Dave's 2nd Grow - LSD in Bubble/DWC with Fogger

[daveroller]

They both look pretty good. Your are a little more airy due to the foxtailing. So the stuff you purchased is more compact. I like the way your sparkles though. Most likely cause it's been through less and is newer.

I like the effect of mine better. The stuff I bought is strong, but it knocks you out. Good for insomnia, but not for enjoyment too much. My homegrown isn't so bad (in spite of my previous smoke report, which I need to correct). And one hit can get me high. Last night I took 2 hits and was stoned for about 3 hours. Then I took another 2 hits before I went to sleep. When I woke up I felt really refreshed and not burned out at all.

 

[daveroller]

I got 39 grams of pure, top quality bud. Also got a pile of sticky leaves and small buds, which I didn't weigh. I'll use those for cannabutter.

Very small harvest, but only because I had some problems with this grow, which I'll try to avoid in the future.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I haven't found any more seeds in my buds since I started smoking this harvest. Not sure where they went, but I won't complain!

 

[dajosh42069]

Prob only a small male pod that didn't manage to get the entire plant. Congrats!

 

[daveroller]

This is the best stuff that I've smoked in a long time!

My earlier post about it making me fall asleep was flawed. I was stuffing way too much of my pot in the vaporizer. If I just smoke about 2 hits out of my one-hitter pipe, I get really high, but not too sleepy. Then when I'm coming down about 3 hours later, I have another 2 hits and can sleep like a baby if I want to.

It turns out to also be very good at relieving pain, which was the reason why I started smoking again anyway. Two hits this morning while I was having a raging back ache and I felt fine within a few minutes.

I'm very happy with the bud that I got from this plant! Wish I had a lot more, but an ounce should last me a few months if I don't smoke it too much.

 

[dajosh42069]

Few months? Wow...If I had harvests rollin in, which hopefully I will soon, i'd prob be smoking an 1/8th a day at least...I used to, but I couldn't afford it anymore. Now 2 grams will last me for about 3 or so days if I go easy on it.

 

[Jman305]

Here's a photo of my plant that I took today:

It's still growing, but you can see the problems it has. For one, most of the big fan leaves are down below where they aren't getting much light. It really could have benefited from a SCROG setup and maybe some better pruning during the veg phase.

Here are some more pics from today:

I've just begun to plan for my next grow, so I need to do some more reading to nail down the details, but here's what I'm planning so far. (Corrections are welcome.) I'll only grow it in veg up to about 20" tall and prune all of the lower branches off. Then during flower, after the plant grows tall enough, I'll set up a screen of cotton string about 5-6" from the main light fixture, parallel to it. (I might make the distance adjustable, in case I need more space away from the lights as the buds thicken & fan leaves grow out.) If necessary, I'll move the two CFL's lower, so that the lower leaves will get more light. The screen will be about 3' x 3', so that's how much room the branches will have to grow through it. I think this will be the best way to get maximum yield from my fluorescent lights, since they don't penetrate as well as HID's do. I want to be a little more conservative on size next time, even if it means getting a modest harvest, because I don't want another problem like I'm having now with the plant outgrowing the limited space it has in its cabinet.

Hey man great grow so far, especially for the first time! (I've only made it to post #138 so far) Suggestions about the Scrog... The reason you had such a hard time controlling this plant is its sativa dominant flowering. Sativas stretch to 2 or 3 times the veg height. There's really no way that I know of which way to predict it other than growing a strain you're familiar with. The screen is there to be used during that stretch period and weaving those branches in and out as they grow. That's what creates the effect that you had on that branch where all the bud sights got light when you tied it down. 20" veg height is a great goal mark for your setup imo. Having those 125 watt CFLs a little lower certainly wont hurt either. Even if you prune the same way you did (which looked marvelous by the way, awesome job) you can still get thicker flowers down below the canopy. Also, that's one sturdy stalk and I LOVE the fogger idea, that was brilliant.

