Lets Stop Immigration To Help Eliminate Unemployment And Raise The Standard Of Living

SCARHOLE

Well-Known Member
I think is fucked up when farmers use illegal immagrant labor as tractors an forklifts.
Farmers used to use their children this way until labor laws stoped this practice.
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
Its the 18 year wait that is Imposed on those in Mexico that wish to come here
More shit from the duke of puke.



Becoming a naturalized citizen
The process of becoming a United States citizen with full citizenship rights is called naturalization. Overseen by the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Service (BCIS), there are several ways for aliens to become naturalized. The most common way, used by individuals who hold an immigrant visa, is to obtain legal permanent resident status by residing in the country for a period of five years. During this time, a legal alien may not spend more than six months at once overseas. He or she must be physically present in the country for at least six months of the year for a total minimum of two and a half years.
It is possible to become a permanent legal resident and later, a naturalized citizen through marriage to a United States citizen. In this case, the naturalization period is shortened from five years to three years, provided the couple has been married for at least three years and the spouse is still a citizen of the United States.



Make up some more shit puke!!!!!!
 

dukeanthony

New Member
I included a link that goes to the state department. You going to argue against the state departments publicized wait times for mexican immigrants?

You are the fucking idiot
 

dukeanthony

New Member
More shit from the duke of puke.



Becoming a naturalized citizen
The process of becoming a United States citizen with full citizenship rights is called naturalization. Overseen by the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Service (BCIS), there are several ways for aliens to become naturalized. The most common way, used by individuals who hold an immigrant visa, is to obtain legal permanent resident status by residing in the country for a period of five years. During this time, a legal alien may not spend more than six months at once overseas. He or she must be physically present in the country for at least six months of the year for a total minimum of two and a half years.
It is possible to become a permanent legal resident and later, a naturalized citizen through marriage to a United States citizen. In this case, the naturalization period is shortened from five years to three years, provided the couple has been married for at least three years and the spouse is still a citizen of the United States.



Make up some more shit puke!!!!!!
http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5228.html

Here is the Link Retardicon
BTW why would they Pay Human Smugglers more money and Live in fear of bgeing deported if they could Come here legally?

18 year wait for most mexicans to immigrate here legally
 

boneheadbob

Well-Known Member
It really does not matter what anyone thinks. The feds long ago decided to allow tens of millions of Mexican nationals to invade America. Now the same drug lords and their satanic army who torture and behead one another have bases in America.

The feds want total chaos so the people will beg for the coming police state. So war is coming. Cowboys vs muslims over there and cowboys vs mexicans here on American soil.
Unless you believe this will all end in a diversified utopia where noone has to work and theres free bubble up and rainbow stew for everyone as long as the rich pay their fair share.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
I like the idea of putting them on the front lines of our wars. Fuck them, if they run, they are in a foreign country and will die anyway once raggy gets them, if they try and shoot at us, we'll just push the red button and the c4 on their backs explodes. Or, they can fight for their freedom. Survive 50 battles, and they get to go home.

Wait a minute................
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
There is the link again
An official government website
18 years for most mexicans you stupid racist pile of shit
The same government that says pot is as dangerous as heroin.
Keep drinking the kool-aid douchebag.
Do riu a favor and stop breathing you are wasting our air.
 

hazorazo

New Member
Aww you fed a hungry mexican,so now you deserve a humanitarian award..pshh please,your so full of it brother........Have you ever been to mexico....I have many times,I guarantee you if you are a good natured individual in need someone over there would feed you even if you are american...it's called being a compassionate human,but they probably would not feed you ....you obviously don't know what you are talking about,not one bit,......and speak mexican......come on!! you my friend is why this country has become what it is.......
You will get invited in and fed in Mexico many more times than here in America, for sure!
 

Filthy Phil

Well-Known Member
We should stop allowing immigration and deport illegal immigrants to help us lower unemployment while increacing our standard of living. It's also time to stop forigen aid.
I'm pretty sure that was one of hitlers big.platforms right? ;-)

Well, you better be ready for the costs of stuff to skyrocket....food is as "cheap" as it is partially in part due to ,heap labor. Double the cost of labor, nearly double the cost of your product.

What an easy scapegoat to chose. Saying getting rid of mexicans cubans and hatians (really our only "illegal" immigrants) is going to solve things is a very hateful and narrowminded scope of reality.

Shame on you.

So then...if there are native americans reading this, what do you think it means to them?
 

boneheadbob

Well-Known Member
We should allow more illegal imigrants so they wont be dirt poor in whatever hellhole they come from. Let them clean our homes, pick our lettuce, mow our lawns so they can feed themselves. It beats the hell out of letting them be poor in the failed states they come from.

Since there are no jobs here we should take money from the rich and give it to the 99% so they can hire more illegals and let more people come here to live and be rich. More people equals more diversity and that will make us rich and friendly too.

Feed the world. let them come to America!!
 

dukeanthony

New Member
We should allow more illegal imigrants so they wont be dirt poor in whatever hellhole they come from. Let them clean our homes, pick our lettuce, mow our lawns so they can feed themselves. It beats the hell out of letting them be poor in the failed states they come from.

Since there are no jobs here we should take money from the rich and give it to the 99% so they can hire more illegals and let more people come here to live and be rich. More people equals more diversity and that will make us rich and friendly too.

