Obama's Contempt Bordering on Treachery

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Carne Seca

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The Mormon Church doctrine on homosexuality is that it is sinful behavior.

http://www.whatmormonsbelieve.org/homosexuality.html
Oh fuck me.. BEHAVIOR. As in actions. Do I have to beat the concept into your softened brain?

How in the Hell can I be a member in good standing if I was condemned for who I was? I can get a temple recommend and partake of the sacrament just like anyone else. I'm not sinning. 30 years, huh? I hope you didn't spend a lot of money on that.
 

Jack Fate

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Oh fuck me.. BEHAVIOR. As in actions. Do I have to beat the concept into your softened brain?
Yes, sinful behavior. Your church also teaches that homosexuality is to be overcome or you will not receive all the blessings. Did you know that?

So you are a Mormom homosexual. This doctrine deals with you. Why do you keep lying to me? Why do you call people "bigots" when your own church's teachings are the same as mine? Hypocrite.
 

Jack Fate

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he sees past the words

inception
Okay. Explain it to me. Go for it. Show me "inception" in this Mormon doctrine. Thanks

Mormons and Homosexuality


The Mormon Church is firm on its position condemning homosexuality as sinful behavior. One of the tenets of Mormon doctrine is the Law of Chastity. It permits sexual relations only between a husband and wife who are legally married. Marriage is a very important part of Mormon doctrine too. In the Mormon temple a couple can be married for eternity. This is part of living worthy to inherit the kingdom of God. The Mormon Church issued the document The Family: A Proclamation to the World in 1995. This official statement confirmed, "the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife." Increasingly, the Church has had to deal with the issue of Gay Mormons more and more as people identifying themselves as gay or lesbian have also continued to identify themselves as Mormon. Frequently, a gay or lesbian who has been raised a Mormon will disassociate themselves from the Church because of Mormon doctrines, but a gay Mormon community is growing. There are also many gay Mormons who wish to overcome their same-sex attraction in order to have a successful eternal marriage and gain all the blessings promised by the Lord. It is a long and difficult struggle to change one's sexual orientation, but despite the denial of many pro-gay groups and psychologists, there are many formerly gay Mormons that have done it. The Mormon Church will not bow to popular opinion that asserts because 'they were born that way', gays and lesbians should be permitted to live a homosexual lifestyle. The Mormon Church does not accept biological determination for same-sex attraction. The factors contributing to attraction are complex; it cannot be pinpointed to solely genetics or environment. But whether it is 'natural' or not, it is written in the Book of Mormon that the natural man is an enemy to God (Mosiah 3:19). It is a fundamental doctrine of the Mormon faith and the proper use of our moral agency to overcome the natural man and tame our appetites and passions. The tendency toward homosexuality is sometimes unfairly stigmatized but in Mormon doctrine is not treated any different than adultery, fornication, or any other sinful act. The natural tendency toward sin is no excuse. There are genetic theories for tendencies toward most anything, but the disposition toward any wrongdoing does not justify it or make it less sinful. Although temptation may be strong, self-mastery is a spiritual goal of the faithful, and any sinful act must be repented of. It is difficult to balance tolerance, without accepting or condoning what is a sinful practice, and demand obedience to the gospel without offending or alienating gay Mormons. The Mormon Church stands with other faiths in maintaining that homosexuality is a sin despite political and social pressures to "modernize." The highly politicized pro-gay movement has resulted in an equally concerted effort of the Mormon Church to condemn homosexuality. Sometimes this tension makes it difficult for families or church members to sympathize and give positive assistance and can cause an added stigma to gay Mormons. The Mormon Church has greatly increased its resources and training in recent years to properly address the issue of gay Mormons. The Church helps families support individuals that are attracted to their same sex, with patience, tolerance, understanding, and love, to overcome these temptations and help them live the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is written in the Book of Mormon that through the grace of Jesus weaknesses can become strengths (Ether 12:27) and the Mormon Church has documented cases of people overcoming same-sex attraction. Mormon General Authorities have dealt with the issue of gay Mormons frequently in the last few years. There are many support groups online as well. Evergreen International is one of the only known organizations for gay Mormons that completely support Mormon Church doctrine and policy. The topic of gay Mormons is a difficult one right now because of the swing of popular opinion toward acceptance, but the Mormon Church cannot compromise the laws of God and counsels those who wish to follow Christ but suffer from same-sex attraction to work to overcome it.
 

Carne Seca

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Yes, sinful behavior. Your church also teaches that homosexuality is to be overcome or you will not receive all the blessings. Did you know that?
Link, please. So I can debunk another bullshit statement of yours.

"People inquire about our position on those who consider themselves so-called gays and lesbians. My response is that we love them as sons and daughters of God. They may have certain inclinations which are powerful and which may be difficult to control. Most people have inclinations of one kind or another at various times. If they do not act upon these inclinations, then they can go forward as do all other members of the Church. If they violate the law of chastity and the moral standards of the Church, then they are subject to the discipline of the Church, just as others are" (Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign, Nov. 1998, 71).
 

Jack Fate

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Link, please. So I can debunk another bullshit statement of yours.
You haven't debunked anything. You lied to me when I asked you if the Mormon Church believes they are the only true church and I showed you they do with a link from the Mormon Church. I have them right here. Plenty more. You keep digging that hole deeper. It's fun to watch a hypocrite in action.

Your church also teaches that homosexuals are to overcome their homosexuality. Are you doing that?
 

Carne Seca

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First of all Jack, you're quoting from a non-LDS source. Second of all, these organizations may be grounded in the doctrine but they are not affiliated with the LDS church. The church is very specific about that. You're preaching to someone that went through four years of reparative therapy. I know from whence I speak. These are organizations that believe homosexuality can be overcome. Not the church. Try again.
 

Carne Seca

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You haven't debunked anything. You lied to me when I asked you if the Mormon Church believes they are the only true church and I showed you they do with a link from the Mormon Church. I have them right here. Plenty more. You keep digging that hole deeper. It's fun to watch a hypocrite in action.

Your church also teaches that homosexuals are to overcome their homosexuality. Are you doing that?
No you just won't accept what I tell you because you have an agenda and no proof or facts will dissuade you from it. Keep typing, hypocrite.
 
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