Driving cross country with a couple LBS. (Boston to Cali and back)

[GreenMONSTAH]

Thats some quality info right there Jack Herer thanks for that hookup! Things are looking good, my cali friend just came home for the holidays he let me know he can meet me around halfway somewhere to ease the burden. @ Kieth Stone (like the name btw lol) tell me about it I can't tell you the number of times I've seen something to the effect of that. "Smuggler busted after speeding" or something stupid like c'mon what'd you forget the couple kilo's stashed in the trunk?

 

[GreenMONSTAH]

...Spend all that money you're looking at using to go to cali and get bud...and get out of your parents' house, you mooch.

I'm 19 you babbling fuck and take care of my bedridden father why don't you use you time wisely and go fuck yourself

 

[Llamamontana]

GreenMonstah, I have read all 9 pages of this thread and I'll just throw out my opinion for what it's worth.(I travel cross country all the time)

At first I disagreed with you because you were buying med mj in CA to transport cross country to sell back east. Well, I never read a thing that says you are planning on selling so that is no longer the issue.(even though by law, you Are trafficking)

If you are planning on selling, that's on you and Not my business.

Until the govt legalizes mj, we need people to risk transporting and selling mj.

Just remember, if you get caught you will probably go to jail......You are only 19....Prison is a great place to get ASS FUCKED!!!! Are you willing to take that risk?

It's so easy to get greedy when you can get away with it. My suggestion is to buy seeds in CA and grow you're own. There is NO 100% way to safely transport 10lbs across country.

If you do travel across country, stay off I-10 and anywhere in the Southwest. (The Border Patrol and DEA set up random checkpoints for Illegals and narco trafficking and they have dogs.)There are also some permenent check stations on I-10. Avoid KS if possible. Never never never use any substance while you are driving....Always drive between 8AM and 8 PM. Never sleep in your car,always stay at a motel. Dress like you are in the military.....Short hair(military cut) nice jeans, clean button down shirt, baseball cap. Stop by the Army recruiting station and pick up a sticker that says "Army Of One" and put it in the rear window. If you are stopped for a traffic violation, yes sir, no sir three bags full sir.....(I am joining the army,navy, air force marines at the end of summer etc..) They love that.(that line kept me out of the back seat of a cop car in the 70's) Good luck.

 

[Jack Harer]

Growing 10lb every 60 days really isn't all that hard and doesn't take TOO MANY resources. It won't be your "garden" variety personal grow, but then you don't need 10K worth of lights either.
Running across country is a numbers game, the odds get slimmer each trip. You can grow an OP the size of a 10 to 15lb grow almost indefinitely if you can keep your mouth shut and ego in check.
I ain't trying to talk ya out of anything, but growing it would be much safer in the long term. Make your run, then invest that into a good, secure grow.
Most of the nay-sayers are just trying to protect what concessions they have gotten from the government, a quasi-legal status for their pot. I am not at all satisfied to accept quasi-legality. They have it, and want to protect that, understandable. But that doesn't negate the fact that other parts of the country STILL NEED a supply.
I fully support full legalization. When (not IF) that happens, I'll be one happy bunny. But until such time as that does happen, I for one will take advantage of the economic opportunity, and milk the cash cow the government has so graciously put in my pasture. THEY created this black market, and it will not go away until such time as they pull their heads out of their asses.

 

[GreenMONSTAH]

GreenMonstah, I have read all 9 pages of this thread and I'll just throw out my opinion for what it's worth.(I travel cross country all the time)

At first I disagreed with you because you were buying med mj in CA to transport cross country to sell back east. Well, I never read a thing that says you are planning on selling so that is no longer the issue.(even though by law, you Are trafficking)

If you are planning on selling, that's on you and Not my business.

Until the govt legalizes mj, we need people to risk transporting and selling mj.

Just remember, if you get caught you will probably go to jail......You are only 19....Prison is a great place to get ASS FUCKED!!!! Are you willing to take that risk?

It's so easy to get greedy when you can get away with it. My suggestion is to buy seeds in CA and grow you're own. There is NO 100% way to safely transport 10lbs across country.

