Let 'em die! Woooooo! Yeah!

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munch box

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dukeanthony said:
SMALL BUSINESS BREAKS FROM OBAMA
Here's the list of 17 small business tax cuts that President Obama has signed into law --
From the Recovery Act, HIRE Acts, and Affordable Care Act:
1. A New Small Business Health Care Tax Credit
2. A New Tax Credit for Hiring Unemployed Workers
3. Bonus Depreciation Tax Incentives to Support New Investment
4. 75% Exclusion of Small Business Capital Gains
5. Expansion of Limits on Small Business Expensing
6. Five-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses
7. Reduction of the Built-In Gains Holding Period for Small Businesses from 10 to 7 Years to Allow Small Business Greater Flexibility in Their Investments
8. Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief to Allow Small Businesses to Keep Needed Cash on Hand
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From the Small Business Jobs Act:
9. Zero Capital Gains Taxes on Key Investments in Small Businesses
10. The Highest Small Business Expensing Limit Ever– Up to $500,000
11. An Extension of 50% Bonus Depreciation
12. A New Deduction for Health Care Expenses for the Self-Employed
13. Tax Relief and Simplification for Cell Phone Deductions
14. An Increase in The Deduction for Entrepreneurs’ Start-Up Expenses
15. A Five-Year Carryback Of General Business Credits
16. Limitations on Penalties for Errors in Tax Reporting That Disproportionately Affect Small Business
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And from the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act:
17. 100 Percent Expensing
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/02/25/seventeen-small-business-tax-cuts-and-counting
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A white house blog? LMFAO. Are you serious? REAL INFO -----> http://jan.ocregister.com/2011/03/08/are-calif-businesses-closing-or-leaving/55995/
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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munch box said:
Tell Obama's bureaucracy to keep thier foot off the throat of small business. In the mean time, don't tie one hand behind my back and then tell me to "clap louder"
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what new building codes and bureaucracy signed into law by obama have prevented you from working?

please list bill names and provisions therein. be specific.

:lol:
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
UncleBuck said:
just like putting a puzzle together.

no reason for building and safety standards, those things are TYRANNY.
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Would you need someone holding your hand to build an adequate shelter? i DON'T and therefore having to pay for inspections and follow codes (some of which are farcical(sp?)) is an infringement on my right/ability to quickly and efficiently provide a shelter for my family imo.
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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budlover13 said:
Would you need someone holding your hand to build an adequate shelter? i DON'T and therefore having to pay for inspections and follow codes (some of which are farcical(sp?)) is an infringement on my right/ability to quickly and efficiently provide a shelter for my family imo.
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WHen the house you Build for My neigbor Burns to the ground and ignites my house On fire because you Refused to follow Code

yeah i am going to be pretty pissed off.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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budlover13 said:
Would you need someone holding your hand to build an adequate shelter? i DON'T and therefore having to pay for inspections and follow codes (some of which are farcical(sp?)) is an infringement on my right/ability to quickly and efficiently provide a shelter for my family imo.
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let's let everyone do the same, even the dullards who build next door.

when their home burns down and catches yours on fire, you'll sing a different tune.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
UncleBuck said:
let's let everyone do the same, even the dullards who build next door.

when their home burns down and catches yours on fire, you'll sing a different tune.
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i see what you are saying and i personally would not want a neighbor within ten miles lol. Having one next door, maybe i'm just a decent person and when i see him doing something unwise i help him out. i know not everyone feels that way but protecting MY home is MY job imo. Would i want or appreciate help? Yes, as long as it is help, not a hinderance.
 
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munch box

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UncleBuck said:
i asked you "what new building codes and bureaucracy signed into law by obama have prevented you from working?", so we agree.

so, start listing some.
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Sure smart guy. Lets start off with Obama's support for the California Air Resources Board:


Small Business polled in California:
  • “We will go where we can operate profitably.”
  • “The way things are going we’ll have to move out of state just to survive.”
  • “Nevada and other states offer a much more friendly climate.”
  • “Ease of communication, travel and shipping make relocating less onerous.”
  • “If I am (still in business in 2014), it will be in another state. The business and regulatory climate in CA is too oppressive.”
  • “I already moved as much as possible out of CA, but I will not abandon my clients here and will keep a satellite office.”
A few of those leaving the Golden State mention their destination: Texas, Nevada, Arizona, the Midwest or Oregon.
These small guys are usually overlooked in news reports, but they’re not alone. In recent years so of California’s biggest companies have announced moves to other states including Apple expansion to North Carolina; Beckman Coulter in Brea expansion to Indianapolis, Ind.; Edwards Life Sciences in Irvine added 1,000 jobs in Draper, Utah; and Fluor moved its corporate headquarters from Irvine to Texas.

