AZ. Patient/Caregiver greencard holders only..

[vfwvn]

Hmmm... Everything that I have been reading from users on RIU and other internet sites say that hydro produces better yields per plant than growing in soil does.. I think ease of growing depends on the grower. Kind of the "to each his own" method. Personally, I don't mind spending a bit of extra time and money on my plants if I feel like I am going to get more out of them. You are also making a hydro system sound complicated. Your opinion could also go the other way as an argument. If you want to mess around with pots, potting soils and mixing nutes and things into your soils, watering techniques and meters to monitor humidity/ temp etc then god bless you and wish you the absolute best.. See what I mean? It sounds like you are partial to soil, which is cool if that is what you feel best at, but at the same time it sounds like you are crapping on hydro systems...when hydro systems have proven results. Both in yield and veg/flower times. Potency( quality in your words) is really only affected by strain and people say taste is partly determined by hydro or soil grows. The other part is things added to the grows that can affect that a bit.

I still don't know exactly even know what your thread was trying to accomplish though. It sounds like you were trying to gain more card holders to grow for at first, and then the second thing you do is start shitting on Hydro growers then you repost and contradict or cover what you initially said. So you can see why they would get defensive. I have yet to do a single grow, so I am neutral to this. But I have decided to grow hydro as I think that is an easier concept for me and makes sense to me given my situations.

If you feel like soil is your medium and you do best at that.. Then that is great. But I don't think that coming on here stating an opinion, contradicting that opinion when people question you about it... and then being condescending "your beloved hydro" is going to win you any points.. Good luck though..

ok ok in my defense my original statement was as a rule, most hydro seems to be harvested way too soon (as most commercial grow ops) . And I believe most commercial grow ops do harvest too soon motovated by profit/shorter cycle, this is not a blanket statement, takes patience is all and I'd say most personal growers know when to chop em. Your exactly right about each to his own and each does, and yes I am very partial to soil for my style space and time.

My thread says greencard holders only... Alot of folks are totally in the dark on how or where to turn. I'd like to see as many people that can start now and with some patience and study with alittle effort most anyone can make an attempt at growing and start today with very little investment or commitment, some like yourself don't mind the extra and that's great and fun. There is so many variables to consider and explore. The more that start the more available meds for the needy. Heck I'm in heaven have my patients, all legal, give it all away no money ever and encourage everyone that can. oh I wish you the very best but really consider the soil system in 3 gallon pots, easy to move around turn and water. If you check out my last Amnesia Haze grow, it's a good example of my style.

 

[Philosophist]

Im growing in Baby seal carcasses!
Its WAY better than what you friggin nubs are doing.... Its so good, best meds ever. Twice as fast as hydro, and twice as organic as regular organic! Something about that baby seal goo medium that just brings out that taste....

screw pots, screw water, screw nutrients...

Club a cute baby seal(the cuter tha seal the higher THC!), poke a hole in its belly pop ur seed in.........
wait 6 weeks and BAM....a seal belly full of buds.....

really consider trying it....

 

[jjlongo]

I have used baby seal carcasses as pots successfully in the past. My only issue was how many crushed puppy noses i had to use in order to keep th PH in check.

 

[jayco420]

Leave it to phil. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

 

[combatdoc0315]

LOL.. You guys are sick sick sick.. HAHA!

 

[vfwvn]

Doesnt sound like it at all. You straight up typed " Most hydro grows seem to be harvested too early" Where did you get that info from? Personal opinion ? Maybe you didnt imply it but you typed it and on a message board that's what every user has to go by. So if trichome are what you look at for harvest why did you type " hydro seems to be harvested too soon?" Please elaborate. I'm a grown man not on here to fight just want you to clarify your claims.

hi... I typed exactly, "as a rule, most hydro seems to be harvested way too soon (as most commercial grow ops)". meaning the folks especially "commercial grow ops" seem to harvest to soon, and makes for second rate quality I believe, not meant as a blanket statement to all people everywhere, individual growers I'm sure know all about when to chop em. Most hydro is commercially maintained and harvested, I feel to early do to time and money pressures, Europe is much different they wait around alittle longer. Ofcourse with a million dollars worth of weed growing am sure it's pressure to get them cured and gone quick.. Perhaps I am wrong but I sure notice alot of fair looking and smoking weed totally... lacking. I am in no way attacking any method only promoting what I feel is an easy way to get growing and relieve the burden of patients... oh by the way are you a patent or caregiver or both? do you give alot away? I lay 1/8ths on folks all the time, so appreciated and fulfilling for me... I'd really enjoy meeting with some legal cardholders and compare and share somtime... peace..

