how about I google "redivider" you piece of shit. I bet the word socialist comes up
Will Obama Be a "Shoe-In"?
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i'll do the research for you if it hurts too much.
Date Bill Sponsor(s) CRS* Description of Individual Mandate 1. Nov. 20, 1993
(date introduced) Consumer Choice Health Security Act (SB 1743) (624 KB)
Sponsored by Senator Don Nickles (R-OK) & 24 Republican cosponsors "Subtitle C: Employer Provisions - Requires employers to: (1) withhold health insurance premiums from employee wages and remit such premiums to the employee's chosen insurer; and (2) notify employees of their right to claim an advance refundable tax credit for such premiums." 2. Nov. 23, 1993
(date introduced) Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act (SB 1770) (1.6 MB)
Sponsored by Senator John H. Chafee (R-RI) & 20 cosponsors (2-D, 18-R) "Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005. Provides an exception for any individual who is opposed for religious reasons to health plan coverage, including those who rely on healing using spiritual means through prayer alone." 3. Jan. 18, 2007
(date introduced) Healthy Americans Act (SB 334) (427 KB)
Sponsored by Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) & 17 cosponsors (7-D, 1-I, 9-R) "Healthy Americans Act - Requires each adult individual to have the opportunity to purchase a Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plan (HAPI). Makes individuals who are not enrolled in another specified health plan and who are not opposed to coverage for religious reasons responsible for enrolling themselves and their dependent children in a HAPI plan offered through their state of residence. Sets forth penalties for failure to enroll." 4. Feb. 5, 2009
(date introduced) Healthy Americans Act (SB 391) (394 KB)
Sponsored by Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) & 14 cosponsors (8-D, 1-I, 5-R) "Healthy Americans Act - Requires each adult individual to have the opportunity to purchase a Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plan (HAPI), which is: (1) a plan offered by a state; or (2) an employer-sponsored health coverage plan. Makes individuals who are not enrolled in another specified health plan and who are not opposed to coverage for religious reasons responsible for enrolling themselves and their dependent children in a HAPI plan offered through their state of residence. Sets forth penalties for failure to enroll."
Date Bill Sponsor(s) CRS* Description of Individual Mandate 1. Nov. 20, 1993
(date introduced) Consumer Choice Health Security Act (SB 1743) (624 KB)
(date introduced) Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act (SB 1770) (1.6 MB)
(date introduced) Healthy Americans Act (SB 334) (427 KB)
(date introduced) Healthy Americans Act (SB 391) (394 KB)
what with all the substantiated and well supported claims, how could anybody endlessly and pointlessly blurt out BS political hogwash or just flat out insult each other...??
and i didn't bait and switch anything.
munch said "the day the heritage foundation endorses obama, i will vote for him"
well, what about when obama endorses a heritage foundation idea?? what would you say then??
i went ahead and showed you PROOF that obama moved towards the center of the political isle. you might want to argue some sort of ideological, existential, metaphysical and philosophical nonesense but i have no business discussing theory. you claim obama is some sort of crazy socialist. and that is just not the case.
and i didn't bait and switch anything.
munch said "the day the heritage foundation endorses obama, i will vote for him"
well, what about when obama endorses a heritage foundation idea?? what would you say then??
i went ahead and showed you PROOF that obama moved towards the center of the political isle. you might want to argue some sort of ideological, existential, metaphysical and philosophical nonesense but i have no business discussing theory. you claim obama is some sort of crazy socialist. and that is just not the case.
Jack Fate
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At this point, Obama might say anything to get re-elected. If he repeals the health care bill, hell, I might even vote for him.
Obama’s job bill is basically a promise to cut taxes by raising them.
It will increase taxes on corporate jet owners by a total of $3 billion, on capital gains by $18 billion, on oil and gas companies by $40 billion, and on individuals making over $200,000 a year by a total of $400 billion (over ten years)
“Time for the wealthy to pay their fair share.”And the tax on capital gains is nothing less than highway robbery. It will be done by categorizing some capital gains from hedge funds as income, thus allowing them to be taxed (in upper tax brackets) at more than twice the normal 15% tax currently in place for capital gains.
