Abortion.

sorry i couldnt handle the mental shit of an abortion, if she ever got one id go further into a depleted mental state. my step brother is dead cool guy all around i see so many guys that look like him. thats bad enough facing the fact a child that could have been. that hurts just to think of i am a dude that being my child no no no
 
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silasraven said:
come on its a person from the moment a sperm hits the egg. at that point its making its ways to getting a personality(in detail) getting its feet and arms planted you would take a little embro you got growing in its first week and kill it would you?
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How the hell is it a person? It literally shares almost nothing in common with a person, it's a clump of multiplying cells. It doesn't have organs, or consciousness, or thought, or a body for that matter... it doesn't have any of those things until it actually develops the organs far enough along to use them properly.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
you go on like the woman is the only one in the equation , yes she has to give birth to the baby ( wich i would of done given the choice ) but the male has just as much responsibilty as the mother , without either the baby would never of been possible , and i happen to believe men go through just as much mental stress as the woman .
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Of course this would be very difficult for the sperm donor(male) to deal with, I don't think i ever said otherwise , but it comes down to who's body the fetus is growing in when abortion is in question. Would u let someone decide what u can and can't do with ur body? How about this (just a random exemple lol) u meet ur dream girl and ends she is knocked up, 2months the man she was with forces her to have the child because he wants it, but she claims he was very abusive and she had to get away for her safety, how would this make u feel as a male? (if u are one lol sorry assuming ;) ) I know pretty extreme exemple lmfao but I very curious as to why men think they have equal if not more say over a womens body??????? U don't own it, u just donated sperm, if u did not want children then u could have taken all sorts of measures to try and prevent this, but if it does happen i feel a mans rights only come into play as equal parent after the child is born. When the bun is brewing inside me IT BELONGS TO ME!!! lol
 
Like I said earlier that the pro-lifers are trying to get some birth control pills banned because they allow fertilization, but not implantation. Is that abortion to you?
Beefbisquit said:
Ok, so at least we made a distinction between a sperm, and a fetus.

From what I've gathered so far from this discussion, is it's more about the "possibility" of a person than anything else. It's not a person, but it will be.


That doesn't make a compelling argument to me whatsoever. It's admitting, outright, that the embryo/fetus to a certain point isn't a human. We don't give animal rights to eggs, because they're not animals.... they're eggs. Just like we don't give human rights to human eggs and embryos, because they're not human.
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fuck all pro choice....IM PRO LIFE IF YOU DNT WANNA KID DONT HAVE SEX PLAIN AND SIMPLE,,,,,IT S NOT THE BABYS FAULT HE OR SHE HAS BEN CONSIVED Y KILL THEM ITS MUDER PLAIN AND SIMPLE PUT THE DRS. IN JAIL THAT PRACTICE IT,,,,,,,,,
 
fdd2blk said:
so a "couple" can't walk down this road together?

how selfish.
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I'm only selfish with my cookies and milk chocolate!!

Yes if the man wants his opinions and views heard the women should certainly listen and make her choice based on his feelings and views if they are happy together(see this is why i don't do casual or random sex) but if abortion is already being talked about then how could this couple be on the "right path" or even ready??? Having a child should not include debating it's existence to begin with, both parents should be overwhelmed with excitment and fear but not question if they should even have it. Most couples are devastated if they loose the child. So saying that i feel that if abortion is being talked about then ultimately he will not influence her choice (unless this was her way of getting a ring)
 
april said:
I'm only selfish with my cookies and milk chocolate!!

Yes if the man wants his opinions and views heard the women should certainly listen and make her choice based on his feelings and views if they are happy together(see this is why i don't do casual or random sex) but if abortion is already being talked about then how could this couple be on the "right path" or even ready??? Having a child should not include debating it's existence to begin with, both parents should be overwhelmed with excitment and fear but not question if they should even have it. Most couples are devastated if they loose the child. So saying that i feel that if abortion is being talked about then ultimately he will not influence her choice (unless this was her way of getting a ring)
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you can't imagine one situation where a man and a women would decide TOGETHER? :neutral:


i really have nothing to say to that.
 
father&son said:
fuck all pro choice....IM PRO LIFE IF YOU DNT WANNA KID DONT HAVE SEX PLAIN AND SIMPLE,,,,,IT S NOT THE BABYS FAULT HE OR SHE HAS BEN CONSIVED Y KILL THEM ITS MUDER PLAIN AND SIMPLE PUT THE DRS. IN JAIL THAT PRACTICE IT,,,,,,,,,
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Whats about victims of sexual assault? should they be forced to raise a possible rapist or even worse? how could this women ever love this child ?? she would hate herself for not being able to be a mother, I hope ur daughter,mother,sister, any female u love is never raped, let me guess u toss them into the "tainted pile" lol Better yet lets hope u never get bent over lmfao, sorry but people like u make me laugh, get off ur horse and face reality.I wish i could murder ur narrow views ;)
 
april said:
Whats about victims of sexual assault? should they be forced to raise a possible rapist or even worse? how could this women ever love this child ?? she would hate herself for not being able to be a mother, I hope ur daughter,mother,sister, any female u love is never raped, let me guess u toss them into the "tainted pile" lol Better yet lets hope u never get bent over lmfao, sorry but people like u make me laugh, get off ur horse and face reality.I wish i could murder ur narrow views ;)
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being a victim of sexual assault causes one to have rapist babies?

are you drunk again? :?
 
april said:
Whats about victims of sexual assault? should they be forced to raise a possible rapist or even worse? how could this women ever love this child ?? she would hate herself for not being able to be a mother, I hope ur daughter,mother,sister, any female u love is never raped, let me guess u toss them into the "tainted pile" lol Better yet lets hope u never get bent over lmfao, sorry but people like u make me laugh, get off ur horse and face reality.I wish i could murder ur narrow views ;)
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This guy, Kenneth Knippel of Wausau, Wi, was an offspring of rape. His mom was raped by her brother and since she was young was forced to keep it.

He grew up to sexually assault over a dozen women and left one for dead after raping her with a crowbar.
 
fdd2blk said:
you can't imagine one situation where a man and a women would decide TOGETHER? :neutral:


i really have nothing to say to that.
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Unless her being pregnant could kill her i can't see very many situations that justify abortion, adoption seems like a better idea in many situations, my mom and step brother are adopted, hell if my grandmother had gotten an abortion (she was 13 and a whore lmfao) i would not be here FDD ;)

If i was a man and my wife had an abortion without consulting me i would probably leave her!!!! But again i ask the question why men think they have the right to an opinion on what a women does with her body!!!! Regarless of my relationship status my body is my own, will never belong to anyone, i might allow someone to pleasure me and themselves by touching it but they will never own it I feel that the baby they create together is what they share equally
 
april said:
Unless her being pregnant could kill her i can't see very many situations that justify abortion, adoption seems like a better idea in many situations, my mom and step brother are adopted, hell if my grandmother had gotten an abortion (she was 13 and a whore lmfao) i would not be here FDD ;)

If i was a man and my wife had an abortion without consulting me i would probably leave her!!!! But again i ask the question why men think they have the right to an opinion on what a women does with her body!!!! Regarless of my relationship status my body is my own, will never belong to anyone, i might allow someone to pleasure me and themselves by touching it but they will never own it I feel that the baby they create together is what they share equally
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so what if you weren't here.

in all honesty.

so what if none of us were here.



your body, your right. until you DEMAND child support.
 
fdd2blk said:
people who could be born by anyone.

some of the worst killers have come from the nicest homes.
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True. If I was a rape victim that was impregnated I wouldn't take the chance though and that right should never be taken away from a woman if ever in that situation.
 
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