LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

[hyroot]

Under a 4 bulb t5, 2 red suns, 2 generic Daylight.

The plant on the left is the T5. The one to the right was grown under 240 watt Blackstar (never again). Both plants 7 weeks.

T5 can def do the trick. We added the T5 to this plant at week 4.5 of bloom because the Blackstar wasn't doing shit. We will now be doing our first large grow using all T5 and will be mixing the spectrum up even a bit better adding in the Fuji Purps and another 3000k Uship bulb that is heavy orange and into the red.

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She's puurrddy

 

[hyroot]

What are you guys using the Coral Waves in place of?

In th blue position. In place of the super actinic and 454

 

[falcon223]

I need help with the watt ratting on the 4 foot 8 bulb t5 fixture. Is it 430 watts give or take. Or is it 500 watts give or take ?
Some places say 430 and some say 515. I am about to pull the trigger on a 8 bulb light.

 

[Myles117]

around 430

about 54 watts per bulb

 

[hyroot]

I need help with the watt ratting on the 4 foot 8 bulb t5 fixture. Is it 430 watts give or take. Or is it 500 watts give or take ?
Some places say 430 and some say 515. I am about to pull the trigger on a 8 bulb light.

With 54 watt bulbs it puts out 432 watts of lights. It draws 488 watts of power. You can put .higher wattage bulbs in it too. But they only mke a few 96 watt bulbs

 

[okthanks2]

My hydro plant is totally all wrinkled up now. Looks like a raisin.....DEFINATELY not healthy, but I know now that it isn't being caused from the lights. I have the plant under a CMH and it is still doing the same weird shit. It must be an over-fertilization problem. Strange as it is on a 50% nute!

 

[hyroot]

My hydro plant is totally all wrinkled up now. Looks like a raisin.....DEFINATELY not healthy, but I know now that it isn't being caused from the lights. I have the plant under a CMH and it is still doing the same weird shit. It must be an over-fertilization problem. Strange as it is on a 50% nute!

Are the tips of the leaves a reddish brown color? If so that's a sign of over feeding. It sounds like ph or quality of water issues. Add some dolomite lime to you nute mix. its $3. It's a ph buffer or soil sweetener, also has mag and calcium in it too.

 

[hyroot]

final




Next new batch at 4weeks under 1k eye hortilux and t5 8 bulb 3 fiji / 3 redsuns / 2 coral waves



veg under 6 bulb. 1 ati aquablue special and 5 6500 k

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

^im confused is that 3 different grows or all the same grow? They all seem to have different lighting.

 

[okthanks2]

Hyroot, do you have the 1K and the T5 lights right next to each other in the same room? Or are the plants and lights in separate rooms?

 

[hyroot]

Hyroot, do you have the 1K and the T5 lights right next to each other in the same room? Or are the plants and lights in separate rooms?

Same room. the 1k has only been on for 2 weeks. The girls got too big to fit under the T5 alone.

The small veg ones are in another room.

 

[Redoctober]

Nice I have mine in a different order making it more symetrical to create an even spectrum blend. Fiji / redsun / coral wave / redsun / fiji / coral wave / redsun / fiji. Might swap the center fiji for a redsun. But then ill have 2 redsuns right next to each other and not sure if I want to do that.

Oh good call! I was thinking that I should probably arrange it so that I have a base bulb at either end. Those closeup pics of your buds look like some High Times shots! T5 really does make for some serious quality. Which strain was that again? Your room looks great! I don't think it really skews the experiment much having an HPS next to the T5 because as you get further than 3 feet away from the HPS, it's impact is almost negligible due to the inverse square law.

P.S. best avatar I've ever seen That's one of my all time favorites! Ye intruders beware...crushing death and grief...soaked with blood...of the trespassing thief!

 

[Redoctober]

okthanks2, not much consolation for ya but it is kind of good to know it isn't the lights. I had plants do something similar to me one time and it turned out to be humidity related. The leaves folded up along the central vein and also turned sideways. I don't think that that's what you've got going on, but if you've absolutely ruled out everything else, it may be something different to look at.

