List of Things Christianity Has Made Worse

Hepheastus420

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Their religion is less.involved in the end game, and their basic premises ring inarguably true to me (those premises being life is pain, pain is caused by desire, if a person can limit their desire they can limit their pain and ultimately letting go is the path to painlessness.

Also, they are great because the way I see them treat people makes me want to be like them, as opposed to judeo christian themed religio.s which make me feel arogant (to be honest) because I see so much behavior as despiseable.

They have never wrung my doorbell and given me a pamphlet

And they dont tell you that you are wrong, (usually), they just feel they are correct. That is refreshingly enlightened.

The buddhists have the best parts of all the religion without, from what I have witnessed, all the bullshit. Look at thailand, one of the most buddhist countries in the world. Soooooooo chill. They also have like the largest amount of transgenders. They accept it, disagree, but accept it and are cool with it. Such great people. On the other hand, christians are so crass.
Let's say there's a god.
He loves afterlife. And he loves evil.

So wouldn't the budhists be wrong? My point is that we don't which religion is right. Each religion takes a stab at the unknown. But who's to say that the budhists are closer to the unknown truth than other religions.
 

olylifter420

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i dont get it, you say you dont believe this either, then you use it as an example


i dont believe this either,just using it as an example,for instance like the christians and atheists on this thread,each side thinks they're 100% correct and other sides full of s***.i can tolerate other religons,like buddhism ,muzlims,even Satanist(at least they believe in my God)i tolerated Atheism until i came upon this antichristian thread lol.the lesson on this thread is as long as you dont believe in ancient earth aliens,your not a total dipshit lmao.i remember i hada smoke sess. with my friend,and he was telling me all this FAR OUT shit like ancient aliens fused their DNA with the DNA of primeapes,and thus we were created...I TOLD HIM NO MORE GREEN FOR HIM xp LOL
 

olylifter420

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That is cool that you accept me even though i believe in God.. i have nothing against anyone on here except for the fact that they talk shit about my beliefs when i have not shared my views with them in any way.

i do know what i mean about extreme christianity, but i do not bring up ever because i know what bullshit it is and i know how you all will pounce on it as soon i mention it. A lot on here think that at least i am blind to the fact what people have done in the name of a religion in the past. That is something i have had no part in or ever will... that is extremely stupid of people to take things out context and do stupid shit. Like i said on another post, i am a simple kind of guy that does not put too much thought into this whole religion/atheism crap cause there is no end...

im glad we could agree on something



Ahhh...yes, I see. Understand, we KNOW you are an extreme christian, just not that kind of extreme chrisitan. You're on the side of extreme that I prefer:extremely more normal. We all recognize that the predominant christian wouldnt be on a weed site to begin with.


However, to the secular us, any christianity is extreme, we view the whole thing as extremely absurd, thus feeling like all christians are just a little extreme (recognized owymoron)
 

mindphuk

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Well guys all I can say is that it sure is funny that the same people we are dealing with in this thread are the same people that stood in the presence of Jesus as he preformed miracles and were still to dumb to put two and two together and see that he in fact was the son of God.

Why is this? They all thought that their God was something other than what he was, it is no suprise to me that people think the way these guys do it has been happening since the begining of time.
Maybe because they knew the Hebrew bible better than most where God says in Deut 13 not to believe or follow anyone that claims magic powers or prophecy because God himself will instill those powers to test the Jews. The Jews apparently were smart enough to avoid tricksters and faith healers like Jesus and wait for someone that actually fulfilled messianic prophecy.
 

ziggittyzag420

Active Member
Maybe because they knew the Hebrew bible better than most where God says in Deut 13 not to believe or follow anyone that claims magic powers or prophecy because God himself will instill those powers to test the Jews. The Jews apparently were smart enough to avoid tricksters and faith healers like Jesus and wait for someone that actually fulfilled messianic prophecy.
what a mind fuck (pun intended)
 

sen.c

Active Member
Deuteronomy 13



1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
12If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
16And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
17And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Clearly from the text you posted that is not what was meant and it is clear, nice twist on it though if someone doesn't read it in context I could see them being confused.
 

mindphuk

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Deuteronomy 13



1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
12If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
16And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
17And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Clearly from the text you posted that is not what was meant and it is clear, nice twist on it though if someone doesn't read it in context I could see them being confused.
You are the one that is confused. You cannot read it any other way. I'll leave it up to others to judge.
 

Filthy Phil

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Let's say there's a god.
He loves afterlife. And he loves evil.

So wouldn't the budhists be wrong? My point is that we don't which religion is right. Each religion takes a stab at the unknown. But who's to say that the budhists are closer to the unknown truth than other religions.
THANK YOU, WE AGREE! WE DONT KNOW WHICH RELIGION IS RIGHT!!! Thats basically agnosticism...i believe none of them have it right.

