Get a Harvest Every 2 Weeks

[Al B. Fuct]

Would this be possible to do with a rubbermaid setup and LSTing the plants, but at the same time cutting the lower branches to get the wanted effect?

Don't know what you mean by "a rubbermaid setup."

Also don't know why you'd need to muck around with 'LST' or bending plants if you have not vegged the newly rooted clones before they go into the flowering area. If you have sufficient light and temps are right, the plants will not elongate, thus not requiring any measure to keep them away from the light.

 

[PlasmaRadio]

I think he is referring to a rubbermaid dwc, or something of that ilk.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

I think he is referring to a rubbermaid dwc, or something of that ilk.

Hmm, OK.

While I love the oxygenation that DWC can supply to the roots, the stoned slacker in me loves the fail-safe nature of pots of absorbent media in a flood system. I can ignore the system for a few days if I get a 'slack attack.' I also like the mobility of plants in pots for maintenance and evening out growth by moving plants into more preferential lighting positions as needed.

 

[purpletrainwreck]

I do a similar routine... but hey it works....

 

[stickyicky77]

Good one from JC there.

Sounds like a good op!

With ozone, the scent mask probably isn't necessary- and may in itself be a giveaway. Also, O3 breaks down when it comes in contact with molecules it can oxidise. You may be using up your O3 breaking down scent mask molecules.

Try your system without the scent mask and see how you go with an independent nose doing your testing for you, if possible.

I am not using the ONA set up right now. I have it it ready to go as a back up if i need it. It never hurts to be prepared for a worst case scenario.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

I am not using the ONA set up right now. I have it it ready to go as a back up if i need it. It never hurts to be prepared for a worst case scenario.

Agreed, you never know when an ozonator fluoro tube will quit and keeping a scent mask around is cheaper than keeping a $90 replacement UV tube... but then again, a tube won't rot on the shelf. 6 o' one, half dozen o'... well, you know.

 

[TLR]

Don't know what you mean by "a rubbermaid setup."

Also don't know why you'd need to muck around with 'LST' or bending plants if you have not vegged the newly rooted clones before they go into the flowering area. If you have sufficient light and temps are right, the plants will not elongate, thus not requiring any measure to keep them away from the light.

I meant a rubbermaid setup like this

I only asked about LSTing plants because I'd only be able to grow in a confined space like the pic I posted and I was wondering if LST is the only way to keep plants from getting huge but still being able to flower, etc.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

Zero veg time will help you keep plants short, but this pair of containers is just too short when you consider the height of pots and spacing needed for lighting- needs to be about one more tub taller. You won't have much choice but to bend them over with it as it is. If you can't make the thing any taller than this, you may want to ScrOG instead of SoG. In a box this small, you'll be tempted to flower with CFLs- a guaranteed way to shitty buds.

It'd be just as much work and expense to get it wrong as right. If you can spare the space, go buy a freestanding wardrobe about 2m tall and build your grow in that. Copy this guy. This wardrobe with a 250HPS is just brilliant.

 

[bigal10]

iIm setting up a grow room within a room just like the prof says. Once it is all set up all put a pic up. You know what is missing on this amazing thread Al, an updated pic of the flowers right before harvest.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

You know what is missing on this amazing thread Al, an updated pic of the flowers right before harvest.

If I were to put up a bud shot every time I did a harvest, I'd get kicked off RIU for eating up all the drive space.

Honestly, it looks the same most of the time. A pic from tray4 from 6mos ago looks about like it does now.

If I think if it, I'll shoot a pic next time I'm in the op, but it's harvesting time... and I gotta get back to the motherfucking manicuring... grr... bless/curse/bless/curse/bless/curse

 

[FrostickZero]

iIm setting up a grow room within a room just like the prof says. Once it is all set up all put a pic up. You know what is missing on this amazing thread Al, an updated pic of the flowers right before harvest.

well I have changed my gorw area so it kinda looks better then on my comp dest

 

[bigal10]

if I had 35 plants per tray would I have to add additional lights, other that the 2 1000w.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

FZ, what's your problem? You post inane shit in random threads. Trying to build the ol' post count- or are you just a dickhead troll?

bigal, adding lights doesn't increase light intensity. If your foliar mass is too dense for a 1000HPS, you need fewer plants, not more lights.