 

[Jman305]

I think I heard that about fluorescent lights somewhere. But I think that the main problem with the buds in my photos is too much heat. They've been almost touching my lights. I'll have to move them.
Thanks.

Thats a bit of a stretch on CFLs making airy bud. It has a lot to do with genetics. Sativas have airier flowers than do indicas. I've seen some CFL grown bud before and that shit was as dense as bud from HPS I've had. It's a lot to do with the grower and his/her techniques.

 

[dajosh42069]

Yes. Well put.

 

[daveroller]

Thats a bit of a stretch on CFLs making airy bud. It has a lot to do with genetics. Sativas have airier flowers than do indicas. I've seen some CFL grown bud before and that shit was as dense as bud from HPS I've had. It's a lot to do with the grower and his/her techniques.

Thanks for the compliments, dude. I'm happy that I got a harvest at all this first time.

The strain I grew was mostly Indica and partly Sativa, bred from Mazar & Skunk #1. It's called "LSD" from Barney's Farm Seeds. Turned out to be pretty potent in spite of the loose buds. VERY happy with it and so are my friends. I'd like to know how somebody else grew dense buds using CFL's. There must be some trick to it. I've heard that you can get dense buds with them, but still not as dense as when using HPS lamps. I might try one more grow with my fluoros again, but avoid the problems I ran into with this grow, namely that the plant got way to big and a tangled mess. I won't let them veg so big next time before I make them flower. Anyway, can you point me to a particular grow that got dense buds using CFL's?

That screen idea was just something I posted as an idea for next time, which I was quickly talked out of. I didn't use that method in this grow and won't in the future. But I might try a real SCROG next time. That would require some other changes in my system besides adding a screen. (For one, I'll need access into the res without moving the plant.)

Yeah, the fogger worked great to create a big, healthy root system without using a very powerful (and noisy) air pump. I'll do that again, definitely. If you do, I would recommend using a Teflon coated membrane in the fogger to keep it from getting dirty too fast (only about $5). The main problem with the fogger is that it heats up the res water a bit (around 80 degrees), so it won't hold as much oxygen as 70 degree H2O. But my plant still got massive roots. And since my grow cabinet is in our bedroom, making it quiet is a big priority. (I want to stay married.)

 

[Jman305]

Thanks for the compliments, dude. I'm happy that I got a harvest at all this first time.

The strain I grew was mostly Indica and partly Sativa, bred from Mazar & Skunk #1. It's called "LSD" from Barney's Farm Seeds. Turned out to be pretty potent in spite of the loose buds. VERY happy with it and so are my friends. I'd like to know how somebody else grew dense buds using CFL's. There must be some trick to it. I've heard that you can get dense buds with them, but still not as dense as when using HPS lamps. I might try one more grow with my fluoros again, but avoid the problems I ran into with this grow, namely that the plant got way to big and a tangled mess. I won't let them veg so big next time before I make them flower. Anyway, can you point me to a particular grow that got dense buds using CFL's?

That screen idea was just something I posted as an idea for next time, which I was quickly talked out of. I didn't use that method in this grow and won't in the future. But I might try a real SCROG next time. That would require some other changes in my system besides adding a screen. (For one, I'll need access into the res without moving the plant.)

Yeah, the fogger worked great to create a big, healthy root system without using a very powerful (and noisy) air pump. I'll do that again, definitely. If you do, I would recommend using a Teflon coated membrane in the fogger to keep it from getting dirty too fast (only about $5). The main problem with the fogger is that it heats up the res water a bit (around 80 degrees), so it won't hold as much oxygen as 70 degree H2O. But my plant still got massive roots. And since my grow cabinet is in our bedroom, making it quiet is a big priority. (I want to stay married.)

Most welcome for the kind words, sir. I've heard of LSD and I would LOVE to try some, its not really available where I'm at.

