Arizona Growers Thread

Wolfhound

Active Member
Enjoying being legal & not a part of anything else would be my guess. They sure, for the most part, have no need for forums. I would not be on a pot forum but for the fact I love learning & expanding my growing knowledge. Most cardholders just use meds & have no reason to socialize. For the most part forums are used by younger people to socialize a lot more than the average working stiff that has debilitating or chronic problems. Just my personal belief partially based on a poll here . . .
 

IVIars

Active Member
I use square 6" wide and 8" deep pots with a few small holes on the sides... Coco coir MUST be packed tight. Loose coco will not allow the root mass to develop a big tight ball of roots.. What will happen is the cooco will only wet the bottom of the pot and not absorb to the top of pot if not packed tight... Pack that shit tight.... Tighter the better...

When my tray floods it only fills up to about 2-3 inches... the Packed coco will absorb what it needs to maintain its own wettness... and the rest will drain back out... I hand water the pots if the top gets too dry(poke your finger into soil and it should be slightly dry about half inch down then hand water....

I've kinda heard opposite. The reason soil grows slower than hydro is because the plant has to push its roots through the medium. A more aerated the medium is, the less energy the roots have to use and the more oxygen they get. I used a 50%coco, 40% perlite and 10% worm castings. I had to water some everyday, 5 gal smart pots, and the root system was massive.

I used Rio Coco Green Starters, it was a mixture of chunky coco, coco fibers, and coir (fine stuff). It was buffered and low ec, hard to find though as I had to order it from a hydro store in Maryland. I liked it, trying the Canna coco now though.
 

phxfire

New Member
I've kinda heard opposite. The reason soil grows slower than hydro is because the plant has to push its roots through the medium. A more aerated the medium is, the less energy the roots have to use and the more oxygen they get. I used a 50%coco, 40% perlite and 10% worm castings. I had to water some everyday, 5 gal smart pots, and the root system was massive.

I used Rio Coco Green Starters, it was a mixture of chunky coco, coco fibers, and coir (fine stuff). It was buffered and low ec, hard to find though as I had to order it from a hydro store in Maryland. I liked it, trying the Canna coco now though.
You are right in some ways but pure coco coir has to be packed tight... Your rules apply to soil not Pure Coco... The shit drains soooo much if you do not pack the coco coir down it will dry out fast and leak coco every where after each watering...

Peace Eazy
 

IVIars

Active Member
Drainage has nothing to do with how much energy the plant will spend pushing its roots through compacted coco. Also this doesn't help the roots get oxygen at all.
 

phxfire

New Member
@lVlars
Pure Coco coir with NO other medium should be packed tight so the medium can retain water. If the coco coir is loose it will dry out faster than you can imagine. As far as oxygen, coco packed tighter than shit still allows an abundent amount of oxygen to the roots. The reason why you want the coco coir packed tight is so you get a big Tight root mass.
Another BIG issue if the coco is not packed tight is coco draining out during watering because it is loose as a goose....

Energy? Explain...

Pure Coco Coir is Nothing like regular soil... Keep in mind Coco has NO nutes for the plants to eat and a neutral PH... Where soil is the complete opposite...



Peace Eazy
 

MurshDawg

Active Member
@lVlars
Pure Coco coir with NO other medium should be packed tight so the medium can retain water. If the coco coir is loose it will dry out faster than you can imagine. As far as oxygen, coco packed tighter than shit still allows an abundent amount of oxygen to the roots. The reason why you want the coco coir packed tight is so you get a big Tight root mass.
Another BIG issue if the coco is not packed tight is coco draining out during watering because it is loose as a goose....

Energy? Explain...

Pure Coco Coir is Nothing like regular soil... Keep in mind Coco has NO nutes for the plants to eat and a neutral PH... Where soil is the complete opposite...



Peace Eazy
Does this go for Coco mixes like Sunshine Mix #4?
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
phxfire, You sure came a long ways in the last year of learning, eh ? Good to see it pays off for you & helpful for others!
 

MurshDawg

Active Member
New update and plant problems. Please check out my journal and give me your input [video=youtube;4mcZlZxDnpc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcZlZxDnpc[/video]
 

phxfire

New Member
phxfire, You sure came a long ways in the last year of learning, eh ? Good to see it pays off for you & helpful for others!
What are you talking about? Last year of learning... Just because I signed up with RIU a year ago does not mean shit kid... Thats not how things work in the real world kid...

But OK

Peace Eazy
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
phxfire,
LOL! We all know who the kid is here.
Just going by what topics you posted, Sorry, wasn't saying you knew nothing before . . . You do know you sound like someone in their late twenties when I read your postings ?
 

IVIars

Active Member
@lVlars
Pure Coco coir with NO other medium should be packed tight so the medium can retain water. If the coco coir is loose it will dry out faster than you can imagine. As far as oxygen, coco packed tighter than shit still allows an abundent amount of oxygen to the roots. The reason why you want the coco coir packed tight is so you get a big Tight root mass.
Another BIG issue if the coco is not packed tight is coco draining out during watering because it is loose as a goose....

Energy? Explain...

Pure Coco Coir is Nothing like regular soil... Keep in mind Coco has NO nutes for the plants to eat and a neutral PH... Where soil is the complete opposite...



Peace Eazy

D'OH! I just bought a big bag of coarse perlite to go with my coco.

By retaining more water you feed less often, the more often you feed the bigger your plant gets.
 

don2009

Well-Known Member
dame guys Im having trouble with heat issues STILL! IDK what to do I have a 740 cfm exahust fan I just put up another fan to pull air from outside to get that cool night air and not to much diffrent. I have a 1000 watt hps. My fan blowing air from outside isnt that strong I think thats maybe the problem. How do you guys have your air flow set up?
 
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