Others in the Small Business California poll plan to close completely, many by retirement. Here’s a sample of what the others said:
  • “Can’t afford to quit but not making much; I’m 63 and may just give up.”
  • “The business climate here is punishing and not conducive to small-business success. We’ve been in business for 16 years, but conditions keep worsening.”
  • “We’re holding on by a thread and playing it day by day.”
  • “CARB (California Air Resources Board) will force us to shut our doors. Over-regulation and extremely high costs of doing business.”
  • “Way too difficult to do business here…everyone has their hand in your pocket. CA needs to get a grip on the fact that small business is the driver and without it, we are doomed.”
Shall I go on, or would you like to discuss this further?
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
dukeanthony said:
WHen the house you Build for My neigbor Burns to the ground and ignites my house On fire because you Refused to follow Code

yeah i am going to be pretty pissed off.
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As you should. Why did you not help that neighbor when you had the chance? Why did you not protect YOUR home against fire by clearing an appropriate space, removing dry/dead vegetation, roofing with tile instead of tar or wood shingles, or HELPING YOUR NEIGHBOR WHEN YOU SEE HIM DOING SOMETHING THAT HE SHOULDN'T for safety reasons?
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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budlover13 said:
i see what you are saying and i personally would not want a neighbor within ten miles lol. Having one next door, maybe i'm just a decent person and when i see him doing something unwise i help him out. i know not everyone feels that way but protecting MY home is MY job imo. Would i want or appreciate help? Yes, as long as it is help, not a hinderance.
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You dont think its your job to protect your house?

Because you advocate throwing the building code out when it could effect you severly
Same as with Healthcare
Imagine some poor guy gets sick doesnt go to the doctor and ends up spreading TB to your family and kids
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
budlover13 said:
i see what you are saying and i personally would not want a neighbor within ten miles lol. Having one next door, maybe i'm just a decent person and when i see him doing something unwise i help him out. i know not everyone feels that way but protecting MY home is MY job imo. Would i want or appreciate help? Yes, as long as it is help, not a hinderance.
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having a code of building and safety regulations sounds like a good way to know what is helpful and what is a hinderance.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
dukeanthony said:
You dont think its your job to protect your house?

Because you advocate throwing the building code out when it could effect you severly
Same as with Healthcare
Imagine some poor guy gets sick doesnt go to the doctor and ends up spreading TB to your family and kids
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i ADVOCATE protecting my own house silly. You protect yours, i protect mine. It is not your responsibility nor right to tell me how to protect mine.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
munch box said:
Sure smart guy. Lets start off with Obama's support for the California Air Resources Board:


Small Business polled in California:
  • “We will go where we can operate profitably.”
  • “The way things are going we’ll have to move out of state just to survive.”
  • “Nevada and other states offer a much more friendly climate.”
  • “Ease of communication, travel and shipping make relocating less onerous.”
  • “If I am (still in business in 2014), it will be in another state. The business and regulatory climate in CA is too oppressive.”
  • “I already moved as much as possible out of CA, but I will not abandon my clients here and will keep a satellite office.”
A few of those leaving the Golden State mention their destination: Texas, Nevada, Arizona, the Midwest or Oregon.
These small guys are usually overlooked in news reports, but they’re not alone. In recent years so of California’s biggest companies have announced moves to other states including Apple expansion to North Carolina; Beckman Coulter in Brea expansion to Indianapolis, Ind.; Edwards Life Sciences in Irvine added 1,000 jobs in Draper, Utah; and Fluor moved its corporate headquarters from Irvine to Texas.

Others in the Small Business California poll plan to close completely, many by retirement. Here’s a sample of what the others said:
  • “Can’t afford to quit but not making much; I’m 63 and may just give up.”
  • “The business climate here is punishing and not conducive to small-business success. We’ve been in business for 16 years, but conditions keep worsening.”
  • “We’re holding on by a thread and playing it day by day.”
  • “CARB (California Air Resources Board) will force us to shut our doors. Over-regulation and extremely high costs of doing business.”
  • “Way too difficult to do business here…everyone has their hand in your pocket. CA needs to get a grip on the fact that small business is the driver and without it, we are doomed.”
Shall I go on, or would you like to discuss this further?
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complete fail.

the question was: what new building codes and bureaucracy signed into law by obama have prevented you from working?

please list bill names and provisions therein. be specific.

now, watching you dance is entertaining, but only in the sad way like watching a midget on rollerblades is entertaining.

i'll be waiting for you to list a single new building code signed into law by obama.
 
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