How to Employ 100,000+ Americans and Rebuild Our Country

Padawanbater2

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Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?
 

NLXSK1

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Before we do all that, shouldnt we ask why the infrastructure got so dilapidated in the first place?

Secondly, roads and bridges are primarily the responsibility of the state governments. Does it really make sense for the federal government to raise your taxes so it can then decide to send the funds to another state to repair their bridges?

We need smaller government, not more centralized government buracratic waste and fraud.
 

Padawanbater2

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Before we do all that, shouldnt we ask why the infrastructure got so dilapidated in the first place?

Secondly, roads and bridges are primarily the responsibility of the state governments. Does it really make sense for the federal government to raise your taxes so it can then decide to send the funds to another state to repair their bridges?

We need smaller government, not more centralized government buracratic waste and fraud.
We should look to other countries for the best of the best civic engineering techniques. Have you seen the autobahn in Germany? It's 2 or 3 times as thick as American highways and also 2 or 3 times as safe, even without a speed limit! Japan has bullet trains that are worth mentioning in the same breath. I've had my own ideas on how we can improve the freeway system (live near LA and FUCK rush hour traffic!) and I haven't ever had any real training or education, I can't even imagine what the best of the best minds in civic engineering could come up with at this point!

I was thinking more along the lines of using the current federal budget and just allocating funds a little differently. Take 5-10% from the military budget and using it on domestic restoration. No tax increases. This, I feel, is a better, more productive and efficient way to invest our money back into our own country. We've gotta stop trying to get around the elephant in the room, our government spends billions a year to murder innocent people thousands of miles away. Let's change that.

We need better regulation and more transparency in government. No more classified documents, top secret closed doors deals. A government for the people, by the people should be viewable to every American citizen without restriction. There are only a few reasons to keep something hidden, and none of them fall under "protecting Americans".
 

Coals

Active Member
The government used to have the ability to create its own money and lend it, INTEREST FREE, to the states for infrastructure building/maintinence. This stopped in 1913 with the creation of the FED. Canada did this up untilll 1971, they funded WW1, WW2 and the huge infrastructure build in Canada after the war. In 1971 Canada began buying its money off the same people we do.
Today the government can afford to do very little because interest often costs more than the actual projects.

No country can survive without soverign money. Whomever owns the monoply on money creation owns the country.

Can you say Soverign Suicide?
 

redivider

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the monopoly on money creation. WOW.

the currency in place, no matter what time period, relies on a balance of perceived value and trust.

exactly who generates the notes for the currency doesn't affect it nearly as much as the above.

i think what you mean is who controls the majority of a nations' WEALTH, owns the country..... and we know who that is....
 

beardo

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Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?
It's a much better idea than what they have been doing- but it is still a bad idea
The govt can not create wealth and should not be employing people
I think the reason they have not done what you suggest is because it would help the average people and the goal is for them to lower our standard of living so this would be counter productive for them.
 

boneheadbob

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Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?


Congresscritters turned over the power to print money to a few well connnected banker families in 1913. Now they "print money" and give it to congress, with interest.

Before that the feds printed sound money according to the constitution (silver & gold coins)
There was no interest and they could not print more then they had.

The banker families win no matter what happens and we the people have become serfs,, again in our own country, just like our founding fathers told us would happen.


Now its all coming to an end. There is no way possible to pay back the money everyone owes each othere.

Get ready for tough times. real tough times and war, lots and lots of war.
 

Coals

Active Member
the monopoly on money creation. WOW.

the currency in place, no matter what time period, relies on a balance of perceived value and trust.

exactly who generates the notes for the currency doesn't affect it nearly as much as the above.

i think what you mean is who controls the majority of a nations' WEALTH, owns the country..... and we know who that is....

Wtf? The treasury prints the notes. The Fed CREATES the money. Just look at the data. Do you know how to do that? The FED is creating money, out of nothing, constantly. QE1 ran right into QE2 which ran right into QE3. THEY NEVER STOPPED. Now they are saying QE4 will start in Marchish maybe, BUT THEY ARE STILL CREATING MONEY RIGHT NOW. QE3 never ended. In relaity QE1 never ended. Obama has no control over this. The Congress has no control over this. No one has any regulatory influence whatsoever. There is no one weighing the pros/cons with regards to the average, middle class person. They are creating currency in order to get us through christmas. They have a monopoly.

