**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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lol and there you show your ignorance to LED technology lol your obviously a follower and not researcher or you would know about kessil lol. they are not a gamble they ARE the highest quality light on the market build wise, they use DICON products which we use for government and military contracts, they got the highest quality shit, totally different tech than standard LED panels, in a way you cant even compare them its just not fair lol.

As for needing a purple light for veg with kessil its not neccesary unless your going to be veging for extended periods of time, i scrog and SOG, so i dont use a purple light i use magenta all teh way thru it has more than enough blue in it to stack nodes just fine. Now for extended veg of over a month to 2 months i would probably suggest a purple or blue, but honestly the magenta is a really a do it all color for kessil it fuckin handles the business. Also that 40 grams dry was pulled off of a magenta kessil. 150

I would actually like to see a h350 compared to the panel winner here it would be quite interesting IMO

Endur0xX said:
I agree!! but it's new technology so the price will go down regardless... and by the way, I had never heard of Kessil before, and I would not gamble a dime on them!! :leaf:

it's obvious that the blackstar is way ahead now ... those other 2 dont even look that healthy! what is their watering schedule!? Have they all been on the same watering schedule so far!?
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Fuzzbutter

Fuzzbutter

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Kaptain Kron said:
getting the lights that close while it wont burn your plants its pretty detrimental to growth the reason being spectrum mixing you need at least 10 inches IMO
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I can attest to this as since this was my first LED grow and thinking I could put it super close, I had my Kessil set-up 4-6" above my plant when it was a seedling and it wouldn't grow. The second I moved my light to about 12" my plant exploded with growth.
 
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Heretic

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Kaptain Kron said:
getting the lights that close while it wont burn your plants its pretty detrimental to growth the reason being spectrum mixing you need at least 10 inches IMO to even begin to get proper mix and thats with the BS that has wide angle lenses compared to the other 2 panels being shown higher will actually give better results believe it or not, led's are not all about intensity, they are all about PAR, intesity and lums plays a role but not as much as PAR.
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My personal experience with those exact lights says otherwise. During veg I put them at around 10 inches, clones at 6, and they do just fine. It's because of the lenses that it works, as you alluded to. And because of the lenses, I think the panel he has between the 2 spectras is WAY too high to be efficient.

Thinking about it a little more, since those lights have a lot of white leds, you can get them closer than the flower model and not worry as much about spectrum mixing.
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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Kaptain Kron said:
lol and there you show your ignorance to LED technology lol your obviously a follower and not researcher or you would know about kessil lol. they are not a gamble they ARE the highest quality light on the market build wise, they use DICON products which we use for government and military contracts, they got the highest quality shit, totally different tech than standard LED panels, in a way you cant even compare them its just not fair lol.

As for needing a purple light for veg with kessil its not neccesary unless your going to be veging for extended periods of time, i scrog and SOG, so i dont use a purple light i use magenta all teh way thru it has more than enough blue in it to stack nodes just fine. Now for extended veg of over a month to 2 months i would probably suggest a purple or blue, but honestly the magenta is a really a do it all color for kessil it fuckin handles the business. Also that 40 grams dry was pulled off of a magenta kessil. 150

I would actually like to see a h350 compared to the panel winner here it would be quite interesting IMO
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Indeed, I am a follower... and thank god there is people like Wejuana that expose their experiments so that I can follow even more...

LEDs only got my attention about a month ago... when I put a few seeds in soil.

And still, 250$ (about on ebay with shipping in cdn $$) for 36W lamp! and the H350 is 90W for 430$ on amazon! a bit overprice in my opinion ... but so was my extreme diamond, ... still I find they dont give out much infos about their lights on their website like what types of diodes they use etc...

I had not realise you pulled 40g out of 36W, thanks for bringing this brand to my attention... I will FOLLOW them closely now...

Peace :leaf:
 
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WeJuana

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Kessil huh? I thought the same thing, it seemed a little overpriced at 450 per 90w.. but I may eventually rotate one of these brands out and put a new one in, ill definitely check into Kessil.

