Ron Paul Has A Legit Shot.

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Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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NoDrama said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/26/world/main6991862.shtml

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20090515_torture_under_obamas_watch/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-books-arent-closed-on-bushs-torture-policy/2011/07/11/gIQA3v0e9H_story.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/01/13/obama-s-torture-dilemma.html

But you are right, Torture is no longer "officially" condoned.
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lol. You just googled "torture + Obama" without even reading the articles. There is nothing in those articles that links Obama to torture. It's for the most part just complaining about Obama not prosecuting the Bush administration for torturing. While I agree with that, it's certainly not evidence Obama is torturing people.
 
Dan Kone

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NoDrama said:
Yep, obama promised he wouldn't do the very same thing you just said he did do.

he can just make laws as he goes, just like Bushy did by using signing statements.
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So basically you're unhappy about torturing, but Obama couldn't pass legislation through congress to stop it, so he had to give an executive order, so now you're unhappy with him for giving an executive order. lol. Geeez. Talk about a lose-lose. No matter what he does you'll find a reason to hate him for it.
 
sync0s

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tryingtogrow89 said:
There is no reason to not side with ron paul, and if you beg to differ you are not paying attention.
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That isn't true. In reality, there is no one size fits all solution. No one sided argument results in open mindedness or intelligence. The only thing that you, or Ron Paul, can do is to make the case for your stance as best you can and hope that others will take your side on the matter.
 
tryingtogrow89

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sync0s said:
That isn't true. In reality, there is no one size fits all solution. No one sided argument results in open mindedness or intelligence. The only thing that you, or Ron Paul, can do is to make the case for your stance as best you can and hope that others will take your side on the matter.
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I didnt know god given rights and human sovereignty was a sided view...
 
UncleBuck

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jpill said:
Don't worry about him, He's just the local RP troll. You'll see him on pretty much every RP thread.

He's Sort of like this kid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y
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you will see me on every RP thread to remind you guys of the reality of your fight.

ron paul can do just fine, even win states and shit....as long as there are many candidates in the field.

once it becomes a one on one race, ron paul loses hardcore. an overwhelming majority do not like him or even consider him an acceptable candidate.

ron paul is the troll.
 
Dan Kone

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tryingtogrow89 said:
Why? ..........
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Because free trade is responsible for much of our job loss/outsourcing problems, it lowers US worker wages, and increased economic inequality globally. The people who really benefit from free trade are the top 0.05%. The wealthy elites.

Economic regulations on the financial services industry are necessary to prevent Wall St from ass raping us.

So I like to keep my money and I don't want to get ass raped. Good reason right?
 
Dan Kone

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UncleBuck said:
you will see me on every RP thread to remind you guys of the reality of your fight.

ron paul can do just fine, even win states and shit....as long as there are many candidates in the field.

once it becomes a one on one race, ron paul loses hardcore. an overwhelming majority do not like him or even consider him an acceptable candidate.

ron paul is the troll.
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I can't wait until he loses. I will be here laughing when that happens.
 
Sure Shot

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The Federal Reserve is a private cartel of foreign bankers.
They do with Federal Reserve notes whatever they please.
Bring back the American Dollar, end the Federal Reserve note.
Ron Paul 2012!
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sync0s

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tryingtogrow89 said:
I didnt know god given rights and human sovereignty was a sided view...
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First off, do all of Ron Pauls views have to do with "God given rights" and "human sovereignty?" The answer: NO

Secondly, not everyone has to view the natural civil human rights as "God given" in order to respect them. God didn't give me shit. Our society that was created by the great minds of James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and many more of the nations founding fathers. THEY were the ones who respected what it meant to be a human in a civilized and equal society. I credit THEM. Not "God."

I absolutely despise when people try to use religious bullshit in an intellectual argument. Fucking irks me.
 
Dan Kone

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Sure Shot said:
The Federal Reserve is a private cartel of foreign bankers.
They do with Federal Reserve notes whatever they please.
Bring back the American Dollar, end the Federal Reserve note.
Ron Paul 2012!
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What's wrong with having a publicly controlled paper based currency?

Say we switch to gold. In theory if a big enough gold find was discovered, that could cause financial collapse due to sudden devaluation of our currency. Is it really necessary to tie our financial future that because more or less valuable due to circumstances outside our control? I agree that an organization accountable to no one shouldn't be in charge of our money, but why not just replace the fed with a currency the public controls.

Do you think the ability to control our currency that comes with paper money is useless? It can be used to our advantage. Having gold money can be a huge disadvantage.
 
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