 

[jayco420]

Legal patent and your post was a lil confusing. Not clowning ya but it sounded as if you were saying something other then what you are saying you ment. I think we all do it.

 

[BeaverHuntr]

hi... I typed exactly, "as a rule, most hydro seems to be harvested way too soon (as most commercial grow ops)". meaning the folks especially "commercial grow ops" seem to harvest to soon, and makes for second rate quality I believe, not meant as a blanket statement to all people everywhere, individual growers I'm sure know all about when to chop em. Most hydro is commercially maintained and harvested, I feel to early do to time and money pressures, Europe is much different they wait around alittle longer. Ofcourse with a million dollars worth of weed growing am sure it's pressure to get them cured and gone quick.. Perhaps I am wrong but I sure notice alot of fair looking and smoking weed totally... lacking. I am in no way attacking any method only promoting what I feel is an easy way to get growing and relieve the burden of patients... oh by the way are you a patent or caregiver or both? do you give alot away? I lay 1/8ths on folks all the time, so appreciated and fulfilling for me... I'd really enjoy meeting with some legal cardholders and compare and share somtime... peace..

I am only a patient. I'm not here to fight I'm here to help and give my input when needed, your post just came off as if you didnt know what you were talking about thats all everyone's been guilty of it glad you cleared things up and happy growing.

 

[Philosophist]

<---is here to fight

 

[Wolfhound]

vfwvn, Just wondering if you tap dance much ? Maybe your mostly into backpedalling ? What a strange way to open a thread . . .

 

[jayco420]

<---is here to fight

Yeah here to fight......don't mean he wins tho.

 

[vfwvn]

vfwvn, Just wondering if you tap dance much ? Maybe your mostly into backpedalling ? What a strange way to open a thread . . .

hey welcome to my thread.... Qs ah never really tap danced, and don't know what type other than a unicycle (which I don't have) I would use but no not into that either.

Really my main objective is to raise up and push forward quickly medication production, to provide the need. How it gets done is not important, the easiest most efficient and available way is to soil grow (eeek my opinion) and I want to encourage anyone exploring to just get started now. From minimal to advanced hydro methods are all cool, however your most likely to succeed as a new comer is soil growing as a starter, it all works just get working now... now I have started the thread even if alittle rocky, have advanced my objective and here only to assist and ofcourse debate.. so much fun.. nothing personal...

 

[BeaverHuntr]

hey welcome to my thread.... Qs ah never really tap danced, and don't know what type other than a unicycle (which I don't have) I would use but no not into that either.

Really my main objective is to raise up and push forward quickly medication production, to provide the need. How it gets done is not important, the easiest most efficient and available way is to soil grow (eeek my opinion) and I want to encourage anyone exploring to just get started now. From minimal to advanced hydro methods are all cool, however your most likely to succeed as a new comer is soil growing as a starter, it all works just get working now... now I have started the thread even if alittle rocky, have advanced my objective and here only to assist and ofcourse debate.. so much fun.. nothing personal...

I learned the exact opposite way . hydro before soil couldn't
be happier.

 

[Wolfhound]

If it's about getting the meds out, How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows ? Laughable at best to say you are for "quick production". Results you say, good one I guess for those born yesterday. Maybe you should go back to "this works best for me" , I can agree with that !
Now the dancing is "for new growers" eh ? Stick to not backpedalling buddy until you get better at it.
At least we are on the same page about helping others, good enough for me.

 

[vfwvn]

I learned the exact opposite way . hydro before soil couldn't
be happier.

Kudo's to you... Mainly more self study without being around a physical grow??
What hydro method (system) did you pick? from seed or clone? for your first time, always interested. Everybody remembers there first, ouch crash and burn that I did, lots of extreme stretching, germination screw ups, fall over and die, followed up by feelings of total failure... And then the challenge truly began for me at that moment and my goal was to grow the very best . Until a day came that setbacks became far distant issues from days long past.... Sometimes I like to remember when I sexed, rather than germinated female seeds only, and hoped for a 50/50....

