Could someone explain the different ways to grow?

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driftin

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I was wondering if anyone could help me a little, i am very new to inside growing but not to growing itself. I've looked at many different ways others are growing, like dwc, aero, drip, soil, soilless, etc and am really confused. Can any of you fine folks take the time and tell me the pro's and con's of each type?

I know some will say look at threads, but there is so much boloney in some of the threads, they really don't make sense. I've never grown inside, except to clone and veg, then it was outside and harvest in the fall. My wife has said no more growing outside because it was getting too hard on my old body and my knees cant take the walking.

I do have a tent and some other stuff my boys got me, a secret jardin? and a 400w lite,cooltube, a fan/filter, etc .. but i cant decide on how i want to grow and i really want to make an informed decision, and the wife, bless her, is going to let me have a small corner in the basement to give it a go.

Any info would be really helpful
 
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boneheadbob

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You are used to growing in soil, you grow great herb in soil, bring your soil inside and keep growing. Then spend the next few months learning all about the different hydro grows. You will probaly be happy with the soil indoors
 
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watchhowIdoit

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boneheadbob said:
You are used to growing in soil, you grow great herb in soil, bring your soil inside and keep growing. Then spend the next few months learning all about the different hydro grows. You will probaly be happy with the soil indoors
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Pretty much the same thing I was going to suggest....ya, what he said!!!
 
smokinrav

smokinrav

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IM002125.JPGIM001839.JPGA 400 watt light looks bright as hell, but it has nothing on the sun. You'll want to keep the plants hight well regulated using some kind of training technique like Low Stress Training or topping. A single cola plant like what grows outdoors doesnt work so well under small HIDs because you have to set the light height to the highest part of the plant. By training and growing lots of tops on a single plane, you keep the light illuminating a large wide space. Hope that made sense, I'm a bit high right now....

Here, found a pic of my 400 HPS in the basement over my old perpetual harvest setup. The plants on the left are raised to be even with each other when not posing for effect.

Good luck!
 
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driftin

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ok i thank you for the info, now i have another couple silly questions .. is there a size of pot you recommend? i'm good till after the 10oz cup lol i usually put them in the ground then. would you use 1 gal then 2 gal ? i figure a 2gal will maybe keep them short for me because it works on houseplants i have around the house. Now as far as fertilizer i use 20.20.20 on my house plants would that work? I never fertilized the outside ones just let nature do that. Probably mundane questions but i would rather start it right, and make mistakes then do it wrong at first and build on that mistake.
 
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driftin

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smokinrav said:
View attachment 1872217View attachment 1872207A 400 watt light looks bright as hell, but it has nothing on the sun. You'll want to keep the plants hight well regulated using some kind of training technique like Low Stress Training or topping. A single cola plant like what grows outdoors doesnt work so well under small HIDs because you have to set the light height to the highest part of the plant. By training and growing lots of tops on a single plane, you keep the light illuminating a large wide space. Hope that made sense, I'm a bit high right now....

Here, found a pic of my 400 HPS in the basement over my old perpetual harvest setup. The plants on the left are raised to be even with each other when not posing for effect.

Good luck!
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low stress training, is that tyeing them down? i read about that and it did sound interesting, you tie the stalk down and the branches grow as the top would, well thats my take on it. I dont mind topping them, but that low stress thing sounds better then cutting.

thank you for the information
 
smokinrav

smokinrav

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No less than 3 gallons for flowering. With plants as big as I have pictured, you'll be watering every other day by the end of flowering in 3 gallons. As you can see, I'm using 7.5 gallon milk crates, and they allow me to go 5 days or so when maxed out with vegetation.

Do your final transplant just before you switch to the 12/12 cycle, this will allow the roots grown during the 'stretch' to fill the new space.

20-20-20 will do, but it's not ideal for all stages of growth. You want a bigger ratio of N during veg and the stretch, gradually switching over to more P and K (and less N) as the buds begin to form.

You'll make plenty of mistakes, understand that now before you begin. Ask questions before taking action. Do not love your plants to death. Remember, it is a weed and will grow almost to spite you and your newbie mistakes
 
GunRunner

GunRunner

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Different ways of growing:

Soil
DWC
Bubbleponics
Aeroponics
Drip
Ebb n Flow
NFT
Anything you can think off...

But you already know all that.

Anything you can do outdoors, you can replicate indoors. It's just a matter of scale.

Some techniques are better suited for indoor though, if stealth and number of plants is an issue, for example: ScroG, this is just a cropping technique.

Cheers.
 
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driftin

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Oh i have no doubt i will make mistakes, i have killed a lot of plants while i learned to clone years ago. lol I dont mind gettting another fertilizer if that one is not really very good to use. I would like to give the plants as much good as I can, I think it would make it easier for you guys here to help me when i do a bad thing. lol
It will be fun to challange myself by growing indoors. I have a lot to learn, and its good to know i have a place to ask questions. Living in the boonies is nice, but has its drawbacks by not really able to go to the growing store to ask simple questions. lol
 
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driftin

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GunRunner said:
Different ways of growing:

Soil
DWC
Bubbleponics
Aeroponics
Drip
Ebb n Flow
NFT
Anything you can think off...