 

[hyroot]

Oh good call! I was thinking that I should probably arrange it so that I have a base bulb at either end. Those closeup pics of your buds look like some High Times shots! T5 really does make for some serious quality. Which strain was that again? Your room looks great! I don't think it really skews the experiment much having an HPS next to the T5 because as you get further than 3 feet away from the HPS, it's impact is almost negligible due to the inverse square law.

P.S. best avatar I've ever seen That's one of my all time favorites! Ye intruders beware...crushing death and grief...soaked with blood...of the trespassing thief!

Thanks. There is a noticable difference between the girls under both lights. The t5 buds are slightly bigger and more frosty. The leaves are darker an more perky. Less stretching . Yet most are same height and the ones under the 1k stretched a little so the t5 ones have more bud sites. A little light from each bleeds into.each side but still there is difference.

 

[PetFlora]

In the future, please keep your lame ass racist remarks to your stupid self

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LMFAO!!! is that jon jones? FATALITY!! he didnt do it right though, he didnt fully remove that cracka ass cracka's head and spine from his body though...epic fail I guess then?

 

[PetFlora]

My take on mj/lighting sales people is they have very little practical experience in growing, let alone growing mj. As with all purchases, the less knowledgeable I am, the more money I waste, not just in purchases, but 3-6 months later when my grow is less than it would have been. I have blown way more $$$ on nutes than lights, though.

I have been using my redsuns for 16 weeks now and they are still going strong. Never had any problems. Btw you have to run them by themselves to see how they truly appear in color. When they sit next to a different bulb they appear a different color or shade. For example. The fiji looks very purple. When placed next to a redsun it looks more blue. The redsun is the only one I have come across with that much red at that nm and with no other wasted spectrums. I wouldn't believe anything a vendor or salesman at a store says. They usually talk out their ass and don't know the first thing of how light really works. I have had plenty experience. With dumbass salesman at aquarium shops and hydro shops that give the worst advice. I almost think that it's on purpose. So you will come back and spend more money when their advice backfired

 

[PetFlora]

My hydro plant is totally all wrinkled up now. Looks like a raisin.....DEFINATELY not healthy, but I know now that it isn't being caused from the lights. I have the plant under a CMH and it is still doing the same weird shit. It must be an over-fertilization problem. Strange as it is on a 50% nute!

A lot of nute calculators cannot be trusted, including Dutch Masters own on their site. It seems their Hanna chart is the wrong chart. Hanna is 1 EC = 500 ppm, but when I mix to their amounts, it is always ~40% higher. That alone can either cause nute lockout (if caught soon enough, salvageable) or outright death.

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

BTW guys on these new T5 grows we have totally abandoned all Nute regimens and went straight to a dry Maxibloom ONLY mix.

I will never go back to Part A, b, add this add that crap again. Straight up, 1tsp of Maxibloom per gallon throughout the plants entire life. Getting as good of grows as I have with Fox Farms, GH and Advanced. Not to mention saving a SHITLOAD of money.

2.2lb for $15!

 

[Undercover Cop]

In the future, please keep your lame ass racist remarks to your stupid self

Lol yeah thx for bumping it so we could all see that clip again, soo funny.

 

[Undercover Cop]

BTW guys on these new T5 grows we have totally abandoned all Nute regimens and went straight to a dry Maxibloom ONLY mix.

I will never go back to Part A, b, add this add that crap again. Straight up, 1tsp of Maxibloom per gallon throughout the plants entire life. Getting as good of grows as I have with Fox Farms, GH and Advanced. Not to mention saving a SHITLOAD of money.

2.2lb for $15!

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Ive been using GH flora 3 part, with ok results... I used to make my own mix from MG epsom ST etc and was considering it again... Does maxibloom have all the mirconutes also? Special instructions for diff stages? It'd be nice to have something so easy and cheap.
Reason for your switch? Do you think the nutrient requirements are that different using T5s? (I'm sure they prob transpire less due to less intense light/heat than HID)
thx


and are you referring/suggesting this for hydro or soil?