They are making us poor. They have already addmitted core inflation is going to be "allowed" (froced) to go over 5%. Core inflation does not include oil, food, gas and other things you and me require to breathe every day. You hrave to look to the CPI for those things (we used to use CPI for inflation targets but reality got a little uncomfortable so we decided not to use that index). If you add the CPI to core you get well over 10% inflation AKA hyperinflation.

So go out and work extra hard and long but try not to think about the fact that a private organization is ensuring that no matter how much more you earn, it will be worth less.

"there is no government agency that has influence over decisions that we make"
-Alan Greenspan.
 

laughingduck

Well-Known Member
Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?
I am thinking that was what the stimulas package was suppose to do....... It didn't.
Why can we not build a pipeline from canada to houston?
 

Terms

New Member
I am thinking that was what the stimulas package was suppose to do....... It didn't.
Why can we not build a pipeline from canada to houston?
We Can but in no way should we go thru Kansas or Nebraska
I believe the Worlds largest body of freshwater Lies there

Under the Ground.
 

Cali chronic

Well-Known Member
Speaking of fresh water check out this one. The US let China take our reserve to fill their reserve.

[video]http://youtu.be/zIQ-HuCOfS4[/video]

[embed] http://youtu.be/zIQ-HuCOfS4[/embed] I do not know why my editor will not embed? only show a link. Maybe it is posts one must acquire before that option is available.
 

laughingduck

Well-Known Member
Exactly, always some bullshit excuse! We already have lines all over the U.S., I have inspected alot of them. This new line would parallel existing lines.
 

NLXSK1

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We Can but in no way should we go thru Kansas or Nebraska
I believe the Worlds largest body of freshwater Lies there

Under the Ground.
And how is an above ground pipeline going to affect the water table?

The earth is 80% water... Based on the environmentalists NIMBY positions, there wouldnt be any pipelines created anywhere because of the possibility of harming one hair on the 3 toed striped newt...
 

Terms

New Member
And how is an above ground pipeline going to affect the water table?

The earth is 80% water... Based on the environmentalists NIMBY positions, there wouldnt be any pipelines created anywhere because of the possibility of harming one hair on the 3 toed striped newt...
Becuase it is underground. And the Proposed route runs right over the oglalla aquifer.
The govenor and most of the Congress in nebraska is pretty much Republican
And Even the Republicans in the state Hate the idea of a Potentially leaking pipeline Contaminating the worlds largest reserve of freshwater
 

silasraven

Well-Known Member
Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?
why because your government doesnt care about you nor its country. they care more for themselves and hpw far they can expand their take over. a base here and their in a country and the degradation begins .
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Becuase it is underground. And the Proposed route runs right over the oglalla aquifer.
The govenor and most of the Congress in nebraska is pretty much Republican
And Even the Republicans in the state Hate the idea of a Potentially leaking pipeline Contaminating the worlds largest reserve of freshwater
Yes, after a 3 year environmental study (the most comprehensive in history) assessed the risk to be minimal.

Obama doesnt want us to have any energy program.
 

Terms

New Member
Yes, after a 3 year environmental study (the most comprehensive in history) assessed the risk to be minimal.

Obama doesnt want us to have any energy program.
Well then you are going to have to take it up with the People that Live in Nebraska and the Republican Goverment that also opposes the Routing of the Keystone pipeline Over the Oglalla Aquifer

And Importing More Oil isnt an Energy Program
Its just more Dirty Energy
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Well then you are going to have to take it up with the People that Live in Nebraska and the Republican Goverment that also opposes the Routing of the Keystone pipeline Over the Oglalla Aquifer

And Importing More Oil isnt an Energy Program
Its just more Dirty Energy
As opposed to the clean energy the Volt and Leaf run on.... LOL! Get a clue.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Why doesn't the government design and engineer our highways, railways, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, etc. then contract hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans to build them?

-unemployment decreases
-the economy is stimulated
-money goes back into US resources (using construction and building materials for everything)

-win/win all around?

Instead we pay banks huge sums of money... why again?
Great idea, now tell us where the Government is going to get the money to do all of that.
 
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