wannabe grower
Well-Known Member
You ever think about continuing your flush with distilled by doing the last bit with a carbonated water or Hydrogen Peroxide to get some extra Oxygen to the root zone?
2 week old seedlings, growth is stunted.
- Thread starter Weedle1
- Start date
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
I could be wrong but wouldnt the H2O2 kill all soil life, im not totally sure though. Peace
Ringsixty
Well-Known Member
Tomorrow I'm buying some distilled water or spring water and transplanting them into 1 gallon containers, and then we'll wait and see. Thanks for all the help, I'll post pics tomorrow after the transplant.[/QUOTE]
JMO... At their present size. Why keep transplanting them into the next pot size bigger. Just put them in the final sized pot.. 3-5 gallon etc. Half the work and you don't have to stress the girls by continuing to transplant..
Unless your trying to mimic how the State, Feds and City workers get things done.... Just kidding
Just a suggestion... I'm no expert just a newbie too.
JMO... At their present size. Why keep transplanting them into the next pot size bigger. Just put them in the final sized pot.. 3-5 gallon etc. Half the work and you don't have to stress the girls by continuing to transplant..
Unless your trying to mimic how the State, Feds and City workers get things done.... Just kidding
Just a suggestion... I'm no expert just a newbie too.
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
JMO... At their present size. Why keep transplanting them into the next pot size bigger. Just put them in the final sized pot.. 3-5 gallon etc. Half the work and you don't have to stress the girls by continuing to transplant..
Unless your trying to mimic how the State, Feds and City workers get things done.... Just kidding
Just a suggestion... I'm no expert just a newbie too.[/QUOTE]
Putting a small plant in a big pot will just mean the roots grow straight down and will take a long time to estsblish in the rest of the soil. The action of the roots hitting the side of the container will have a small effect and promote the roots to spread futher up, airpots use this principle well. Also its hard to water a few roots in a lot of soil without getting overwatering problems. Roots are the predominant reason for soil drying. Peace
Sunbiz1
Well-Known Member
His aren't root bound, this one is.
crazyhazey
Well-Known Member
A small amount of H2O2 is good for healthy root systems but its a very small amount. And dont stress over buying water all the time, get yourself a few buckets and place them by ends of the gutters by your house if you want a lot of rainwater. also when they travel through the gutters in your house they pick up some beneficial minerals from the leaves. also you dont get water thats more aerated than rainwater, its natural and the pH is usually normal. If your having a problem with getting air to your roots you might want to make about a 2 inch layer of perlite above another 2 inches of soil so your roots dont start coming out of the pot.
and if theres a drought get some water from your hose and fill a bucket, within three day the sun should rid of chlorine and other harmful chemicals.
and if theres a drought get some water from your hose and fill a bucket, within three day the sun should rid of chlorine and other harmful chemicals.
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
This is half the problem with this site, my plant isnt rootbound it is perfect for a transplant, roots encircling the base three times on average is what to aim for, by the time roots have encircled the base three times i would assume they have also had the chance to establish in the rest of the soil.
Personally and professionally (as i can get growing) this is perfect, plant only a few days before started to show purpling on a couple of stems and marginly wilted leaves which indicated the start of not absorbing enough nutrients for its size, immediatly two days later i transplanted, whats the problem there, soil is exspensive so use it all.
I understand your statement and i mean no offence but i have to say push yourselves and your plants to perfection and the limits, commercial food growing relies on such small margins of error and perfection, go find them and achieve. A few years ago i wouldnt of been able to grow such a big plant in a reasonable sized container, those with higher skill levels would be able to grow much bigger in this container.
Dont be so set in the ways of others too, i dont need to transplant simply root prune, reduce foliage total mass accordingly and repot back in to the pot with fresh soil to replace the space left from the root pruning! Bonsai!
I want to push this out there for growers who seem so single minded and dead set, your told to flush but it isnt nescesary, your told to pH your water but with little consideration for true pH and ammoniacal nitrogen, your told to re-pot way too early! What other things crazy stuff have you been told.
