Killing my plant

tokenbrownguy

Active Member
Well, to anyone who may be familiar with my first ever grow, it turned out to be a healthy male...lol...lessons learned:
Don't buy products from Amsterdam marijuana seeds
Don't use crappy soil
ALWAYS germ more seeds than you need to
Sexing is IMPERATIVE if you are on a tight truncated timeline
Don't buy products from Amsterdam marijuana seeds
Don't use crappy fertilizer
Don't buy products from Amsterdam marijuana seeds
DONT BUY PRODUCTS FROM AMSTERDAM MARIJUANA SEEDS
...and despite the fact that it was a male, for a first time grower of ANYTHING, I have a pretty green thumb! :lol:
 
I know how it feels man, I just had to cut down 3 male Wonder Woman that I had been growing for the past 6weeks!!! I could tell they were males 10days into flowering!!!
 

tip top toker

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I assume you bought feminized seeds to justify the repeat of don't buy from em message. Although you also mention lots on sexing and such so sounds like you had reg seeds.

So why should we stay away from that place?
 

tokenbrownguy

Active Member
Well, I ordered fem WW seeds from them. I germed 4 of them. I had one viable, and that turned out to be male. Not a 'herm', but 100% male. I've contacted ( attempted to) the company on multiple occasions, starting with the extreme delay in the reception of my seeds. I have NEVER been able to contact a voice at their company. Now, still with no avail, I have contacted ( attempted to) the comoany just to ask more about the product ( to try and see if it is indeed the product or my mishandling their product somehow that caused the 'feminized seed to grow male). I will never order a thing from this company again. I am so disenchanted with them. I've ordered recently from nirvana, and they have kept me up to par on each step of this process. When comoaring services, already the choice is ckear. Any company > AMS.
 

tokenbrownguy

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I assume you bought feminized seeds to justify the repeat of don't buy from em message. Although you also mention lots on sexing and such so sounds like you had reg seeds.

So why should we stay away from that place?
Exactly, I bought fem seeds...also, sexing BC i LST it, and have come to learn that stress can make a fem seed turn 'herm'. So i vegged and LST, but no her, just male...shitty.
 

tokenbrownguy

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I never stated I called for germ questions...I called specifically for genetics info. I also stated that the others weren't viable...that means they didn't stay alive...they lasted approx. Two weeks from seeds, never growing past first set of leaves, before dying.
 

tokenbrownguy

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I know now what their involvement is in the process, but they do advertise information for the specific strains. Thus, I guess this a part if the reason why I am a noob. Look, I'm just somebody who isn't satisfied with the product I bought. I'll take the loss, no problem. It cost me a small amount for a valuable lesson learned, that i will carry for as long as I live. If i can help one person decide to go another route to obtain this product, with the information provided, then I will. Why put uo with one cimpanys BS, when there are other, better companies out there? My bad, my lesson to learn, but I hold myself a bit responsible to share this knowledge/opinion/whatever anyone wishes ti call it with everyone here. You don't have to liste, but it is another opinion out there for one to ponder on while making similar decisions.
 

tip top toker

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I never stated I called for germ questions...I called specifically for genetics info. I also stated that the others weren't viable...that means they didn't stay alive...they lasted approx. Two weeks from seeds, never growing past first set of leaves, before dying.
That sounds like user error if i ever saw it. They sprouted, they were perfectly viable. Then you killed them.
 

tokenbrownguy

Active Member
That sounds like user error if i ever saw it. They sprouted, they were perfectly viable. Then you killed them.
And you're entitled to that opinion, by all means. And I am open to your criticism. I'm the only one who knows each specific detail, so i am the one who has all the info about the griw. Sure, I made mistakes along the way, I am a noob. But, I'm a noob, not an idiot. I know when I've been had, and when its my fault. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest, I'm just sharing my opinion. So what you will with it, my friend. I appreciate your input!
 

tip top toker

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And you're entitled to that opinion, by all means. And I am open to your criticism. I'm the only one who knows each specific detail, so i am the one who has all the info about the griw. Sure, I made mistakes along the way, I am a noob. But, I'm a noob, not an idiot. I know when I've been had, and when its my fault. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest, I'm just sharing my opinion. So what you will with it, my friend. I appreciate your input!
It was not an opinion, the seed germinated, how was it not viable? I just like folk to understand what is actually happening before they start warning against shopping somewhere. With regard to AMS it appears the only issue you hold with them is their lack of communication.
 

tokenbrownguy

Active Member
If that's what you ascertained from my thread, then cool. They werent viable BC of the crap genetics. There was no difference in the way any of the plants were griwn. There was ni variabe on mynend. The only variable is the seed, and the quality of genetics. From this information, one can logically predict that the company has a supply of crap seeds.
 

dannyboy602

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Anything coming from Amsterdam to the states is automatically suspect. I wouldn't want to chance it anyway. But thanks for the tip. I'll stick with the few that have sent quality beans.
 

sen.c

Active Member
Alot of things have to do with a plants sex when it comes to stress changes. Too much of one spectrum of light and not enough of the other during seedling stage, not enough nitrogen at seedling stage and so on. When you add those things into the mix and you are dealing with hybrid crosses and have no idea how stable they actually are the odds increase that you will get males with all taken into consideration.
 

lordjin

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If that's what you ascertained from my thread, then cool. They werent viable BC of the crap genetics. There was no difference in the way any of the plants were griwn. There was ni variabe on mynend. The only variable is the seed, and the quality of genetics. From this information, one can logically predict that the company has a supply of crap seeds.

Hey, planting seeds and getting them to grow isn't rocket science, so I'm gonna believe you, Tokenbrownguy. Those were bad seeds.

I've seen all kinds of weird shit with seeds. Now whether it was poor genetics or the seeds were just too old, I have seen seeds that crack a tap root to just die in the rockwool without growing. Now how many of you want to say it's because I'm a noob and I killed them?

That's right. So it can happen to anyone of any skill / experience level.

You were just unlucky this time, Tokenbrownguy. I feel that you got shittiy service and so it is your right to voice your opinion based upon what happened to you. Shit, I got stiffed on an over 200.00 order from none other than Attitude, the seed bank this site advertises... Do I feel bad or guilty for complaining about it here? Not one bit. I sent them my money and got nothing and heard nothing from them. It's as simple as that.
 

lordjin

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It was not an opinion, the seed germinated, how was it not viable? I just like folk to understand what is actually happening before they start warning against shopping somewhere. With regard to AMS it appears the only issue you hold with them is their lack of communication.
So all marijuana seeds in the world are perfect, and if you can't get it to grow it's your fault? Please.
 
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