If you do travel across country, stay off I-10 and anywhere in the Southwest. (The Border Patrol and DEA set up random checkpoints for Illegals and narco trafficking and they have dogs.)There are also some permenent check stations on I-10. Avoid KS if possible. Never never never use any substance while you are driving....Always drive between 8AM and 8 PM. Never sleep in your car,always stay at a motel. Dress like you are in the military.....Short hair(military cut) nice jeans, clean button down shirt, baseball cap. Stop by the Army recruiting station and pick up a sticker that says "Army Of One" and put it in the rear window. If you are stopped for a traffic violation, yes sir, no sir three bags full sir.....(I am joining the army,navy, air force marines at the end of summer etc..) They love that.(that line kept me out of the back seat of a cop car in

Hey llamamontana thank you for the reply. The bud will be resold but a good portion of my customers are older folka, my parents friends with MS or arthritis but I appreciate your not here trying to flame me for selling it. I already got a crew cut and a couple USMC stickers to slap on my car as well as local firefighters union stickers. As for prison, I'm prepared to go if caught physically and mentally, been wrestling/boxing since I was damn near in diapers. Definatley staying away from Kansas I've heard they are pretty strict. Thank you for the luck ima need it

 

[GreenMONSTAH]

I love this

 

[GreenMONSTAH]

quotes keep getting messed up on my cell sorry

 

[Jack Harer]

Grow op busts are already WAY up in this economy. More and more folks are taking a serious look at doing this. I admire your spirit if nothing else. But PLEASE be a success story, not a statistic!!

 

[Llamamontana]

Federal mandatory minimum for possession with intent is 5 yrs....Up to life for trafficking

 

[GreenMONSTAH]

send me the link you got that info from llamamontana if ya could because I've seen gov't sites that say otherwise

 

[Llamamontana]

http://www.famm.org/Repository/Files/FEDERAL%20MANDATORY%20MINIMUMS%2011.29.10.pdf

this should tell you what you need to know. A subnote on this is that conspiricies and attempts carry the same mandatory minimum. So in essence, you are also involving and risking you college friend who you plan to buy from. If you have an accident while in possession of that much weed, and it results in somebody dying or receiving serious bodily injury....20 yrs!
GreenMonsta, I am not critisizing or even trying to discourage you. What you do is your business. But (I'm also a father) and at 19 the financial rewards seem worth the risk....only you can decide that. You say that because you wrestled for several years that you think you are prepared to handle prison. At 19 yrs old I don't think that you grasp the realities of prison.The only thing similar to what you see on tv is the picture of a prison from the outside. You may have been wrestling for 15 of your 19 years but there a countless violent prisoners who have been surving in prisons longer than you've been alive and many they are total
I'll give you a small dose of reality.
The first thing you will lose is all sense of dignity. You will shit, piss, shower, puke, and jack off, always being watched. You will be beaten severely on a daily basis, you will swear your life into a gang. You will be raped, often gang raped.(think HIV,hepatitis, etc) You will be forced to suck off some stinking dirty unwashed penis under fear of death. The food you will endure makes school cafeteria food look like dinner at the Four Seasons. And that's going to be the easy part. Think of locking yourself in your bedroom for 16 hours a day with no phone tv or friends, and no hope,total isolation. No women to squeeze on no fresh air to breathe. No going for a walk,ride,run hike or anything. You will be a prisoner! All for a few bucks!

Maybe I am trying discourage you. Probably because you are only 19 yrs old and seem a lttle naive and I don't believe that you understand what you are risking.

 

[veggiegardener]

http://www.famm.org/Repository/Files/FEDERAL%20MANDATORY%20MINIMUMS%2011.29.10.pdf

this should tell you what you need to know. A subnote on this is that conspiricies and attempts carry the same mandatory minimum. So in essence, you are also involving and risking you college friend who you plan to buy from. If you have an accident while in possession of that much weed, and it results in somebody dying or receiving serious bodily injury....20 yrs!
GreenMonsta, I am not critisizing or even trying to discourage you. What you do is your business. But (I'm also a father) and at 19 the financial rewards seem worth the risk....only you can decide that. You say that because you wrestled for several years that you think you are prepared to handle prison. At 19 yrs old I don't think that you grasp the realities of prison.The only thing similar to what you see on tv is the picture of a prison from the outside. You may have been wrestling for 15 of your 19 years but there a countless violent prisoners who have been surving in prisons longer than you've been alive and many they are total
I'll give you a small dose of reality.
The first thing you will lose is all sense of dignity. You will shit, piss, shower, puke, and jack off, always being watched. You will be beaten severely on a daily basis, you will swear your life into a gang. You will be raped, often gang raped.(think HIV,hepatitis, etc) You will be forced to suck off some stinking dirty unwashed penis under fear of death. The food you will endure makes school cafeteria food look like dinner at the Four Seasons. And that's going to be the easy part. Think of locking yourself in your bedroom for 16 hours a day with no phone tv or friends, and no hope,total isolation. No women to squeeze on no fresh air to breathe. No going for a walk,ride,run hike or anything. You will be a prisoner! All for a few bucks!