I would not call my plants rootbound but ask you if you too transplant way before the plant actually displays and tells you it want transplanting or have cultural issues that force an early transplant, are not almost all my roots perfect and white (bar a slight browning in the upper right of the base of one pic? I have bigger plants with better and whiter root systems in the same size pots and have posted pics lots before. Peace
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
H2O2 oxidizes protein molocules using the free O2 radicle released when added to H2O or water/aqueous solution. All organic life is made of proteins even you and me. Pour H2O2 on your skin and it oxidizes it or turns it white, this is not really somthing id recomend for soil microbes and life, maybe in hydro where you dont want any thing living apart from your plant but in soil i kind of thought H2O2 would affect soil life in some way.
Wouldnt adding it to your water that you use for watering ahead of time to sterilise the water and then use it on your soil by which time i think the H2O2 might have changed to H2O and the extra O2 molocules evaporated or whatever they do, undoubtedly some might still be left in the water in small amounts, i dont think its meant for the soil though more the sterilization of water beforehand. Peace
crazyhazey
Well-Known Member
i forgot to include the hydro part my fault, advanced offers h202 for "healthy root systems", but i think ive used a very small amount in my water before and it didnt hurt.
Alright so I transplanted yesterday morning and I took pics right after the transplant, then I took pics this morning. There looking better, so this is very good.
I transplanted then watered about half gallon for each 1 gallon pot with distilled water.
Here are the pics, the first one is right after the transplant and the second one is from about 24 hours later.
I'm still worried about the one on the bottom right, there hasn't been much change and it's leaves are curling upwards and wrinkly.
I transplanted then watered about half gallon for each 1 gallon pot with distilled water.
Here are the pics, the first one is right after the transplant and the second one is from about 24 hours later.
I'm still worried about the one on the bottom right, there hasn't been much change and it's leaves are curling upwards and wrinkly.
Attachments
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
Let them be, what is done is done, some do look better though. Peace
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
Have you looked into H2O2 for soil more yet?? Peace
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
Leave them to use some of the nutrients in the soil first and establish roots. A couple of weeks then start the ferts again but maybe before that if they start growing well. Still just leave them to see what there doing. Peace
apbx720
Well-Known Member
weedle u said u let them dry out before watering again... u have to be really careful letting seedlings dry out. did u notice them wilting when they were dry? i let my seedlings dry out just 1 time during seedling stage and they got stunted like a mf for like 2 weeks. once seedling roots dry out they damage quickly. since roots dont repair themselves, the plant must wait till new roots grow before they continue developement. hope this helps. peace
Kingrow1
Well-Known Member
Spot on, under/overwatering and high temps/heat from the light are two things to get right before anything else, i cant stress this enough as they are the most limiting factors of any grow.
To everything in life there is a fine balance. Peace
So I figured I'd just give you guys an update and let you know there doing GREAT 
I still haven't watered yet since the transplant because it's still really moist, even on the very surface.
I'm still having problems with a couple of them but we'll just see how it goes.
I still haven't watered yet since the transplant because it's still really moist, even on the very surface.
I'm still having problems with a couple of them but we'll just see how it goes.
Attachments
HiIGrow
Member
In my opinion you should always let the soil dry out completly, regardless if you want to water or if you only have to water one plant, but decide to water all of them anyway.So I figured I'd just give you guys an update and let you know there doing GREAT
I still haven't watered yet since the transplant because it's still really moist, even on the very surface.
I'm still having problems with a couple of them but we'll just see how it goes.Attached Thumbnails
I would also say start using tap water...and give them some food! I give nutes to week old seedlings, the yellowing of the bottom leaves looks like the plant is feeding off those leaves. Nute lock wont happen without, Nute burn. Nute burn goes to the newgrowth more than anything and also starts with the tips. They are looking better though!