2x2x5 Grow Lab - Reserva Privada Headband ... [ 100w T5 veg / 250w HPS flower ]

[thegersman]

Nice Sr !!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you on maturing girls.

I am giving massive flowering nutes at this time, and most of the girls are wanting more more more.

Later Bro !

 

[Ge7Som3]

Definitely!

Not to mention plants flowered when mature yield better and grow better vs. those flowered immature.




Hey bro! Sorry if I've been missing questions I'm not avoiding them, I just forget to answer.


I DID have these green ties similar to those you get in the produce section at the grocery store... I picked up 200ft for like $3... Well now I realize those ties are shitty, they will cut and chafe into your plants.

NOW I'm using Zip Ties... my favorite method for plants.... Seriously there are 30 things to use zip ties on in a garden.. I use like $10-$15 worth of zip ties in a grow. I put some photos up above..




My method is this:
I will get four 11 inch long zip ties... and hook all 4 into eachother... Then I put them around my plants and connect them. So now *we* have a zip tie band, tied around the bottom of the pot.... Then I take another zip tie, and hook/connect it to that band (so a ring, connected to that band), on the side I am going to train on... THEN I use two zip ties, hook them together, wrap it around the plant, and CONNECT them to the HOOK tied to the BAND around the pots....... If that doesn't make sense I'll take some specific photos for you.

It works out really well. A zip tie will never loosen itself, and if you need a plant just a LITTLE bit more tied down then you just pull the zip ties a few extra clicks. The only problem is you can't undo clicks, so you will be straight up cutting down the zip ties you mess up... It's an art that requires you to go through a lot of zip ties before you perfect it


I recommend buying an assorted tube at home depot for like $11.. You get like 500 zip ties of different sizes which is very handy. Also I'd pick up a wire cutter if you don't have one, to cut the zip ties... They are quite thick.


I have found zip ties are not sharp enough to cut into your plants when training. They are really gentle.

Yes I am pretty familiar with zip ties, as I do many Car Audio Installs, this sounds like a great method and its so simple. I think I get what your saying but pics would be nice as I am pretty medicated and might have a completely different picture in my head.

 

[mrmaddu]

Man i feel like i am late for the movie this sucks but nice to see ya going again sr. i have a project going myself right now also and i pick up these beans with my last order as well looking forward to seeing your grow as well as mine in the coming months i plan on germing those.......right now i have barneys farm blue cheese and g13 sour kandy flowering.

keep em green

 

[tightpockt]

I think if you vegged with that 250 your plants would grow a lot faster. If you can keep your temps under control I'd chose a 250w hps 2700k over cfl's every day of the week. They don't really stretch if you keep the light close.

 

[Sr. Verde]

I think if you vegged with that 250 your plants would grow a lot faster. If you can keep your temps under control I'd chose a 250w hps 2700k over cfl's every day of the week. They don't really stretch if you keep the light close.

Thanks for the tip . I'm trying something new with the floros.... I have a 250w MH bulb, but my hood sucks - it isn't air tight. So in order to install the MH, I have to remove all the tape I put on the hood, and replace it.... then do it over again when switching to HPS...... Seems like a lot of work to me so I picked up that t5, to see how well it would do.

I'm finding the t5 is producing tighter nodes, and over all a better structure... But you are right the HID does grow them faster... But I feel like the plants aren't 100% what they could be in the end, as far as node spacing and branching...... Like for as big as these plants are, they are impressively low to the soil....

All in all, your right - this is taking longer than it could..... but at the same time it's a fun experiment ... I want to veg out some little monsters, then just throw that 250w HPS on them and let the puppies do work.

The plants wont suffer in the end, with mh vs. floro..... It will just take longer.

Next veg I do plan on figuring out how to get some more lumens in there to stimulate growth... I'm looking into some LEDs....... only for veg though, I think I love HPS too much for flower to change it.

Man i feel like i am late for the movie this sucks but nice to see ya going again sr. i have a project going myself right now also and i pick up these beans with my last order as well looking forward to seeing your grow as well as mine in the coming months i plan on germing those.......right now i have barneys farm blue cheese and g13 sour kandy flowering.

keep em green

Not too late at all! It's been far too slow up to this point. Pull up a chair, we are still vegging and training. I'm going to work these sour kush females..... Fill this screen out, and let the branching branch ...

I'm finding the Sour Kush by RP to be really vigourous in growth, very strong, THICK meristem (and branches it seems now).... the smell is very diesel.... with this slightly sweet stinky skunky overtone... It smells like jungle ganja or something. It seems like it will be some POWERFUL, full bodied medicine for SURE tough! I can't wait to smell a bag of 4 week cured RP headband! Something to be excited for.

Yes I am pretty familiar with zip ties, as I do many Car Audio Installs, this sounds like a great method and its so simple. I think I get what your saying but pics would be nice as I am pretty medicated and might have a completely different picture in my head.

There ya go You know how the zip tie thing goes... Once you make the connection between horticulture and zip ties you like, "damn why haven't I been doing this from the start??"..... I used to use string. That sucked - it stretched, came untied, or just deteriorated with all the sun and moisture.

 

[C.Indica]

Don't mess w/ith leds..

Right now your T5 system consists entirely of either 5400k or 6500k bulbs.

Lot'sof blue light, cool.

Look up UVB.
And the "LED without LEDS" thread.

