Finshaggy
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Damn. I'm in the middle. I wish it would be finished.like 4 more weeks
Damn. I'm in the middle. I wish it would be finished.like 4 more weeks
All mine are MG too. Some MG Soil, but then MG organic mostly. And I'm using some Blue granules too.same here bro i'm trying to have them done at the same time but don't know yet i got one that's almost there can't wait ALL IN MG 2 LOL
How do you plan 30 days ahead of time?The way I do it is do a flush once every 30 days and when I do it I do a 3 to 4 stage one with 2 to 3 parts in each.
The first 2 are for flushing and the last 1 or 2 is to PH the soil.
Nop just every 30 days its flush time. Helps keep control of the build up salts and scuh and the PH of the soil. If it has to be done before then because some thing happens and its needed then I do it but how weak I feed mine I'm not worried about PH problems in the soil for the 30 days.How do you plan 30 days ahead of time?
Purple Lady.finshaggy what strain is that?!
Amen Brick Top. How about you blow me. I'm just kidding
and I agree 100%. MG is not the best choice by any stretch but it's one of the cheapest. I like to get my nutes as much as possible from the compost heap and seaweed tea. I also piss on my compost heap but I don't think the tomatoes taste like wizz!!
MG is easy and cheap and no one can question that it works. Better alternatives you ain't kidding.
5 Products Better than Miracle Grow & under $10 At your local Home Depot
Ok so lately I've noticed lots of newbies Asking nutrient (aka nutes) Questions.
I consider Miracle Grow a vile nasty product that does more harm than good in most cases. The fact of the matter is it's so readily available and cheap thats what most newbies turn to. Considering newbies and miracle grow don't mix I decided to do some research on a few products that are just as available as MG (Miracle Grow) and much more beneficial.
All these products can be found at Home Depot, Lowes and sometime Wal-Mart.
First on the list for veg...
shultz 10-15-10 W/ micronutrients.
It is formulated to give all plants the essential primary nutrients and the micronutrients,
iron, manganese and zinc, they need for vigorous growth.
Sells for about $4.98
I usually start a half the recomemded amount and work my way up to full stregnth.
Also for veg. & all Organic
Epsoma Plant-Tone. $7.57
An all natural, all purpose premium plant food blend.
Long lasting, slow release feeding.
Complex blend of of the safest, finest natural ingredients available.
No sludges, fillers, or toxic ingredients are ever used.
This Product should only be used twice to three times during veg. Once again use half the recomended amount for the first feeding. Only use once a month.
This next product can be used once a month in conjuncton w/ your normal feeding schedule
Alaska Fish Fertilizer $5.48
Nutrient rich fish has been used as a fertilizer for centuries.
The pilgrims knew to bury fish in the soil to assure vigorous plant growth and plentiful h
arvests. Generations of gardeners have relied on Alaska Fish to give them all the
benefits of this traditional, time tested fertilizer in formulas that are easy and
convenient to use. Alaska Fish offers pure fish organic fertilizers in formulas that
gardeners want. Alaska Fish Fertilizer can be applied using a sprinkling can or clog
free hose end garden feeder. This product is for use in organic gardening. Use on all
indoor and outdoor plants. It is all purpose deodorized fish emulsion fertilizer that is
derived from seagoing fish. Also use half whats recomended.
For Flowering...
For flowering I've only found one really useful product, that can be found at all three stores...
Color Burst 15-30-15 $5.48
This I also cut the recommended amount in half. These are time release granules, but they are released by heat not water, so even if you over water the plants won't burn.
Lastly for people with soil ph problems...
Epsoma Organic Garden lime $3.97
The finest grade of pelletized, dolomitic limestone available.
Lime adjusts soil pH so plants can get the most from nutrients present.
Ok so I hope this helps someone out there with these questions. I'm still kind of a newbie myself but after actually trying these products myself it occurred to me to share my research. There are of course better more advanced products out there but these are common better than MG and they worked for me!!!
Oh i forgot...
Shultz has some good root hormone for cloning too!
Take root $4.98
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/212390-5-products-better-than-miracle.html
It is. Tastes flowery. Indica, Hindu Kush's kid.looks nice
Your a pretty funny old guy Brick and I resent the string remark. May be true, but I still resent it. I would also put Peter's on your list of acceptable water soluble nutes. Guys who use MG had better understand that it's value is very short lived. Fast action but leaches right thru. I will say you are right about using LESS than the recommended amount. You should ALWAYS use less. Like a fired bullet...You can't take it back. I would also recommend powdered rather than pelletized lime.
Lime is generally released very slowly I believe. Not sure what constitutes fast acting lime.If I'm going to use a fert that is not sludge based the epsoma products are pretty good. I use their little bags of gypsum in my outdoor holes. It's supposed to open up soils with a lot of clay. I am getting to the point where I think sharp sand does the same thing but I do know guys who use crushed drywall. Same thing I think and I do cringe when I pay for gypsum.
I don't know the color burst stuff but the Peter's 0-5-5 water soluble chit ain't bad for the buck. Like I said, most of my nutes come from teas and compost. I have enough fish heads, Lobster bodies, and skins in my compost but it still smells good after it gets cooked in the heap.
I am sitting here looking at a jar of Schultz's "Orchid Food" (19-31-17) and just can't figure out what it has that any other fert doesn't except a big price tag!. The jar does say derived from urea and urea phasphate which brings us back to pee.