I'm glad your all here bringing your bit of info to the table though, I am learning new stuff about LEDs almost daily because of this thread.
 
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coolj

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I am both follower and researcher. Im loving this thread I came across kessil vids on utube and i must say I LIKE' EM! that whole modular concept that Kapt Kron is talking abt is love, but but if i tell my lady im spending 400 on a 90w light she gonna question my sanity, lol
 
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coolj

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I would like to Thank WeJuana, Kron, knock, and anyone else who has answered my questions, because of u guys im sold on leds, before i thought they were just christmas lights, lol but u guys have caused me to read abt 300 pages of text and watch abt 2 hours of vids on leds and now im geeked to revamp my whole setup.
 
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WeJuana

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coolj said:
I would like to Thank WeJuana, Kron, knock, and anyone else who has answered my questions, because of u guys im sold on leds, before i thought they were just christmas lights, lol but u guys have caused me to read abt 300 pages of text and watch abt 2 hours of vids on leds and now im geeked to revamp my whole setup.
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Your welcome!

Everybody watch out! coolj got bit by the LED bug.... and its contagious!!
 
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WeJuana

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Endur0xX said:
I agree!! but it's new technology so the price will go down regardless... and by the way, I had never heard of Kessil before, and I would not gamble a dime on them!! :leaf:

it's obvious that the blackstar is way ahead now ... those other 2 dont even look that healthy! what is their watering schedule!? Have they all been on the same watering schedule so far!?
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All 3 plants are watered with the same water/nute mix on the same schedule. I water every 2/3 days depending on how heavily I watered the previous time and the soil dampness (I prefer to water less before a feeding).
 
hippy132

hippy132

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WeJuana said:
All 3 plants are watered with the same water/nute mix on the same schedule. I water every 2/3 days depending on how heavily I watered the previous time and the soil dampness (I prefer to water less before a feeding).
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So, help me I am confused should I be buying LED's that can grow from 50 inches or what, will they all penetrate the same, I just dont know what to say the Spectra really seem to be having an issue... scary , I spent much money.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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The blackstar led seems to be ahead(for now).....As many have said, find it hard to believe the other units will make it up equally by their price difference...
And yeah kessils are great products...my problem is their actual footprint=price is rather small.
Happy growing Wejuana....
 
johnnymcpotts

johnnymcpotts

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I gotta tell you, this thread has inspired me and brought up a lot of questions on what lights to go with so I have officially decided to run a test myself.

I'm currently building my new grow rooms and should be done within 1-2 weeks (I hope) I picked up the Spectra lights from ebay (2) 180 watt, (2) 290 watt, (1) 500 watt and I have a 400 watt HPS

I now plan on contacting Gotham and picking up (3) 240 watt Blackstars and putting them to the test.

I'm thinking about one all Spectra room with both 290's and a 180, one room with Spectra 500 and 180 and the HID and a Blackstar room with all three 240's

what do you guys think?

Sorry, I don't want to hijack your awesome thread, I just got really excited reading though it and my mind started to race!

Keep up the great work!

Anyone have any experience with Jilly Bean or Chocolope?
 
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WeJuana

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hippy132 said:
So, help me I am confused should I be buying LED's that can grow from 50 inches or what, will they all penetrate the same, I just dont know what to say the Spectra really seem to be having an issue... scary , I spent much money.
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Usually people who use LED's put them closer to the plant (12-24") but I am running an experiment which will have many new plants entered in the tents so I have my lights raised more than usual to be able to accommodate the different size plants which will be in and out.

coolj said:
what led setup would u put in this tent?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DarkRoom-PRO-Secret-Jardin-Dark-Propagator-Hydroponics-/350461082000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51991bb990
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I would use something drawing 100-150w and it should more than handle a 3x2x2!

@Psuagro - Thanks so much! That was my thought as well.
@johnymcpotts - PM me the link when you get your thread up!
 
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