Supercropping and Canopy Control

[4tatude]

SWAG that ko looks to be a winner... with the genetics pushing behind should be a producer for a kush. me i like og, not a huge yielder but some #1 smoke for sure. gota love those rock hard nugs kush plants put out. subbed up bro sorry it took so long for me to get over here lol. i dont know how you keep the feeding flip harvest straight on so many strains. i like doing a couple runs of each so i can see if its me or the genetics working on the results. i lost a pheno by not cloning cause i didnt think it worthy, what a mistake as it turned out dank as shit n so pucking easy to grow. oh well live n learn right?

 

[Shwagbag]

SWAG that ko looks to be a winner... with the genetics pushing behind should be a producer for a kush. me i like og, not a huge yielder but some #1 smoke for sure. gota love those rock hard nugs kush plants put out. subbed up bro sorry it took so long for me to get over here lol. i dont know how you keep the feeding flip harvest straight on so many strains. i like doing a couple runs of each so i can see if its me or the genetics working on the results. i lost a pheno by not cloning cause i didnt think it worthy, what a mistake as it turned out dank as shit n so pucking easy to grow. oh well live n learn right?

Thanks for joining 4tatude! The feeding thing is fairly easy, I went to super soil for my flowering plants a while back. Most of my vegging plants get Jacks 20-20-20 and some worm castings here and there, maybe a little lime, keeps it very basic and simple. Super soil is nice because its 100% organic and it takes the guess work out of feeding to a degree. I still feed with additional organics after the halfway point but they don't really need any food until then depending on container size. Really helps with perpetual because everything eats something different all the time. I made that fail to clone mistake once too, I revegged her and she's back in flower again lol! I swear I could have even used the same container. I did top 44 once and it turned out not so good. I took a clone of her and gave her another shot and it turned out DANK. So here we are revegged and flowering again!

As for the flip and timing I use Herb.IQ and I love that shit. It keeps my plant count, family tree, days of seedling/clone/veg/flower. It def helps me keep my shit together and eliminates having to write anything down. For awhile I was mixing solution, recording PH and PPM, hand feeding, metering runoff PH and PPM then recording. I've definitely had strains not turn out due to mistakes but we all do! Just give them another run and try again, like you said live n learn Doing runs to pick phenos is the way to go without a doubt but I have too many strains I want to try lol. Hoping to expand another flowering room as soon as I have time this winter and I will most likely just run one or two strains through there using SoG.

 

[irishboy]

a friend grows sannies Killing Fields its fire! very very nice strain. he has all great strains and i also like Subcools allot. WW is a huge producer seen a lbs off of 400w and killer smoke if done right.

White Widow - Good smoke but not a huge producer and not the dankest of dank.

one WW plant vegged 10 days grown with 400w HPS its a great producer. that was also just grown with GH flora micro and bloom nothing els.

 

[4tatude]

a friend grows sannies Killing Fields its fire! very very nice strain. he has all great strains and i also like Subcools allot. WW is a huge producer seen a lbs off of 400w and killer smoke if done right.



one WW plant vegged 10 days grown with 400w HPS its a great producer. that was also just grown with GH flora micro and bloom nothing els.

very nice!! whose genetics?

 

[irishboy]

i dont remember? not my grow

 

[Ready2Inhale]

damn.............real nice...i hope i get a lb off my 400!

wishful thinking

 

[Shwagbag]

a friend grows sannies Killing Fields its fire! very very nice strain. he has all great strains and i also like Subcools allot. WW is a huge producer seen a lbs off of 400w and killer smoke if done right.



one WW plant vegged 10 days grown with 400w HPS its a great producer. that was also just grown with GH flora micro and bloom nothing els.

Thats real nice! I don't get anywhere near hydro growth rate or yields though and my plants never get that large in my conditions. I would like to do some hydro this winter though to see how I can do. The phenos of WW I've grown out have been pretty good just not comparable to some of the others I've been able to achieve better yields with. Some of my friends have told me that they like my WW very much but I prefer Ice & PPP, my two favs for yield and the Ice is just as potent IMO. I find that I need a much longer veg with the WW to get comparable yields to the plants I've had more success with. A lot of the difference can be genetics though. I've only grown 3 or 4 plants from seed and didn't exactly have the opportunity to select my favorite, just randomly ended up cloning from one. I do like WW, just have to choose what is best for my tiny space and conditions.

That plant is gorgeous and well managed thanks for sharing that.

On a side note I rolled a joint of KF for my weekend up north and I can't hardly even smoke that shit lol. I take like 2 tokes and I'm blown right the eff out. Over half a jib left when I got home LOL.

 

[Jozikins]

Dude, I wanna smoke your KF! If my garden wasn't so packed with random clones to sample right now I would fucking order some seeds of that right promptly.