But you already know all that.

Anything you can do outdoors, you can replicate indoors. It's just a matter of scale.

Some techniques are better suited for indoor though, if stealth and number of plants is an issue, for example: ScroG, this is just a cropping technique.

Cheers.
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Thanks for responding. Stealh isn't really an issue, living out in the boonies. But the wife has just allowed me a little room in the basement, so I guess i only have a 1meter by 1meter area lol
Although i do have a cabinet for a mother plant and clones. And I can't take credit for what i grew outside, mother nature did that, i just planted and left them till it was harvest.

My boys said something about using a net, but i wasn't quite sure what they meant till you mentioned scrog and i checked how to do it. I will have to read more about that and the low stress thing, so much to read lol
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Personally I find growing in soil/soilless mixtures to be more forgiving. If you give a bit too much nutes, soil/soilless you are less likely for it to burn your plants. People get lower yields than with different hydro setups, but it costs less to setup equipment wise. personally I think if you are wanting to jump into growing inside you should try half promix, half soil In 5 gallon pots. As for nutes....really any will work if ph is kept under controll, I use cutting edge solutions 3 part series, cal mag from botanicare, a pottassium silicate fert, and a multi-potassium bloom booster called X Bloom from x nutrients.

Oh, and keep the temps down in there, and get a 6oo watt light of you can, I dont like 400s
 
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driftin

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Filthy Phil said:
Personally I find growing in soil/soilless mixtures to be more forgiving. If you give a bit too much nutes, soil/soilless you are less likely for it to burn your plants. People get lower yields than with different hydro setups, but it costs less to setup equipment wise. personally I think if you are wanting to jump into growing inside you should try half promix, half soil In 5 gallon pots. As for nutes....really any will work if ph is kept under controll, I use cutting edge solutions 3 part series, cal mag from botanicare, a pottassium silicate fert, and a multi-potassium bloom booster called X Bloom from x nutrients.

Oh, and keep the temps down in there, and get a 6oo watt light of you can, I dont like 400s
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I thank you for responding, I have seen the promix at the store, but thought it was just soil, shows how much i know lol Well since it is more forgiving i will probably go with that, i have to go intown in a couple of days and am trying to make sure I get the stuff i will need. I only make it in once a week to pick up groceries and mail, and mother drives I don't so i have to make sure I get most of what i need. Thank you for suggesting the bigger light but i will have to use what i have to prove to the wife i actually can grow inside then she might let me get a bigger one.
 
smokinrav

smokinrav

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Those plants I pictured above were grown in Pro-Mix with a ton of perlite and horticultural sand. Add powdered lime to most soil/soilless mixes to help with any Ph issues.

When I had it all dialed in, that 400 HPS yielded between 4 and 5 lbs annually.
 
slonez47

slonez47

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I hate to sound like a dick here, but invest in a good book. Jorge's bible is a good start. Then research. Growing to me is like playing Texas Hold 'Em, it's easy to learn, but hard to master.
 
slonez47

slonez47

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smokinrav said:
Those plants I pictured above were grown in Pro-Mix with a ton of perlite and horticultural sand. Add powdered lime to most soil/soilless mixes to help with any Ph issues.

When I had it all dialed in, that 400 HPS yielded between 4 and 5 lbs annually.
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I had PH concerns with my RO soil, but the low PH did'nt bother my plant. I worried incessently about the PH but someone told me that soiless is closer to hydro and a lower PH is tolerated. They were correct. Aside from a little epsom salts for mag I have'nt had a problem with the low PH. You're right on with the 600. I vegged under a true 125watt CFL nine inches above my plant, hardened her for the 600 and she's singing to me as I type. Buds agrowing!
 
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driftin

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slonez47 said:
I hate to sound like a dick here, but invest in a good book. Jorge's bible is a good start. Then research. Growing to me is like playing Texas Hold 'Em, it's easy to learn, but hard to master.
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No your just being honest, and to be honest i have a problem understanding what i read in books. Not that I can't read, but I have a problem with my attention span when reading anything long. I do have them but reading them bit by bit i forget what they said earlier lol And I like your analogy using poker, very explanitory, I expect to win some and lose some lol
 
slonez47

slonez47

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driftin said:
No your just being honest, and to be honest i have a problem understanding what i read in books. Not that I can't read, but I have a problem with my attention span when reading anything long. I do have them but reading them bit by bit i forget what they said earlier lol And I like your analogy using poker, very explanitory, I expect to win some and lose some lol
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Cool attitude my man. No disrespect I assure you. Try Jorge's Bible. It is full of info and very easy to understand. It covers indoor, outdoor, hash making, nutes, lights, the whole cha cha.
 
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