Does it still sound like the American Jobs Act of 2011 is about cutting taxes and creating jobs to you?
It will increase taxes on corporate jet owners by a total of $3 billion, on capital gains by $18 billion, on oil and gas companies by $40 billion, and on individuals making over $200,000 a year by a total of $400 billion (over ten years)
“Time for the wealthy to pay their fair share.”And the tax on capital gains is nothing less than highway robbery. It will be done by categorizing some capital gains from hedge funds as income, thus allowing them to be taxed (in upper tax brackets) at more than twice the normal 15% tax currently in place for capital gains.
Does it still sound like the American Jobs Act of 2011 is about cutting taxes and creating jobs to you?
UncleBuck
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are we seriously exempting $300 million per year on corporate jets?
that is $3 per tax paying american.
we could ask every tax payer in america to cough up $3 to help with the debt/deficit, or we could just do away with the corporate jet loophole.
it all depends on your values, i guess.
not class warfare, just math (as the exalted one says).
UncleBuck
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as i said to start, he governs very centrist, unless you happen to be one of those people shouting about how passing heritage foundation ideas is socialism.
for best results, compare to nixon, reagan, eisenhower, etc.
And as I said, sucking dick does not make somebody a centrist.
When Barack Obama says his jobs program is paid for that what he really means is you’ve paid for his jobs program. Talked inside his $447 billion jobs program that will put union construction workers back on the job temporarily, and teachers back on the job temporarily, and those of you who were unemployed still unemployed but with more unemployment checks.
It’s become almost comical at this point. In December the president agrees with Republicans that you can’t raise taxes in the middle of a recession. In particular the president then pointed out the fact that it would hurt small businesses. But that was then and this is now and the president is pandering to his union base and somebody has to pay for his union jobs program.
It’s become almost comical at this point. In December the president agrees with Republicans that you can’t raise taxes in the middle of a recession. In particular the president then pointed out the fact that it would hurt small businesses. But that was then and this is now and the president is pandering to his union base and somebody has to pay for his union jobs program.
The big joke on everyone is that it isn't really "paid" for. The money has been financed at interest, by the time its paid off it will have cost the US Taxpayer multiples of times more.
Then there is the case Boeing Aircraft company, who is completing a brand new factory in South Carolina (a right to work state), to manufacter its new 787 Dreamliner, which will bring 1,000 new, desperately needed, good jobs to the state.
Lafe Solomon-General Counsel for the U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), is bringing a lawsuit against Boeing, claiming they are in violation of union agreements in Washington state, which the NLRB views as Boeing as acting in retaliation against the unions.
Lafe Solomon-General Counsel for the U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), is bringing a lawsuit against Boeing, claiming they are in violation of union agreements in Washington state, which the NLRB views as Boeing as acting in retaliation against the unions.
"Businesses are smarter than government,” said South Carolina Republican Sen. DeMint. “The next time Boeing has a move, they won't move to South Carolina or a right-to-work state. They'll move to china or somewhere else… that's the signal this administration is sending."
The weekly jobless claims report came out with 428,000 people filing for first time unemployment benefits, which was significantly higher than the 412,000 economists had expected; and, the 414,000 figure from last week was adjusted up to 417,000, according to Rueters.
More important however, as a Bloomberg chart helps to illustrate, is the fact that the 4-week moving average figure rose from 415,500 to 419,500, a distinct upward trend, which began when President Obama began touting his highly-hyped jobs plan
More important however, as a Bloomberg chart helps to illustrate, is the fact that the 4-week moving average figure rose from 415,500 to 419,500, a distinct upward trend, which began when President Obama began touting his highly-hyped jobs plan
deprave
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Looks like they are breaking out the big guns for Ron Paul...this is a threat to Ron Paul's campaign...I am a nader fan myself he is a champ, he will take independent aka left-leaning libertarian and progressive votes...That is if they aren't already onboard the Ron Paul Revolution.
I think the establishment is very afraid of Ron Paul. I will still vote Ron Paul, The good doctor has a way better chance then nader.
I think the establishment is very afraid of Ron Paul. I will still vote Ron Paul, The good doctor has a way better chance then nader.