Maybe I am trying discourage you. Probably because you are only 19 yrs old and seem a lttle naive and I don't believe that you understand what you are risking.

Very well said!

Prison destroys people.

Permanently, In most cases.

 

[Da Almighty Jew]

And if I were a moderator, you'd BOTH be banned. This is chicken shit juvenile assed behavior guys!!!

Why would you ban me i thought you were cool.

 

[Jack Harer]

Why would you ban me i thought you were cool.

I thought the post was pretty clear, and self explanatory. I'm cool with the exchange of ideas, not the exchange of insults and personal attacks that waste time and bandwidth. True, This is the internet, but who says the internet has to be a free-for-all bashfest? Juvenile behavior begets juvenile chastisment. You want to be treated as an equal, then comport yourselves as such.
Mostly it was directed at Unohu, but you fed into it. Really, that shit is totally unnecessary.

 

[420johnny]

Just a quick Q, hopefully not too off topic but with all the serious admissions of a not so serious crime (in our opinons),

Where the hell is rollitup hosted and i damn hope it ain't the USA?

Because if it is in the USA, what stops the bastards getting a court order for peoples IP addresses, going to their ISP's and finding out who had that IP at that particular time, then finding the dude and following him all the way on this trip to make a 10lb or so bust?

I know that sounds really paranoid but it's totally possible depending on where this site is hosted.

Last question, has anybody who's talked about large numbers here before suddenly stopped posting before?

 

[unohu69]

1.) OK, maybe a tiny bit out of line for the "delete the thread" comment. but I never said shit about banning anyone. free expression and all that ya know.

2.) I'm not holding any grudge, I have liked posts from both of you.

3.) However throwing the snitch remark deserved a fuck off, dont think so? what would you say? forget it, I dont Care What youd say. If it were to my face, Worse things would happen. A promise.

4.)All I was trying to do was point out, A little common sense should prevail, and blabbing on the net you wanna drive across country to bring back, decent weight, may not be the brightest thing I have ever seen. But to each their own.


hell, I think everyone takes a certain risk just having a RIU account, because actually, I dont know who runs it. Do You?



So again, I dont give a rats ass what you decide to do, just be careful is all. Follow the great advice some of these guys have given, yes, Jack thats for you. you have good advice.


Good Luck, its admirable to want to help out those who cant do it for themselves.


I had always thought it would be a good idea to go to Cali to buy a car, something nice like an old Camaro, Or Mustang, and haul it on a flatbed or something. Maybe A nice truck and trailer combo, decked out like a race team would have. then why limit yourself to 10 elbows?

 

[Corso312]

They cannot detain you for an extended period of time during a traffic stop, especially when there is "no probable cause" to do so. If you DO get pulled over, get your ticket and leave.

See http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/articlearchive/details.aspx?ID=207559

"Traffic stops are also analogous to Terry stops and must not be prolonged unnecessarily. A stop that is lawful at its inception can violate the Fourth Amendment if it exceeds a reasonable period that is necessary to accomplish the purpose of the stop. See, for example, Illinois v. Caballes.

In Caballes, the Supreme Court found that walking a narcotics dog around a vehicle during a traffic stop was not a search and was permissible as long as the stop was not extended for that purpose, even where there were no articulable facts to suggest drug activity. The purpose of the stop was traffic enforcement, and the stop was not extended beyond the time that was necessary for normal questioning and interaction associated with a traffic stop.

However, “a seizure that is justified solely by the interest in issuing a warning ticket to the driver can become unlawful if it is prolonged beyond the time reasonably required to complete that mission.” If police detain a driver for the purpose of bringing a narcotics dog to the scene where there is no evidence of drug activity, even a brief extension of the traffic stop is unacceptable"..........