Feed the world. let them come to America!!
If you cannot Compete against a Non english Speaking illiterate Mexican
Maybe the Problem is
You suck and are a Failure at life
 

dukeanthony

New Member
Why should we have to compete!!!! And why should we do it for dirt like them vermin do......
Nothing is Stopping you from taking their jobs.
Are you telling me you are not capable?
Are you really that lazy? Stupid?

Dennys is Hiring Dishwashers now
Go get that job it awaits you
 

dukeanthony

New Member
September 27, 2010 7:53 PM


Despite Economy, Americans Don't Want Farm Work





(AP) It's a question rekindled by the recession: Are immigrants taking jobs away from American citizens? In the heart of the nation's biggest farming state, the answer is a resounding no.

Government data analyzed by The Associated Press show most Americans simply don't apply to harvest fruits and vegetables. And the few Americans who do usually don't stay in the fields.

"It's just not something that most Americans are going to pack up their bags and move here to do," said farmer Steve Fortin, who pays $10.25 an hour to foreign workers to trim strawberry plants at his nursery near the Nevada border.

The AP analysis showed that, from January to June, California farmers posted ads for 1,160 farmworker positions open to U.S. citizens and legal residents. But only 233 people in those categories applied after learning of the jobs through unemployment offices in California, Texas, Nevada and Arizona.

One grower brought on 36. No one else hired any.

"It surprises me, too, but we do put the information out there for the public," said Lucy Ruelas, who manages the California Employment Development Department's agricultural services unit. "If an applicant sees the reality of the job, they might change their mind."

Sometimes, U.S. workers also will turn down the jobs because they don't want their unemployment insurance claims to be affected, or because farm labor positions do not begin for several months, and applicants prefer to be hired immediately, Ruelas said.

Fortin spent $3,000 this year to make sure that domestic workers have first dibs on his jobs in the sparsely populated stretch of the state, advertising in newspapers and on an electronic job registry.

But he did not get any takers, even though he followed the requirements of a little-known, little-used program to bring in foreign farmworkers the legal way by applying for guest worker visas.

The California figures represent only a small part of the national effort to recruit domestic workers under the H-2A Guest Worker Program, but they provide a snapshot of how hard it is to to get growers to use the program and to attract Americans to farm labor, even in the San Joaquin Valley, where the average unemployment rate is 15.8 percent.

The majority of farmers rely on illegal labor to harvest their crops, but they can also use the little-known H-2A visa to hire guest workers, as long as they request the workers months in advance of the harvest season and can show that no Americans want the job.

Of the estimated 40,900 full-time farmers and ranchers in California, just 23, including Fortin, petitioned this year to bring in foreign farmworkers on the visas, according to the available government data. The Labor Department did not respond to a request for comment about the findings.

More than half of farmworkers in the United States are illegal immigrants, the Labor Department says. Proponents of tougher immigration laws as well as the United Farm Workers of America say farmers are used to a cheap, largely undocumented work force, and if growers raised wages and improved working conditions, the jobs would attract Americans.

So far, an effort by the UFW to get Americans to take farm jobs has been more effective in attracting applicants than the official channels.

The UFW in June launched the "Take Our Jobs Campaign," inviting people to go online and apply. About 8,600 people filled out an application form, but only seven have been placed in farm jobs, UFW President Arturo Rodriguez said.

Some Americans referred for jobs at Fortin's nursery couldn't do the grueling work.

"A few years ago when domestic workers were referred here, we saw absentee problems, and we had people asking for time off after they had just started," he said. "Some were actually planting the plants upside down."

Asked what the agency could do to get more U.S. workers into farm jobs, California Employment Development Department spokeswoman Patti Roberts suggested the UFW could refer applicants to the state or employers, and the state could publicize the openings through public service announcements.

Economists have long argued over whether local workers would take jobs in the field if wages rose.

Philip Martin, a professor of agricultural and resource economics at the University of California, Davis, said because so few farmers participate in the H-2A program, it's hard to draw national conclusions.

"Recruitment of U.S. workers in this program doesn't work well primarily because employers have already identified who they want to bring in from abroad," Martin said. "I don't think a lot of U.S. workers are going out there looking for a seasonal job paying the minimum wage or a dollar more."

The Labor Department collects the same data about H-2A visa applications for all 50 states but does not make it publicly available.

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request from the AP, the agency offered to provide some records for nearly $11,000 in copying fees, but it was not clear whether the information would show how many Americans had applied for farm labor jobs nationwide. The AP plans to file an administrative appeal.

Even California officials say the guest worker program needs fixing, despite a reform effort announced in February by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis meant to put more domestic workers in crop-picking jobs.

Benjamin Reynosa, who was picking ruby-colored grapes in 90-degree heat last week near Fowler, just south of Fresno, said he often is the only legal U.S. resident on seasonal crews. He said most people hear about the jobs through word of mouth or signs tacked outside rural stores, not the electronic registry.

"I've been working in agriculture for 22 years, and I can tell you there are very few gringos out here," said Reynosa, 49, of Orange Cove, about 30 miles east of Fresno. "If people know English, they go to work in packinghouses or sit in an office."

In Tulare County, where the unemployment rate is nearly 16 percent, job seekers on a recent morning crowded around computers at the job development agency.

"We just don't advertise those kinds of farmworker jobs," said Sandi Miller, program coordinator for the county's work force investment board.
 
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