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hazey grapes

hazey grapes

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i've read a lot of reports of femmed beans, particularly by greenhouse turning hermie. a lot of growers want nothing to do with fems. it makes sense that it would increase the chances. if you make a female plant turn hermie, she's going to pass her traits on.

i'm not keen on the concept on an aesthetic level. the only point i can see in fems is to try a strain before plunking down a lot on a pack or to try a bunch of strains or if a "must have" strain is only available as a fem. otherwise, they just ain't natural.

if greenhouse is NOTORIOUS for hermies, i'd say that it's a clear indication femming does increase the chances of passing it on as a trait.
 
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althor

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hazey grapes said:
i've read a lot of reports of femmed beans, particularly by greenhouse turning hermie. a lot of growers want nothing to do with fems. it makes sense that it would increase the chances. if you make a female plant turn hermie, she's going to pass her traits on.

i'm not keen on the concept on an aesthetic level. the only point i can see in fems is to try a strain before plunking down a lot on a pack or to try a bunch of strains or if a "must have" strain is only available as a fem. otherwise, they just ain't natural.

if greenhouse is NOTORIOUS for hermies, i'd say that it's a clear indication femming does increase the chances of passing it on as a trait.
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So one known suspect breeder has hermies so thats a clear indication femming increases chances of hermie.
You are a freaking idiot.
I have never had a female seed turn hermie, not once.
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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hazey grapes said:
i've read a lot of reports of femmed beans, particularly by greenhouse turning hermie. a lot of growers want nothing to do with fems. it makes sense that it would increase the chances. if you make a female plant turn hermie, she's going to pass her traits on.

i'm not keen on the concept on an aesthetic level. the only point i can see in fems is to try a strain before plunking down a lot on a pack or to try a bunch of strains or if a "must have" strain is only available as a fem. otherwise, they just ain't natural.

if greenhouse is NOTORIOUS for hermies, i'd say that it's a clear indication femming does increase the chances of passing it on as a trait.
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I agree with GHS and hermies. i had a few from them but nothing too major. think i had 15 seeds total from 8 big plants. Ive never actually had a hermie where its covered in pollen sacs before (ie. a 50/50 male/female hermie)

the reason some breeders of feminized seeds have hermie issues (imo) is one of two reasons...either:

A) they picked a line of genetics that tends to hermie easily (especially sativa dom plants) w/ or w/o testing them

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B) they cut corners and instead of using colloidal silver they stress the plant till it hermies and use it for breeding. if you can stress a plant to the point of hermie and breed it then the hermie trait is present and will be passed on.

if a fem seed grower tests his parents for hermies by stressing them and they still stay 100% female they are good candidates for breeding. Then if he decides to make feminized beans by using CS there will be no hermies to speak of.

Ive grown some fem beans that hermie'd easily. ive also grown some that never have turned hermie.

I find that GHS hermies pretty easily mattering on the strain. Dutch Passion and Paradise wont hermie for shit. I tested it out myself by stressing 1 strain from each and it wouldn't turn hermie no matter how much light poisoning and abuse i gave it.

So i think it matters more on the breeder and the type of strain it is.

althor said:
So one known suspect breeder has hermies so thats a clear indication femming increases chances of hermie.
You are a freaking idiot.
I have never had a female seed turn hermie, not once.
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exactly you have bought a good line of genetics from a good breeder. feminized seeds that were bred properly wont hermie. its the ones that were grown by cutting corners that present problems.
 
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smokey mcsmokester

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nirvana chrystal...Its a 60/40 f1 hybrid white widow x northern lights....With descent stable genetics... Very potent stuff, you can feel it with 1st hit.... I cant remember what I paid.. Im thinking 27 bucks for 10 reg seeds...... google it, Nothing but positive reviews....Can't understand why it's not popular...
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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smokey mcsmokester said:
nirvana chrystal...Its a 60/40 f1 hybrid white widow x northern lights....With descent stable genetics... Very potent stuff, you can feel it with 1st hit.... I cant remember what I paid.. Im thinking 27 bucks for 10 reg seeds...... google it, Nothing but positive reviews....Can't understand why it's not popular...
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thanks for the tip. would you happen to have any info on white castle (supposedly ww and ice) or ice from nirvana?

those are two interesting strains as far as description goes.
 