"Even in serious cases where investigation is progressing toward probable cause, it is unlikely that the Supreme Court would approve of an all-day Terry stop. A rule of thumb might be that the duration of an investigative detention should normally be measured in minutes, not hours—though in a serious case where circumstances required it, 75 minutes might be reasonable"...........

that is all good in theory..however i hope you never have to find out that those laws are not worth the paper their written on..the police wipe their ass with those laws and when it goes to court ..their report will be written to cover their unlawful tactics and you will be fucked.

 

[pvddread]

Go for it.Well i did it the other way. Road trippin from east coast to CA. Although i only took 1/2 pound for the head of some mexican brick. I smoked the whole way like a chimney. Took I-10 west and I-70 back east. Funny to think i was taking the 1/2 pound back the way it came. We actually almost crossed the mexican border on I-10 in Del Rio Texas. I made friend pull illegal u-turn to avoid crossing into Mexico. That would have made for alot of ganja to be smoked before crossing back into US. After finishing the half-pizzy on my trip i got some medical grade from oakland to smoke on the way back home. Got pulled in Utah for going to slow! I was a total dick to the officer the whole time. I had Fuck the Police -NWA- playing the whole time during the search that lasted for over an hour when another cop pulled up with the dog. I began to rant at new cop that the other cop needed training and was totally out of line. The dog never came out and they never found stash that was in plain sight HA! Well a couple days later on I70 in West Virginia where it travels through WV for only 5 miles i got pulled over. I70 goes right through a tunnel when entering WV from OHio. both times i wasnt driving. Girlfriend was immediatly pulled from auto and placed in cruiser then she was told K-9 was coming to search. He then let her walk back to car and she told me dogs were coming. Cop gave me a minute to think then walked up to me in passenger and told me dogs were coming and do i consent to search. i called his bluff and said sure in the nicest way possible. He immediatly said have a good day and let me go. Which i did and enjoyed another spliff of some of oaklands finest while continuing on my trip home. So be warned I70 in WV is another hotspot. Wonder how much they get in those five miles! Sorry for long post but thought you'd like.

 

[Corso312]

http://www.famm.org/Repository/Files/FEDERAL%20MANDATORY%20MINIMUMS%2011.29.10.pdf

this should tell you what you need to know. A subnote on this is that conspiricies and attempts carry the same mandatory minimum. So in essence, you are also involving and risking you college friend who you plan to buy from. If you have an accident while in possession of that much weed, and it results in somebody dying or receiving serious bodily injury....20 yrs!
GreenMonsta, I am not critisizing or even trying to discourage you. What you do is your business. But (I'm also a father) and at 19 the financial rewards seem worth the risk....only you can decide that. You say that because you wrestled for several years that you think you are prepared to handle prison. At 19 yrs old I don't think that you grasp the realities of prison.The only thing similar to what you see on tv is the picture of a prison from the outside. You may have been wrestling for 15 of your 19 years but there a countless violent prisoners who have been surving in prisons longer than you've been alive and many they are total
I'll give you a small dose of reality.
The first thing you will lose is all sense of dignity. You will shit, piss, shower, puke, and jack off, always being watched. You will be beaten severely on a daily basis, you will swear your life into a gang. You will be raped, often gang raped.(think HIV,hepatitis, etc) You will be forced to suck off some stinking dirty unwashed penis under fear of death. The food you will endure makes school cafeteria food look like dinner at the Four Seasons. And that's going to be the easy part. Think of locking yourself in your bedroom for 16 hours a day with no phone tv or friends, and no hope,total isolation. No women to squeeze on no fresh air to breathe. No going for a walk,ride,run hike or anything. You will be a prisoner! All for a few bucks!

Maybe I am trying discourage you. Probably because you are only 19 yrs old and seem a lttle naive and I don't believe that you understand what you are risking.

angs are about money


not sure if you are going for the scared straight angle or not..but it is you that have been watching too much prison television...i have been to prison and was it a nice place? no..but most prisoners are there to do their time and get the hell out..it is the lifers who play the prison politics and gangs are about money..mostly gambling and drug money inside...if you are a punk than you will be punked and taken advantage of...but the whole rape thing is way overblown..i am not going to say it does not happen but it does not happen as much as the public is led to believe...the mexicans are taking the prison system over.

 

[Jack Harer]

I'm waiting for the "Well guys, I made it!!!" post!!