Clonex
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My god man , seek help ,i didnt call you a liar ? i just wanted reuse a few crumbs, fuck i'll buy some more , will you shut up now ?
Re - using your soil ............
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Gastanker
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Rotating crops has been going on for ages all over the world. Rotating outdoor crops really does not apply to reusing indoor potting soil - for one most potting soil has little to no soil (sand, silt, clay), it behaves very very differently than outdoors - not to mention the duration of use, amendments applied, and hundreds of other variables are different when growing outdoor row crops in natural soil versus highly amended potting substrate indoors. Like I suggested ideally you would compost your soil again - this is equivalent to letting a field sit fallow for a season or two.
If all you did was add old used soil to a bit of new soil then yes, your yields will drop due to you reusing soil inappropriately. The drop in yield is because of how you particularly reused it, and says nothing about the possibility of soil being reused successfully.
cannawizard
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**recycling indoor soil.. old news... my buddy has the same FFoF since 2004.. you guys get worked-up for nothing.. lolz, RIU entertainment 
MJstudent
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at first i was wondering why very ones arguing but as i rad i had a question that i didnt see being talked about
- if soil gets used, some people are saying you have to put in more nutrients and such which i get other people say new dirt which i prefer, if easy enough, but if you problem is nutrients, dont most people use nutrients here? so how would we run out? couldnt we just flush salts out after every run then reuse. but tten i was thinking maybe its not becasue of nutrients being used, but all the micro organisms in the soil
this is the only thing that would eventually deminish if you are using proper nutrients?
is this right? or have i gotten to cArried away with my thoughts?
- if soil gets used, some people are saying you have to put in more nutrients and such which i get other people say new dirt which i prefer, if easy enough, but if you problem is nutrients, dont most people use nutrients here? so how would we run out? couldnt we just flush salts out after every run then reuse. but tten i was thinking maybe its not becasue of nutrients being used, but all the micro organisms in the soil
this is the only thing that would eventually deminish if you are using proper nutrients?
is this right? or have i gotten to cArried away with my thoughts?
Monterello
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Yea the soil we use to grow food isnt really even soil anymore. Just a spunge for pesticide a nd nutes
Gastanker
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If you are using a bottled chem line with good micros then all you need to do is flush the soil as you're essentially just using it as a hydroponic growth medium.
If you are growing old school organically you need to replace the bacteria and fungi food along with the trace minerals and micros. You'll also want to re-amend with your non-solubles as well i.e. bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa meal, lama shit... These need to be in the soil before the grow starts and are hopefully given some time to start the mineralization process before planting.
MJstudent
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aight aight yeah that makes sense to me. what about organc hydro mixes like some from advanced nutrients they say they are all organic, would you just flush, or would you want to fix up your dirt with all those good meals, and compposts
DrFever
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your absolutly right soil in time no matter what runs out of life just like you and me every time you feed your plants your litterally giving them SALT we add supliments like fulvixes and humixes for the micro organism to help break down the nutrients for plant uptake what most people seem to forget that why theres so many issues on RIU cause either someone vegged to long and salt built up in there medium and by 3rd week of flower there in a nightmare
ohmy
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I think your dead on,but i am about to get high and we all know how shit changes when that happends lol.
Gastanker
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Most bottled organic lines are completely water soluble (premineralized) and thus don't rely on soil borne bacteria and fungi for breakdown. Technically all your soil should need is a good rinse, but it would definitely help at least to a small degree to recompost it.
dannyboy602
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I reuse it. I just amend it. Haven't had any real problems to speak of. Every time I amend it I change it a little so really it's not the same soil. I look at it like chicken stock. You add stuff to it and it's pretty basic. I'm a lil stoned...did that make any sense?
ohmy
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sounds like you need a good dose of urca threads to make ya feel better lol.
DrFever
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gas tanker is it really worth it for what 20.00 for some organic line of soil then to have a world of hurt or problems in your next grow dont matter to me i will never reuse my soil have tryed it before and seen loses in yield you can't sell me on it i own a botanic garden center family owned you think we save our soil if people don;t buy our plants not likely nor will anyother botanic garden
Gastanker
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Here in Cali, where we have amazing soil for cheap, yards of good amended soil go for $40-$65/yard. You say you go through 140 yards - that's $5,600-$9,100 you would save in soil costs. If you are buying per pallet then you would save much more than this.
Every botanic garden I know composts. What state do you live in?
And what are you trying to prove, other than you personally can't seem to recycle soil?
OP's question - Is it possible to recycle soil?
Your answer - I tried and failed so now I throw away 140 yards of soil on a regular basis, fields of corn in poorly drained areas have salinity problems, here are pictures of my bud. I said I don't recycle soil!
Notice how you don't address the initial question? Just talk about yourself and your personal situation? Is this helpful?
DrFever
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i get to 2 super B trucks to unload so like 4 dump trucks