Like I said, because budhism isnt centered around a diety as much as it is a way of living, its got it mostly right

And believing a god exists, why do any of the religions have to be right about it? Could be the purple.dragon god. No one knows. In the end...its faith.
 

Filthy Phil

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ok well how do you explain the parts of our ancestors pasts that cannot be explained by normal methods? in my head there is 3 options 1.aliens 2.gods 3.our ancestors were very fuckin crafty...alot more than we are today. what other options are there?
The absence of an explanation that makes sense doesnt mean that the less sensible explanations are correct, it means you dont know the corr we ct explanation. Pretty simple right? Just because you dont have a better explanation doesnt mean youre correct..
 

sen.c

Active Member
You are the one that is confused. You cannot read it any other way. I'll leave it up to others to judge.
I am truly sorry that your reading comprehension skills aren't as good as your talking skills. It is quite obvious what the passage is saying but maybe you just can't figure it out, I expected more from you.
 

Heisenberg

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because you speak for the scientific community? aa is very logical and if you dont see it youre blind
Some reviewers have characterized the show as "far-fetched", "hugely speculative", and "...expound[ing] wildly on theories suggesting that astronauts wandered the Earth freely in ancient time." Many of the ideas presented in the show are not accepted by the scientific community, and have been criticized as pseudoscience and pseudohistory. History professor Ronald H. Fritze observed that pseudoscience as offered by von Däniken and the Ancient Aliens program has a periodic popularity in America: "In a pop culture with a short memory and a voracious appetite, aliens and pyramids and lost civilizations are recycled like fashions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience

Erich von Däniken – proposed that Earth was visited by ancient astronauts. Such beings have been claimed to have initiated the rise of human civilization or provided significant technological assistance to various ancient civilizations.
 

mindphuk

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I am truly sorry that your reading comprehension skills aren't as good as your talking skills. It is quite obvious what the passage is saying but maybe you just can't figure it out, I expected more from you.
You are so typical. Cry how wrong I am yet unable to actually put into words why.

"If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder ... that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death."
If someone teaches a new and different religious belief with signs and wonders, then that person must be put to death. Clear?
 

Filthy Phil

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One thing I am seeing a lot of is ,"just because christians have done so many wrong things throughout history doesnt mean that christianity is to blame."

However, if you see a pattern of behavior taken from samples into the billions over a thousand years of history, one can begin to make assertions that the religion is responsible for the pattern of behavior. A particular example could be an exception, but it is a trend we are looking for.

For example, we know that driving drunk increases your chances of an accident. Now, you can probably find an example of a man who was drunk and got into an accident, but his.drinking had nothing to do with it. That doesnt change tje trend though
 

blazinkill504

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I endured that first video. It's complete bullshit imo.
There was a long segment about the Japanese suicide forest, with highfalutin terms like Ancient Alien Theorists™ (insert facepalm here) and a veritable phalanx of would, could, maybe, how about, what if. At one point one of these Theorists™ mentioned electromagnetic energy. Oh good, I thought; at least this can be measured. No maps, no numbers, no further explanation. I would imagine that if anything WAS there to measure, they'd have shown data and done a victory dance.
The second segment stinks of hoax. There is no chain of evidence linking any of those corpse photos to the described incident. I think the whole story is a put-on, without any fact to support it. Can we as Westerners even verify the occurrence and membership of the alleged expedition?

So yes; I call bullshit. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a clip from a series of fiction dressed up as serious inquiry into reality doesn't begin to satisfy me. I find it significant that the Urals incident occurred in post-Stalin Russia, where the evidence can and routinely was made to disappear.

After the simply awful investigative standards displayed by that first segment (complete with eerie evocative music and new-school machine-gun video editing!) I'll say I won't pay attention unless higher-quality info that has been through peer review (by scientists, not Theorists™) can be produced.

Humans have this amazingly strong and resilient capacity for superstition and spirit-power ideation. All it takes ime to believe in magic is to want to believe, and our hard-wiring handles the rest. Nature however is indifferent to our wishful stories of spirit and powerThere is some ancient tug deep in my mind-meat that wants to trust the bringers of tales of magic ... however My experience has taught me consistently that this trust is not the friend of reason. cn
so they show pictures and you say you dont believe them means they're fake? i dont really get that and as i said before i dont wish anything or have nothin hard wired into me belivin fantastical alien stories, but when shit like that is put in front of me i cant deny it. you mentioned nothin about the monuments that were shown that cant be explained by any kinda modern measure. to me thats all the proof i need for me to say thats how it coulda gone.
 
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