 

[irishboy]

that pic just goes to show how important it is to have a dialed in room. many want to buy $300 worth on nutes because they think they will get those huge buds but at the end its more of the room that matters.

ive seen killer WW before but mainly at the clubs its been weak! same as blue dream and thats a killer strain.. either way i wish i could get some crazy strains that you have.lol

 

[Jozikins]

Hey man, can you give me an overview of your nursery and how you raise them. I don't know how, but I just can't raise a damn seedling anymore, this newest batch looks a million times better, but I fucked up the last 2 batches. It's funny, because my first grow attempt ever was with seeds and I did a stellar job raising them, and a few times through out my next few grows I raise a few successfully, but it's been a year since my last attempt, at least last successful attempt.

 

[Hydrotech364]

Start taking cuttings Joz.

 

[Jozikins]

Start taking cuttings Joz.

Cuts are all I've been doing for a long time now, that is why I've lost my touch. But I spent a few hundred bucks on seeds, and I just finished cropping a seeded plant I intentionally pollinated and got 350+ seeds off of it. So I got wayyyy too many dank seeds to just set aside. Speaking of cuts, I just picked up a few really dank new ones. But I'm super fucking bummed, I had a 3x3 scrog going on with 3 plants, 2 of which were sexed by clone, the other clone died immediately after going into 12/12 so I never figured it out, turns out it was fucking male! God dammit, there goes 1/3 my scrog, it's still dripping all over the place, it was feeding as I chopped it. Makes me sad as fuck.

So I guess that was 1 successful seed attempt that was about 2 months ago, but since then it has been failure with trying seeds. These are all amazing fucking monsters, almost tempted to post pics, it's such a fucking shame I had to chop one down. Luckily it's only 5 days into flower so I can replace it with something without too much loss in yield. But god damn, this plant was beautiful.

 

[Shwagbag]

Cuts are all I've been doing for a long time now, that is why I've lost my touch. But I spent a few hundred bucks on seeds, and I just finished cropping a seeded plant I intentionally pollinated and got 350+ seeds off of it. So I got wayyyy too many dank seeds to just set aside. Speaking of cuts, I just picked up a few really dank new ones. But I'm super fucking bummed, I had a 3x3 scrog going on with 3 plants, 2 of which were sexed by clone, the other clone died immediately after going into 12/12 so I never figured it out, turns out it was fucking male! God dammit, there goes 1/3 my scrog, it's still dripping all over the place, it was feeding as I chopped it. Makes me sad as fuck.

So I guess that was 1 successful seed attempt that was about 2 months ago, but since then it has been failure with trying seeds. These are all amazing fucking monsters, almost tempted to post pics, it's such a fucking shame I had to chop one down. Luckily it's only 5 days into flower so I can replace it with something without too much loss in yield. But god damn, this plant was beautiful.

What kinda light are you using for your seedlings Jozi? I just use T5's, I germinate in paper towels until I get about a 1" root then transplant to solo cups or pots. I like T5's because I can get the light right down on the seedlings without burning them and they can grow compact. Will check back in tonight. Have a good day peeps.

 

[matatan]

Hey man, can you give me an overview of your nursery and how you raise them. I don't know how, but I just can't raise a damn seedling anymore, this newest batch looks a million times better, but I fucked up the last 2 batches. It's funny, because my first grow attempt ever was with seeds and I did a stellar job raising them, and a few times through out my next few grows I raise a few successfully, but it's been a year since my last attempt, at least last successful attempt.

thats funny becuase im the opposite, i do great from seed and cant clone for the life of me lolol i honestly dont kno what the fuck im doing wrong but all the clones iv taken have limped/leaned over and fail.

 

[Shwagbag]

thats funny becuase im the opposite, i do great from seed and cant clone for the life of me lolol i honestly dont kno what the fuck im doing wrong but all the clones iv taken have limped/leaned over and fail.

My cloning rate is up and down bad! I've been using the schultz powder and a mixture of 50% coco & 50% FF Happy Frog with good results recently PH water to 6.5 and spraying with a foliar mixture of Dynagro KLN with a little bit of lime.

I prefer seed but nothing beats the ease of taking a cutting from a proven producer. I have PPP and Crystal plants that have been through 7 or 8 cycles now.

 

[Hydrotech364]

My routine is basic.I use Rapid Rooter's.100% every time.So many "How To Clone" thread's I'm not gonna put another one in.Few hints though.I dont PH my water,I take large cutting's and I never spray the cutting,not even once.If you feed her through her leaves she doesn't have a reason to root.Constant temp's no variation.

 

[mugan]

well his is that plant from last time, been flowering for 3 weeks, looks healthy and the tops follow the sun like satellite dishes through out the day

 

[matatan]

 

[Shwagbag]

Very nice guys, bend'em but don't break'em! looking real nice. Lets see some flowers! Thanks for keeping the thread going.

 

[Dubbz0r]

This thread will never die!

When I start my next grow I'll be all over this method again.