The trick to flowering with CFLs is keeping the light surrounding your plants through out the entire grow. 1-3" from the plant is the maximum distance you should have them once they get their 2nd or 3rd set of true leaves. I would go 4-5" for seedlings. Scrog is a great idea for CFLs as they don't have much penetration. Look for Garden Knowm's grow journal. He even has a book on how to get 8 oz for under $100. As far as adding the screen goes, I saw a post somewhere... I'm sorry I cant remember off the top of my head I'll look for it... where a guy was talking about building the screen onto your rez. Like using 4 poles around your rez and building a screen to tie to it that can be adjusted depending on sativa or indica dominant strains. I have an idea about doing it with soil or hempy buckets using bamboo and string to attach it directly to my container. It would allow me to rotate the plant and do regular trimming without disturbing the root systems or breaking any stems.

Thanks for the heads up on the fogger and the teflon coated membrane... that's some valuable info right thur. My bedroom would also be my growroom, and I don't think the wife likes loud noises... running water is alright but vibrations would get me killed. And as far as rez temps go, I think I'll just add some ice

 

[daveroller]

Most welcome for the kind words, sir. I've heard of LSD and I would LOVE to try some, its not really available where I'm at.

The trick to flowering with CFLs is keeping the light surrounding your plants through out the entire grow. 1-3" from the plant is the maximum distance you should have them once they get their 2nd or 3rd set of true leaves. I would go 4-5" for seedlings. Scrog is a great idea for CFLs as they don't have much penetration. Look for Garden Knowm's grow journal. He even has a book on how to get 8 oz for under $100. As far as adding the screen goes, I saw a post somewhere... I'm sorry I cant remember off the top of my head I'll look for it... where a guy was talking about building the screen onto your rez. Like using 4 poles around your rez and building a screen to tie to it that can be adjusted depending on sativa or indica dominant strains. I have an idea about doing it with soil or hempy buckets using bamboo and string to attach it directly to my container. It would allow me to rotate the plant and do regular trimming without disturbing the root systems or breaking any stems.

Thanks for the heads up on the fogger and the teflon coated membrane... that's some valuable info right thur. My bedroom would also be my growroom, and I don't think the wife likes loud noises... running water is alright but vibrations would get me killed. And as far as rez temps go, I think I'll just add some ice

Thanks for the info on CFLs. I might try using fluoros again before upgrading to the hotter lights. 8 oz would last me several years probably if I could smoke it all myself.

That LSD stuff is great! I still get stoned from just a one-hitter filled with it, even though I've been smoking it 2-3 times a day lately. It'll make you feel pretty confused for a bit when the high hits you and your heart rate will pick up for the first half hour or so. Then when it settles down it's so tempting to just sit and ponder that you'll find yourself doing it even if you try not to. If I start eating something sweet, it's really hard to stop, so sometimes I'll eat a whole pint of ice cream or maybe more. But if I decide not to eat anything or just something that's not too rich, then I can control myself. The high from a one-hitter lasts about 2 hours, so I usually light up another before I come down too much. Two one-hitters back to back of this stuff is just a waste in my opinion. I get higher if I wait a while before I do the second one.

EDIT: 2 one-hitters back to back are good if you really want to sleep. Works better than Ambien, seriously!

 

[lee6]

Nice grow. at least you got some smoke!

 

[widowmaker31]

glad to hear about your first grow and harvest! I am growing LSD (feminized) from Barney's Farm as well... along with some other strains....check out my grow journal with pics, noticed the homemade scrog I built....rep+

 

[Jman305]

Thanks for the info on CFLs. I might try using fluoros again before upgrading to the hotter lights. 8 oz would last me several years probably if I could smoke it all myself.