 

[stickyicky77]

If I were to put up a bud shot every time I did a harvest, I'd get kicked off RIU for eating up all the drive space.

Honestly, it looks the same most of the time. A pic from tray4 from 6mos ago looks about like it does now.

If I think if it, I'll shoot a pic next time I'm in the op, but it's harvesting time... and I gotta get back to the motherfucking manicuring... grr... bless/curse/bless/curse/bless/curse

I can't wait until i have that kind of problem..lol

 

[daddychrisg]

Luv ya Al.....no response necessary! Just thought I would spread the love to a great farmer....

 

[cmak40]

Al, what is something similar to the flytocel you use, ive been looking for it and have been comin up short, even my hydro shop couldnt help me, most the other mediums at the walmart and home depot are more absorbant mediums than repellents. i have loose rockwool now(absorbant kind) and was basically just gonna copy what you do but i mite need to adjust by the looks of it, also my timer only works in fiftenn minute intervals so i dont want to use all rockwool getting watered for 15min. at a time

 

[MoutainPeeps]

Thanks for the breakdown..I think SOG is going to be the way to go.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

Al, what is something similar to the flytocel you use, ive been looking for it and have been comin up short, even my hydro shop couldnt help me, most the other mediums at the walmart and home depot are more absorbant mediums than repellents. i have loose rockwool now(absorbant kind) and was basically just gonna copy what you do but i mite need to adjust by the looks of it, also my timer only works in fiftenn minute intervals so i dont want to use all rockwool getting watered for 15min. at a time

Ask your local hydro shop to contact Fytogreen's USA rep:

USA
New Age Gardening have been appointed the US Distributor for Fytocell. Their contact details are as follows:


[email protected], Ph (562) 789 0345, Fax (562) 789 8479

In the meantime, replace your mechanical timer with a digital type. Digitals allow single minute run times and as many as 24 (or more) of those cycles per day.

 

[Maccabee]

Al, thanks for the thread and all the great Q&A.

I have a couple questions on some remarks of yours from the last couple pages:

-- On flood/drain vs. DWC -- could you elaborate on why you think flood/drain is more slacker friendly? It seems like DWC is pretty brainless, and with less to fail when you're not paying attention, but you're by far more experienced a grower than I--so what am I missing?

--Flowering under CFLs--I've been preparing a scrog in a long, short horizontal cabinet that I don't think is workable w/o relying on CFLs: the bulbs are barely more than an inch or two away from the cabinet walls, and the buds will grow up from the hydro sites between the bulbs. I've been reading a lot of CFL journals and have seen a fair number of good looking flowering pics. Is it your opinion that weed flowered under CFL is *always* inferior to that under HPS, or that it's a lot harder to get enough light and setup right under CFLs to equal an HPS setup?

I'm not arguing, just looking to pick your brain. ;P

Again, thanks for all the great posts.

 

[stickyicky77]

Al, thanks for the thread and all the great Q&A.

I have a couple questions on some remarks of yours from the last couple pages:

-- On flood/drain vs. DWC -- could you elaborate on why you think flood/drain is more slacker friendly? It seems like DWC is pretty brainless, and with less to fail when you're not paying attention, but you're by far more experienced a grower than I--so what am I missing?

--Flowering under CFLs--I've been preparing a scrog in a long, short horizontal cabinet that I don't think is workable w/o relying on CFLs: the bulbs are barely more than an inch or two away from the cabinet walls, and the buds will grow up from the hydro sites between the bulbs. I've been reading a lot of CFL journals and have seen a fair number of good looking flowering pics. Is it your opinion that weed flowered under CFL is *always* inferior to that under HPS, or that it's a lot harder to get enough light and setup right under CFLs to equal an HPS setup?

I'm not arguing, just looking to pick your brain. ;P

Again, thanks for all the great posts.

If you use CFL's for flowering your buds will be light puffy popcorn balls. You need to use HPS to get large dense buds. CFL's put out the least amount of lumins and also cost the same amount of money to operate per kw hr as a HPS does. The only reason to use them would be for the amount of heat they put out in a small confined space but you can get around that by using cool tubes and good ventilation. Why would you want light puffy buds if you are going to put all that time, $ and effort into growing? CFL's are good for vegging but you really need a HPS for flowering. That's my 2 cents on CFL's.