 

[BeaverHuntr]

Seen many physical grows before I chose my own grow. I have never germinated a female seed and come out with male, never.....I chose DWC my first grow method. Turned out great no set backs. I harvested when I saw my tirchomes were 50% cloudy 50% milky,

 

[vfwvn]

If it's about getting the meds out, How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows ? Laughable at best to say you are for "quick production". Results you say, good one I guess for those born yesterday. Maybe you should go back to "this works best for me" , I can agree with that !
Now the dancing is "for new growers" eh ? Stick to not backpedalling buddy until you get better at it.
At least we are on the same page about helping others, good enough for me.

hi.. I totally don't understand your statement, "How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows." and how this relates to anything I have said anywhere in this thread, it's like your responding to a totally different thread.. I'm interested to hear your reasoning, and as to "for new growers" suggest you search a few of my past grows here on RIU and lets again chat about my experience. We are all eagerly awaiting your response.

 

[Wolfhound]

You really should read what you post, may be helpful for you when you reply :

"Really my main objective is to raise up and push forward quickly medication production, to provide the need. How it gets done is not important, the easiest most efficient and available way is to soil grow (eeek my opinion) and I want to encourage anyone exploring to just get started now. From minimal to advanced hydro methods are all cool, however your most likely to succeed as a new comer is soil growing as a starter, it all works just get working now... now I have started the thread even if alittle rocky, have advanced my objective and here only to assist and ofcourse debate.. so much fun.. nothing personal...

Sorry buddy but I am tired of your "word game". If you can't understand your own posting & have to backpedal then it is just a game & a foolish one at that.
Enjoy, my work here is done.

 

[BeaverHuntr]

hi.. I totally don't understand your statement, "How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows." and how this relates to anything I have said anywhere in this thread, it's like your responding to a totally different thread.. I'm interested to hear your reasoning, and as to "for new growers" suggest you search a few of my past grows here on RIU and lets again chat about my experience. We are all eagerly awaiting your response.

You still dont get it... No one cares about your grows or experience we were simply stating how your posts were written, they came off shitty.Like Wolfhound said you should have wrote " the style that works best for me" You straight out said" Hydro grows seem to be harvested early( where you received that info? i dont know .) " If it was your own trial and error that made you come up with that info then say so. Dont speak on everyone who grows hydro behalf. All you have to do is hit edit or type " Oh i see how that came off shitty" or "let me re-phrase"

 

[vfwvn]

You really should read what you post, may be helpful for you when you reply :

"Really my main objective is to raise up and push forward quickly medication production, to provide the need. How it gets done is not important, the easiest most efficient and available way is to soil grow (eeek my opinion) and I want to encourage anyone exploring to just get started now. From minimal to advanced hydro methods are all cool, however your most likely to succeed as a new comer is soil growing as a starter, it all works just get working now... now I have started the thread even if alittle rocky, have advanced my objective and here only to assist and ofcourse debate.. so much fun.. nothing personal...

Sorry buddy but I am tired of your "word game". If you can't understand your own posting & have to backpedal then it is just a game & a foolish one at that.
Enjoy, my work here is done.

and here's you post for your review..

If it's about getting the meds out, How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows ? Laughable at best to say you are for "quick production". Results you say, good one I guess for those born yesterday. Maybe you should go back to "this works best for me" , I can agree with that !





ok.. What the F....am I thinking that you are construing soil grow, as promoting an illegal in ground outdoor grow? do you not think that people grow indoors with soil? If your not aware your a total idiot, my thread from the start describes soil grow as indoor in 3 gallon containers, example pic on first thread. Indoor soil grows account for a very large percentage of all indoor grow ops. and harvest just like any other indoor operation. You need some more time in MJ 101, understand you have no experience growing since the 1980s and starting an attempt soon, I've followed some of your posts, your a very new member here on RIU, with very bad angry manners, and really you seem to know very little. So please I'd like you to point out to us all how is it that you say " How can one crop a year help as many as several indoor grows ? What does one crop a year mean really??? C'mon why did you say it, I did not and you cannot point out anything anywhere that relates in my thread to this one crop a year idea, where did you come up with it, please point it out all of us now..