~$20 abulb,but so worth it.

 

[supchaka]

I'm sure it's already been mentioned but I'd get a screen with tighter spacing. Good luck on the grow!

 

[Sr. Verde]

Don't mess w/ith leds..

Right now your T5 system consists entirely of either 5400k or 6500k bulbs.

Lot'sof blue light, cool.

Look up UVB.
And the "LED without LEDS" thread.

~$20 abulb,but so worth it.

I know a guy who is doing a start up LED company.. With some new LED tech.... I'd be getting a prototype from him, rather than going to a store... IF I did pick up an LED

These LEDs are supposed to be like 4-5w each... most on the market today are 3-4w.

If only I could stuff in more floros!

I'm sure it's already been mentioned but I'd get a screen with tighter spacing. Good luck on the grow!

Yessir it has... I picked this screen up at the hydro store.. It works better than no screen, but a home made screen with like PVC and fishing line would be best I think... My screen is decent enough I think! It will keep the tops from falling into eachother..

But yes we will upgrade that eventually.

 

[Joos Springsteen]

Lookin' nice! We've got similar dimensions and I'm rocking a 250 hps as well.

I wonder if your 250 watt HPS wouldn't do better for veg than a 100 watt T5. With my 250, I couldn't have had tighter nodes throughout the veg of my current grow. It would really surprise me to see 100 watts of fluorescent bulbs out perform a 250 watt HPS, even in veg. I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.

I dig that you're trying it out, but it seems to me that we don't need to reinvent the car every time we build one.

Check out the 250 watt club and help guide, lots of stuff going on over there!

Pics of the node spacing:

 

[Sr. Verde]

It seems in that photo the foliage is lacking.... and foliage is usually grown really well under the blue spectrum... is that why the tops have the most green of the whole plant?

 

[Joos Springsteen]

Dig my 250 grow journal when you get a chance. You'll see that the foliage is not lacking on account of my choice of light.

 

[upthearsenal]

I've gone from 250w hps for veg to t5s for many reasons. Heat, distance I can keep the lamp over the canopy, spectrum, and plus, why do I want to use my hps bulb that I'm going to flower with, I'd be using it for like four months straight, with only half that for bud production. I can get t5 bulbs for $11 each, and the hps bulb, well that about $100 and replaced every six months...

 

[supchaka]

Lookin' nice! We've got similar dimensions and I'm rocking a 250 hps as well.

I wonder if your 250 watt HPS wouldn't do better for veg than a 100 watt T5. With my 250, I couldn't have had tighter nodes throughout the veg of my current grow. It would really surprise me to see 100 watts of fluorescent bulbs out perform a 250 watt HPS, even in veg. I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.

I dig that you're trying it out, but it seems to me that we don't need to reinvent the car every time we build one.

Check out the 250 watt club and help guide, lots of stuff going on over there!

Pics of the node spacing:

Those are some mutant plants lol

 

[Sr. Verde]

Today is the first day of 18/6..lights shut off early tonight to start 18/6. coming from 20/4.... They are at about 5 inches (after training) now... once they reach like 6.5inches trained. I will drop the daylight hours to 15/9 for a day then start 12/12..... I will probably do 3-4 days with the floros and drop the HPS in for the rest of the grow


Hopefully I can fit that 100W t5 on the side, and give some side lighting - but we will see.




grow note: tops are doing great, have multiple nodes - very healthy branching.. Were going to have quite a few colas.

 

[kmksrh21]

Sweet! Sounds like it's comin' along beautifully!

 

[Sr. Verde]

They are... These plants are sending me for a loop though... I fed with fox farms grow big.. the full strength 20mL/gal mixture... twice in a row (no plain water between) and the new tops are still lime green... no burn or anything...

Guess I will start pumping the nutes up a bit, these plants seem to handle it.

Thanks

 

[kmksrh21]

They are... These plants are sending me for a loop though... I fed with fox farms grow big.. the full strength 20mL/gal mixture... twice in a row (no plain water between) and the new tops are still lime green... no burn or anything...

Guess I will start pumping the nutes up a bit, these plants seem to handle it.

Thanks

Nice dude! That's exactly how my bubba kush is.

I feed it full strength through out it's whole life (grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom) and it stays green til harvest.

It's a super hardy strain (at least the pheno I have is...)

That's awesome thought definately a good sign you got something worth while...

 

[Sr. Verde]

Finishing up Day 47 veg.. It's been a long veg, more lumens next time for sure.


Anyway.... doing one more day of 18/6 later on today (monday).... then 15/9 on Tuesday, 12/12 on Wednesday.... HPS dropping in Friday/saturday.. I've been running 18/6 for 2-3 days. Plants haven't stretched much, tops still around 6 inches, which is nice I guess.

Just want these girls a litttttle bigger. I think they can do it.

This is the longest by far I've vegged.. But it's been fun... I can't complain - the plants are really healthy and have a nice structure.. The soil is still healthy, and they have a great root system.

 

[Sr. Verde]

More from day 47 after some training...

Notice the label to the right indicating the 7inch mark

Screen view

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Put in 2 42w 2700k CFLs in there... Now that's 84w 2700k + 100w 6500k... bringing the total to 184w for the last 3 days of veg.. decent..

 

[Gastanker]

Damn, a bit late jumping into this journal. Great looking plants! Love headband and love DNA/RP so this has got to be great. Subbed for sure.