich!

cudos for fixing it but your not worried you will be gone sometime and it just flood the area?

 

[Refusedpanda]

I think I will be fine, as mentioned the switch itself was not broken just not getting the right water flow. It was weird that it had to have some rough water to make it work correctly. I am a little worried about it flooding but I watched it go through a few cycles and it was operating correctly. Do you think I have to much faith in CAP? LOL

 

[hellraizer30]

In a way yes but ive had great luck so who knows.

 

[Refusedpanda]

Ok, so you jinxed me. After running the set up outside and seeing it worked well I went ahead and moved it into the tent and plugged it in. On the first fill, damn top float didn't want to trigger yet again. Bastard. I then went back to adjusting the hose and seeing if I could get it to build more wake under the top float, failed. I even added a 90 degree to make it jet more, again fail.While I was blow drying a piece of hose to get it to straighten out, the fill cycle was still on and when I came back it was working on its own without the hose connected to the fill barb. I let it sit and watch it drain and fill for a few cycles and its worked fine/perfect with out that fill hose. Weird right...

I don't see a need for it since it just directs the water down into the control bucket, so I'm leaving it out for now. Besides the water shooting down and out from the fill barb is creating enough wake in the water to make the trigger work on its own.

I hope this is the last time I have to mess with this...but I think I'm asking for to much LOL.

 

[Ferredoxin]

also you should do res change weekly if u want better quality buds as well that is much more important than the flush drip clean works wonders man

I changed weekly on my last grow, and was told by multiple people that weekly is too often. Some suggested 2-3 weeks, and researchkitty said she goes the whole grow without dumping. I went the first 3 weeks of flower this time around without dumping, and I see no difference compared to weekly changes. I started out a little hot with the nutes (1000ppm), so I only added back nutes once in that three weeks @ 1/4 strength....the rest was fresh water. The Sour D's are now 4 feet tall and budding like crazy. My GDPs (on same system) are much shorter but very healthy.

 

[jdmcwestevo]

I changed weekly on my last grow, and was told by multiple people that weekly is too often. Some suggested 2-3 weeks, and researchkitty said she goes the whole grow without dumping. I went the first 3 weeks of flower this time around without dumping, and I see no difference compared to weekly changes. I started out a little hot with the nutes (1000ppm), so I only added back nutes once in that three weeks @ 1/4 strength....the rest was fresh water. The Sour D's are now 4 feet tall and budding like crazy. My GDPs (on same system) are much shorter but very healthy.

you want fresh nutes every week for a lot of reasons. #1 reason is that the plants dont take all the stuff in that water! lets say you have 10 parts of N P K right if the plant eats 8 parts N 2 parts p and k that would leave 2N 8P 8K right. if u add another 10 of each with ur nutes u add without draining out the old you now have toxic levels of p and k.....even though your meter might read your proper EC. also that can lead to very hard to diagnose issues like nute lockout too much P can lock out calcium...that can be tricky to figure out. also if you have any type of virus or disease like pithium if u dont change ur res every week it will spread very easily and grow much worse.

you can go 2 weeks if you want, but to get AA+ meds you need to meticulous on ur nutes. end of the day the plants will grow etc., but if you want the BEST that is what you do. ideally drain to waste is the best because fresh nutes EVERY feeding.

 

[Ferredoxin]

you want fresh nutes every week for a lot of reasons. #1 reason is that the plants dont take all the stuff in that water! lets say you have 10 parts of N P K right if the plant eats 8 parts N 2 parts p and k that would leave 2N 8P 8K right. if u add another 10 of each with ur nutes u add without draining out the old you now have toxic levels of p and k.....even though your meter might read your proper EC. also that can lead to very hard to diagnose issues like nute lockout too much P can lock out calcium...that can be tricky to figure out. also if you have any type of virus or disease like pithium if u dont change ur res every week it will spread very easily and grow much worse.

you can go 2 weeks if you want, but to get AA+ meds you need to meticulous on ur nutes. end of the day the plants will grow etc., but if you want the BEST that is what you do. ideally drain to waste is the best because fresh nutes EVERY feeding.

I see where you are coming from. I had that strategy on my previous grows. This time around I changed things up, and I see no real difference yet. Same strain, nutes, etc...only longer intervals between dumps. I have no deficiency symptoms, and all plants are healthy and strong. I am only 3 weeks in flower, so we will see how it goes from here. I run a str8 1:1:1 of GH Flora @ EC ~1.8 with Protekt & Koolbloom supplements. I dont see how people run Lucas. With my tapwater (200ppm) I come close to EC 3.0 doing 8/16 per gal. I have toasted plants with numbers that high!

Go a few pages back in this thread where I asked about this same topic. The consensus seemed to be that dumping/refilling weekly was too often.

 

[hellraizer30]

I like 14 days if I have to il go three weeks although I cant see a difference in 2 to 3 weeks, but if I could somehow keep the cost down
on nutes I would go every week.

 

[jdmcwestevo]

lol i DIE if i cant change every 7 days. with aptus i have to change every 3 days lol because all the sups are organic so they cant sit in a res that long

 

[jdmcwestevo]

I see where you are coming from. I had that strategy on my previous grows. This time around I changed things up, and I see no real difference yet. Same strain, nutes, etc...only longer intervals between dumps. I have no deficiency symptoms, and all plants are healthy and strong. I am only 3 weeks in flower, so we will see how it goes from here. I run a str8 1:1:1 of GH Flora @ EC ~1.8 with Protekt & Koolbloom supplements. I dont see how people run Lucas. With my tapwater (200ppm) I come close to EC 3.0 doing 8/16 per gal. I have toasted plants with numbers that high!

Go a few pages back in this thread where I asked about this same topic. The consensus seemed to be that dumping/refilling weekly was too often.

1.8ec is high for my taste honestly. i dont like going over 1.4ec at most.

 

[hellraizer30]

Wow 3days thats crazy man