Beansly
RIU Bulldog
First of all....Dude you DON'T know me, but I will clear you assumptions up...The only reason I know of Green House Seed Company is because I went to the Attitude looking for seeds. Unlike you and a few others I don't dick ride a company just because what a person or two did at a company. All that bullshit about who "created" this or that means a hill of beans to me. A breed is just another breeder. I mean how hard is it to put to strains together and make a new/different strain? You're talking this non sense about philosophy and attitude? All that means NOTHING to a grower! Either their seeds are good or they are not.
It's amazing that you and a few other think this company is "the" breeder when they don't even offer FEMINIZED seeds. Hell, even KC Brains offers FEMINIZED seeds now, but Mr. Nice is suppose to be "all that".
1. What does this guy going to jail have to do with me buying and growing his seeds. Anyone here at RIU forums can get busted at anytime so this guy is no better than anyone of us. You are just as silly as they people that think 50 cent is "gangsta" just because he got shot before.
2. That circle did not do anything that would have been done eventually. You act as if these guys are "gods" CREATING something that wasn't in nature already.
3. Who cares what Shantibaba created. Some guy created the iron along time ago, but look how the iron has been IMPROVED. Their are digital irons with auto shut off and etc. Should we dick ride that made the first iron while others have taken the invention and made it BETTER? I guess we all must agree that FORD makes the "best" cars since they were the first to make one. Get the fuck outta hea'.
4. Dude, their are other companies that sell inxepensive seeds. Look at KC Brains. You can get a pack of 10 seeds for 10.99 Euro. The cheapest Mr. Nice seeds you can get at the attitude is a pack of 18 Walkabouts for 20.99 Euro. Everything after that is 30.99 Euros or more. How is that great value? 30.99 for REGULAR seeds? No one knows what ratio you will get of female/male plants. I'd much rather spend 14-17 Euros for 5 FEMINIZED seeds first. Green House offers Super Bud, Exodus Cheese, and etc, for cheaper. Female Seed Company offers White Widow, Pure AK, and etc. for roughly 14-15 Euros for FEMINIZED seeds!
PDF file? Are you serious? Green House Seeds offer more information than Mr. Nice. They have a catalog....VIDEO GROWS.....They even show you how to germinate their seeds for those that don't much about growing. They also GUANRANTEE that their seed will germinate or they will REPLACE them. Female Seeds offer the same GUANRANTEE. I had a issue with a few Female Seeds Co strains and they shipped me replacements eventhough I bought my seeds from The Attitude. FMS don't usually ship to the US, but they did for me. Does Mr. Nice offer the same customer service? I hope so. I got my Mr. Nice seeds today and if all of them don't germinate then I will want them replaced....
Bump.. the important thing about the early breeders like at Mr Nice is this: It's not just that they and some others "did it first", but that if someone wants to buy, for instance, White Widow that won the prizes in the early 90s, only Mr Nice has it, since Shantibaba found the parents, hybridized them and has exclusively held onto them. For white widow (called black widow by Mr Nice) to still be offered, the original parents must be kept alive, which takes dedication and maybe some luck. When one is lost that will be the end of white widow seeds. You cannot recreate the hybrid from the F2's (children) of a WW plant, thus it's impossible for another seed bank to offer actual white widow seeds, unless they got access to the parents.
The same can be said for Super Silver Haze since Nevil Shoenmaker (sp?) specifically developed parent lines which now no one else has access to, refined lines of NL, skunk, haze etc. Being first has advantages in this business, or actually getting out in the field like Reeferman was known for, or Mike and Jasmine of Mandala seeds, or Ace breeders, and a few other. Pretenders obviously everywhere copying popular strain names but not the strains.
I'm sorry. I didn't realize this conversation was still going on or I would've responded a long time ago instead of starting a 3 month old fight again.Have you lost your mind? Mr Nice and others that are true breeders don't offer Feminized seeds b/c they are a junk and may one day ruin the gene pool. You need a male and a female to have true breeding genetics. The fact that you even wrote that shows me your lack of research and knowledge of cannabis. If anything not offering FEM seeds show's the dedication and commitment they have to Cannabis. Why people pay more for Feminized (herminized as far as I'm concerned) crap seeds as opposed to Reg (true breeding) seeds I will never understand. You need to show a little more respect to the people who went out of their way to create the strains we know today, as just about every single strain today has lineage from Mr. Nice and crew. To the OP personally I would get some Mr. Nice seeds, but have heard good things about Sannies.
A quote from Subcool of TGA Seeds (who also doesn't sell feminized seeds).
Source:
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil-106.html#post5341900
You guys are being nicer than I am that's for sure, but you shouldn't waste your time. His three reply rant to my statements has proven more to me about his little mind-state than any real conversation would.
You think that feminized seeds proves something? Laughable.
Nevil (and a lot of other less famous breeders) was working on feminzied seeds in the 80's, before they were even given the fancy marketing moniker of "feminized" and they were just called "selfed" you twat. And for the record sport, they're offering test seeds of the medical line they're working on (Z series), and you have the option of getting them feminized.
I could go on breaking down you silly little argument pal, but the shit you say is so ignorant that any seasoned head can tell your just a fool. I don't really need to argue with you. Your words are my argument.
What happened btw, where's these smoke reports anyways?
Did the mango haze blow your mind? It's one of the best smokes in the world. Sister of Super Silver Haze.
Can't stand being wrong can you?
And in case you didn't know, Reeferman was a leader in the KKK. Not just a member. ONE OF THEIR LEADERS.
Unless you like to associate with the KKK also?
That's why company philosophy is important little boy, when you don't know who you're buying seeds from, you end up supporting the KKK or assholes like Marc Emery.
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