That LSD stuff is great! I still get stoned from just a one-hitter filled with it, even though I've been smoking it 2-3 times a day lately. It'll make you feel pretty confused for a bit when the high hits you and your heart rate will pick up for the first half hour or so. Then when it settles down it's so tempting to just sit and ponder that you'll find yourself doing it even if you try not to. If I start eating something sweet, it's really hard to stop, so sometimes I'll eat a whole pint of ice cream or maybe more. But if I decide not to eat anything or just something that's not too rich, then I can control myself. The high from a one-hitter lasts about 2 hours, so I usually light up another before I come down too much. Two one-hitters back to back of this stuff is just a waste in my opinion. I get higher if I wait a while before I do the second one.

EDIT: 2 one-hitters back to back are good if you really want to sleep. Works better than Ambien, seriously!

Lol on that ambien comment! I have some what of a tolerance but I've had some one hitters before that truly knock you on your ass. I totally feel you on the munchies too. I get them almost every time I smoke. I noticed its worse with indicas though.

 

[daveroller]

I just baked some cookies using canna butter, which I made for the first time.

To make the canna butter, I mixed 1 lb of melted butter with .8 oz of sticky leaves & small buds from my homegrown plant, plus some vaporized pot. (Check YouTube for videos on how to make it.)

For this batch of cookies I used 4 oz of half canna butter and half regular butter.

I ate some dough to clean off the utensils and the bowl. Tastes a lot like cannabis, but that actually tastes good to me. Sweet, sweet cannabis. It's been about an hour and I don't feel anything yet, so I'll have to smoke tonight after all. I'll probably need to eat a couple of cookies each time that I want to feel the effects.

Going to take these with me to the hospital where I'm having surgery followed by a long recovery, about 1 month. I'll need these to help me sleep and make the days go by a little less drearily.

BTW, these are oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.

 

[lordjin]

Looks yummy.

I actually was not a big fan of edibles up until a few months ago. A local shop here has a really great selection and they actually get me high. I think it's def a different sensation when the high starts in your stomach. Of course the best thing is to eat a cookie or two and then smoke a huge bowl. I end up doing that most of the time with edibles anyway... lol.

 

[daveroller]

Looks yummy.

I actually was not a big fan of edibles up until a few months ago. A local shop here has a really great selection and they actually get me high. I think it's def a different sensation when the high starts in your stomach. Of course the best thing is to eat a cookie or two and then smoke a huge bowl. I end up doing that most of the time with edibles anyway... lol.

Yeah, I wish I could toke up in the hospital bed, but the nurses would smell the smoke and then I'd be in big trouble.

Here's a picture of the canna butter that I still have left:

Should be enough for one more batch that'll be a bit stronger than the first one I made last night. Woo-hoo!

 

[lordjin]

That looks so cool. If I were handy around the kitchen, I might try that.

Right, of course you can't smoke it up in the hospital. Great alternative!

 

[daveroller]

That looks so cool. If I were handy around the kitchen, I might try that.

Right, of course you can't smoke it up in the hospital. Great alternative!

I'm just hoping it's enough to keep me feeling mellow and help me to sleep. Quitting pot is a lot like quitting coffee. I get a bit wired and anxious when I quit cold turkey. I'm hoping that the cookies will calm me down when I need them.

 

[lordjin]

I'm just hoping it's enough to keep me feeling mellow and help me to sleep. Quitting pot is a lot like quitting coffee. I get a bit wired and anxious when I quit cold turkey. I'm hoping that the cookies will calm me down when I need them.

Oh, don't get me started on pot withdrawal. We're not talking Trainspotting here, but there is a bit of 'crankiness' associated with stopping suddenly.

I currently have the tolerance of a large male silverback gorilla. My current routine (which has been going for almost four months since harvesting) is this: I get up, shower, and smoke a bowl... every day without fail -- with multiple bowls in the evening. Incredibly, despite my tolerance, this is still getting me mega-high without fail. But I do realize that if I just took a couple of days off and smoked it again, it would be a different story. I just might try that one of these days.

but yeah, stopping after you've been doing it regularly for a while is generally not fun. It's too bad you're not in my state. I would totally kick you down with bud in 'lean times.' Oh well.