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smokey mcsmokester

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Don't know to much about them being Ive never grown them, but I have smoked them and can say the chrystal is very similiar to white castle, chrystal may be a bit more potent... ice is some good heavy indica potent smoke ....chrystal is a veery sativa like high, Makes me want to help the wife out and do the dishes...lol.... one toke over the line will put your ass on the couch though.....I would give ice a 7/10 and chrystal a 8/10...white castle is also sativa energetic high... Ice won canabis cup back in 98...Thats all I really know about those 2....
 
canna_420

canna_420

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themanwiththeplan said:
Also i have a question ive always wondered about GHS and the whole arjan/neville/shanti issue. I always hear people say arjan can't have the true genetics thats sold under Mr. Nice but how do we know he doesn't? ive never tired two of the same strains of each to possibly know but couldn't he easily have taken a pack of beans made by the mr nice breeders...grew it out..picked the best ones and made S1's and sold them as the original?

I feel like anyone could rip anyone off really. especially when it comes to seeds. its hard to get caught stealing imo. I could be very wrong but go easy on me as im just curious.
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That is pretty much what Arjan ad to do. Germ out all the GH stock he ad to find good parents

We say the Original in Breeding as a P1 breeding plant as taken years and when crossed the F1 produces said strain,
So after SB-Nev Arjan could only obtain F2s


But a name I mentioned earlier Ingemar could of got clones from his time at GH and Shantibaba as never said it was not possible.


Their are many threads growing GHS Widow vs MNS Black widow
the obvious is seen GHS is more indica
MNS is as it was, sativa dom



Arjan also buys in a majority of his seeds from Spanish contractors
 
canna_420

canna_420

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if you want an ICE hybrid ( GWS-SShock F2s ) try female seeds Iced grapefruit




Cheap strain I got germing at the moment (freebie for me) rockerij Lemon Skunk. £16 5 pack
Amnesia haze £19

Not sure yet if GHS is supplying rockerij or if their breed buy rockerij
I only germed out 2 to see how they do price-quality wise if their cool i might run another

Their VERY new brand of seeds


http://www.seaofseeds.com/category.php?cat_url=rokerij-seeds
 
hazey grapes

hazey grapes

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i've grown a few femmed freebies and never had a hermie either quoted MUTE. the ONLY hermie i've seen so far was the higland thai regular i gave up on after half a year of waiting for it to start flowering. higland thai is naturally hermie prone though.

instead of flapping your gums at me about greenhouse and looking like the total fidiot that you are, always have been, and always will be, take it up with all of the pissed off growers i've seen in the "fuck greenhouse seeds!" thread and others whydontcha. when enough people get pissed, i take 2nd hand reports as credible.

i'll report on GHS amnesia lemon myself by summer as i got a freebie as well as all the other fems i'll be testing in a couple weeks or around february. i was actually impressed with the 4 femmed UFOs i grew and especially the super cali haze one that got stunted because it's taproot had a kink in it just under the surface, but i'll have 5 of those to test next year.

i can't wait to take pics of my plants with me flipping the bird to this troll always calling me a liar. if my smoke reports are lies, may god strike me dead & die right here and now, and if not, the pieces of shit calling me a liar. sleep tight troll.
 
canna_420

canna_420

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Only ever ad 1 hermie personaly.
that was De shamman Ingemars punch (i know cheap skate)
Male hermy and female hermy from same pack. so Shamman seeds is of for me
 
redzi

redzi

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I want to give Castle seeds a try...for some reason his Big Buddha Cheese strains are $8.70 a bean... never grown or smoked Cheese. Spend over 50 Pounds and registered shipping free. Free shipping good.. half ass freebies (herbies) not so good.
 
canna_420

canna_420

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redzi said:
I want to give Castle seeds a try...for some reason his Big Buddha Cheese strains are $8.70 a bean... never grown or smoked Cheese. Spend over 50 Pounds and registered shipping free. Free shipping good.. half ass freebies (herbies) not so good.
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Homegrown is better,
 
canna_420

canna_420

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Yes Homegrown fantaseeds Cheese.

Its better than the buddahs . a close freind of mine still use's a mum a he found just like the real exy cut i ad .

Its BB Cheese X exy cut. So more Cheese than BB Cheese
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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Have you stopeed to consider that the better beans arou/nd don't carry a price because they're not created by profiteers but rather ordinary decent growers :)I've a whole tin of beans that can't be bought that i have been given, all of which have shown fantastic results for others.
 
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