STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!
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puffenuff
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Maybe later. I'm feeling lazy and kind of don't want to.
Clonex
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well , talk is cheap in that case - peace !
DinafemHashPlant
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Look at PUFFs journals...
Corbat420
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it would be good if you would post a Link to such things. instead of just hurling insults.
generaly when you insunt someone on the forums you want to fill the gap for there incompetence......
Link: https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/443986-snow-dream-coco-led-closet-4.html Post#61 has some good shots of bud growth close to harvest. it looks decent, 95% Marketable i would say.
using these lights you COULD get 100% marketable buds if you had a little more light, and trimmed off a larger portion of the undergrowth..... but it might come at a cost of Weight > Time. and thats ALOT of lights for 2-3? plants..... a comertial grow my size would need to use 3,300 Watts, compaired to the 2,000 Watts of HID i currently use..... it actually uses MORE power then my HID's at the larger scale.... and my two 4x8 rooms are NOTHING compared to Collective Growers 20,000 Watt room.
@Puffenuff how many days of veg? how many days of flowering? whats the "recommended" flowering time?
Clonex
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Talk without pictures = talk is cheap - it was no insult - please refrain from calling me a dip shit - i've no-doubt you were beating your chest whilst you typed that remark making Tarzan noises, his grow size is in no way comparable to what has been the main discussion of this thread , its not my issue if ppl dont read the bulk of the thread , i know its tough with ppl like you ranting away , but please , do try and make a effort!!
Clonex
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puffenuff
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Thanks for throwing up the link to my old ladies. Decent is an understatement, especially for a 95% rating. The quality of it really turned out to be some killer stuff. I don't know why you keep talking about marketable because that's not my goal. I grow for personal only. I show people and they all want some, so, yes, it is very marketable. I haven't had one person say it wasn't good.
I didn't trim off any undergrowth, so, as you can see from my pics in the journal, penetration was not an issue: the smallest nugs still were solid.
I agree that I could have gotten better results. And when I'm running the new 200w diamond series light for an entire grow (I only had it this time for the final two weeks) I expect to achieve that goal of mine. But in my book, a quarter pound off 180 watts has to be respected, does it not in yours?
If you have the right setup, you can achieve similar results to hid with a fraction of the wattage and in a smaller grow space. Just my opinion and I don't expect you to believe it either.
I vegged for 10 days after buying clones from the dispensary so I have no idea how big they were or how long they had been there. You can see from my journal that I measured them the day I got them up until the day I put them into flowering to see how well the lights do for vegging. They told me 8 weeks flowering time, but I let them go about 8.5 - 9 weeks, including the first day of switch and not counting flushing, because it's all personal preference when to cut them.
theexpress
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how dense are the led grown buds? also how much heat did your 200 watt led light put out? no ventiliation needed? just maybe a fan>?
Corbat420
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Im talking about Marketable because that is what this thread is about. we are talking about whether LED's can compete with HID's. to do that they have to be able to to be better than HID at commercial growing.
Me and Collective Gardener are commercial growers, he sells to a community of patients and i sell to mostly recreational users.....
For personal set-ups this may be nice. but i use marijuana growing to augment my income. i grow on the average 48 plants for my own selling / Smoking supply, with another house set up to do a larger operation of 100+ flowering Plants.... i DO Believe you that for up to 5 plants LED's can be better than HID's, but we are trying to find out if they are any models worth replacing out 1000W Units.
Flowering starts when the Maristem starts to develop Pistols. Harvest of 50/50 personal preferance.... Peak THC happens at 90% Cloudy and 10% Amber. THC is developed by the Trichome heads during the last stages of flowering and is produced through protecting the plant from UVB light. after 90/10 and its personal Preference, any time before that and its a waste of the Potential.... to long after that and your harvesting Nearly worthless CBN. THC Degrades into CBD degrades into CBN.
Edit: Read about it here: http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/inside-trichome
Considering it only took 70~ Days VERY Respectable. there was another guy on here that got 1.3 G/ W but it took him 85 days flower and 40+ days Veg!!! you do know what your doing when it comes to your personal supply, im definitely going to say that much.....
puffenuff
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Mine are dense just like any other, I mean, if I didn't tell you this was grown with leds then you wouldn't know the difference. Plus, there are other ways to achieve more density such as supplements and co2. Next time I will be adding a small amount of gravity based on a recommendation from a friend to see if there is a difference and if I had a sealed environment I'd be running co2 undoubtedly. The heat is minimal, maybe 2 degrees if that and the fans inside the panel blow the air upward and out. No ventilation is required nor was any used. All I had was a small 6 in. desk fan.
theexpress
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whats the best but most affordable largest watt led that will grow bud well?
puffenuff
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Thank you for the compliments. I didn't know this was a thread about commercial growing and I'm definitely not that. I just assumed it was another "Leds Suck" thread. I appreciate the knowledge you left in response to my comments as it was some sound scientific advice. But again, despite all that science, it is truly nothing more than personal preference at the end of the day.
As far as taking leds commercial, I have seen some pretty high wattage lights being sold, and one journal of a newly released 800w light going and I would say it goes toe-to-toe with 1k watt hps but that's just from me looking at a journal. I believe it to be true though based on my own experiences with leds...the way I look at is that they're just like any other form of lights that can be scaled to size.
virulient
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You're going to have to pay for a good light. There's no $150 solution for lighting like in HID.
virulient
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I think we can all agree there isn't an LED light that is commercial-grow worthy yet. It's just not there yet imo. I love LED's, but that's because I setup people with their one, personal little grow tent for personal supply. As of now, I don't grow as a business, or source of income, so LED's are exactly what the doctor ordered.