difficulty of growing natural

[Sunbiz1]

Wolverine, you are the SHIT, man!! I wasn't even gonna post here until I saw yours. Urine will work, no doubt, but only as a last resort guys!! Go down to a local nursery or garden center and get a bag of Espoma BioTone Plus, a bag of their Bone Meal and some Kelp. Mix the BioTone and Bone meal into the soil at the beginning, from then on you only water them. Use the Kelp (or high P guano, if you prefer) as a supplemental tea. That will get you thru the entire grow, and easy as that. You should be into it for under $30.

I'll bet some company has already taken your idea, added their own soil, and is currently selling it for $18/bag....like molasses in bloom boosters!. BTW, thanks for sharing this...I had forgotten all about Epsoma. I use my own soil from the outdoor garden and amend, so my microbes are already present.

 

[snew]

so once i get my pc growbox built i'll be growing for the first time. i'm forced to go almost 100% chem free due to finances. how much harder is growing without chems as to with chems?

Growing organic cheap takes time and work. I have a large compost that cost me nothing but work, but I still add lots of other stuff to my grow. I believe the best cheap info on growing that I have found here is from Uncle Ben. His tread are easy to find.
As for buying less expensive, quality organics you can't beat Espoma. However, it ain't cheap. UB recommends Pete's Classic http://www.jrpeters.com/Home.html in chemical fertilizer you can find it most just about anywhere.
That said I'm committed to gardening organic and recommend we all do it.

 

[tip top toker]

$10 will get you enough chemicals to cover the entire grow and more which can then be sold so you cna buy whatever. If you do not have 410 to spare then maybe think about holding off on growing, as it tends to be a oney sucking hobby, always things to be bought and such.

 

[Jack Harer]

Sunbiz 1, THe Espoma BioTone Plus is their PlantTone with mycos and bennies in it.

 

[Wolverine97]

Sunbiz 1, THe Espoma BioTone Plus is their PlantTone with mycos and bennies in it.

It's good stuff. I use that on my outdoor garden.

 

[Jack Harer]

Before I switched to Bunny Poo, EWC and compost, I grew several amazing crops with it. It IS inexpensive, snew, and it's WAY less than say Advanced or any of the other uber hyped products out there, and probably IMHO better quality. Sure, a guy can pick up a bottle of Peters or MG for next to nothing, but it ain't organic, and chemical nutes WILL cause problems in soil like salt build up, especially for beginners. It's about the least expensive ORGANIC pre-packaged I have found out there.

 

[DIYguy]

I grew my outdoor plants in my backyard in the native soil (heavy clay) in the Bay Area of California with great results. Grew 4 varietals of OG Kush with a focus on being as organic as possible.

Soil Prep: Digging rows about 2 feet deep (used double dig method) 3 feet wide and 10 feet long.

Soil Amendments: I added a heaping layer of about 2-3 inches of HOMEMADE garden compost made from kitchen scraps and garden clipping from lawn and bushes etc. An 1-2 inch layer of cheap composted steer manure from my local super store at a single ONE dollar per 20 pound bag.

Fertilizer: Alaska Fish Emulsion from local super store. Used this during the vegging only. Miracle Grow Organic Choice ferts ramping up and down through season.

Water: I used tap water from the back yard hose. I filled garbage can with the water and let sit for 24-48 hours to help remove any chlorine. I never pH tested my water or water.

That' it folks. The plants albeit were started about a month and a half late into the season and still averaged about a quarter pound per plant. I'm not here to boast. All I want to get across is that you can be successful while using very little. I AM A TOTAL CHEAPSKATE. I was able to produce a pound and a half with a meager budget of less than a hundred dollars including the cost of the clones that were used. I've been to the hydro shop and I've seen friends spend $100 dollars on a single bottle of their fertilizer line-up.

Now I know that there are members that will tell you if you use ______ fertilizers you will produce and better yield or better product etc. Let me address you folks. I AGREE! I really do, but what is more important to the up and coming grower is to start simple so you have a base line for your future projects. I think your first grow is more educational than anything. I found my style as a grower, my own watering and feeding patterns, future garden layout and spacing and consideration for products I would like to add to feeding next year.

Most important messages to newbies, DON'T BE AFRAID TO FAIL!

If anyone has questions about my organic grow please let me know

-DIYguy

 

[Sunbiz1]

I grew my outdoor plants in my backyard in the native soil (heavy clay) in the Bay Area of California with great results. Grew 4 varietals of OG Kush with a focus on being as organic as possible.

Soil Prep: Digging rows about 2 feet deep (used double dig method) 3 feet wide and 10 feet long.

Soil Amendments: I added a heaping layer of about 2-3 inches of HOMEMADE garden compost made from kitchen scraps and garden clipping from lawn and bushes etc. An 1-2 inch layer of cheap composted steer manure from my local super store at a single ONE dollar per 20 pound bag.

Fertilizer: Alaska Fish Emulsion from local super store. Used this during the vegging only. Miracle Grow Organic Choice ferts ramping up and down through season.

Water: I used tap water from the back yard hose. I filled garbage can with the water and let sit for 24-48 hours to help remove any chlorine. I never pH tested my water or water.

That' it folks. The plants albeit were started about a month and a half late into the season and still averaged about a quarter pound per plant. I'm not here to boast. All I want to get across is that you can be successful while using very little. I AM A TOTAL CHEAPSKATE. I was able to produce a pound and a half with a meager budget of less than a hundred dollars including the cost of the clones that were used. I've been to the hydro shop and I've seen friends spend $100 dollars on a single bottle of their fertilizer line-up.

Now I know that there are members that will tell you if you use ______ fertilizers you will produce and better yield or better product etc. Let me address you folks. I AGREE! I really do, but what is more important to the up and coming grower is to start simple so you have a base line for your future projects. I think your first grow is more educational than anything. I found my style as a grower, my own watering and feeding patterns, future garden layout and spacing and consideration for products I would like to add to feeding next year.

Most important messages to newbies, DON'T BE AFRAID TO FAIL!

If anyone has questions about my organic grow please let me know

-DIYguy

I want a pound per plant, nothing less is acceptable...kidding. Thanks for sharing, great post!

 

[snew]

Sunbiz 1, THe Espoma BioTone Plus is their PlantTone with mycos and bennies in it.

Espoma now has Bio-tone added to the whole tone line-up.

http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/tones_overview.html

 

[Jack Harer]

http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/biotone_02.html

As explained to me by a company tech, the BioTone Plus has been encapsulated with way more innoculants than the regular tones. I asked if they were gonna apply that to all and he said that in they were looking at it in the future.

 

[snew]

http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/biotone_02.html

As explained to me by a company tech, the BioTone Plus has been encapsulated with way more innoculants than the regular tones. I asked if they were gonna apply that to all and he said that in they were looking at it in the future.

Thanks Jack