Root gel and some experiments

[thegigglepimp]

this is the one i used :

Organic, so i assume no pesticides?

"Does not contain synthetic growth hormones and fungicides found in hormone
rooting powder.

Children and pets need not be excluded from the treated area."

The stuff stinks though so definitely will do an extensive flush if i continue to use it incase it affects taste..

 

[panhead]

maccabee you certainly freaked me the fuck out!!!!!!!

Same here,ive got the plant in the pic,another plant that was ready to harvest,4 seedlings & 4 clones,all treated.

I sent the Schultz Co an email asking them if the contents are safe for food or safe for root feeding tobacco plants that are to be smoked.

 

[pinksensa]

Same here,ive got the plant in the pic,another plant that was ready to harvest,4 seedlings & 4 clones,all treated.

I sent the Schultz Co an email asking them if the contents are safe for food or safe for root feeding tobacco plants that are to be smoked.

I would have to.....and the thing is there are too many unaswered questions....like will flushing the hell out of them really back track something that is an inherent part of the plant now????

 

[Maccabee]

Well, I didn't find any pesticides in the info on TakeRoot, but I couldn't find a material safety data sheet for it, so it's hard to say for sure. the 99.9% "other ingredients" makes me nervous, but on the other hand I think pesticides have to be labeled on the bottle.

Pink, if you've been foliar feeding with it I'd mist lightly with water for a few days and don't harvest immediately if you're getting close. You can wipe down the stalk where you've applied it with a little distilled water before harvest gets too close.

I would flush well, maybe a little bit more than usual. Excess hormone in the plant tissue isn't really a problem, but pesticide deposits are. I would think that flushing and misting would help with that just as it does with fertilizer buildup in/on the plant. I wish I could say more authoritatively, but I'm not a trained botanist or chemist.

But as it stands, I'm the only one who seems to have a rooting/hormone compound that we know for sure has a dangerous pesticide in it. (I haven't fed it to my plants yet luckily enough.) So, people, don't buy GardenTech Rootone. The Rootech that FDD is using seems fine, once the gel dries up. The gel might be a mild irritant to the plant tissue, and you don't want to breathe/smoke the residue, or get it all over your hands, but that's about it. It's certainly not carcinogenic or wildly pathogenic like the Thiram in the Rootone is.

Panhead, I'm curious to find out what Schultz tells you.

Gigglepimp, that stuff looks fine but I'm not sure it will actually do anything for you. What's in it?


Anyone using other brands?

 

[thegigglepimp]

Maccabee: Well unless its coincidence it seems to have promoted growth in a seedling of mine which i thought was worthless. I'll try look into the ingredients.

 

[Maccabee]

Maccabee: Well unless its coincidence it seems to have promoted growth in a seedling of mine which i thought was worthless. I'll try look into the ingredients.

It might be great stuff, I'm just wondering what's in it if not hormones....

 

[thegigglepimp]

i didnt mean that in an argumentative way just to point out lol just realized it could have sounded a bit harsh. I cant find anything on the net. I'll post in about ten when i check the container.

 

[pinksensa]

I have only used the rootech gel and only the one application....the day after it had dried there was some white residue that was left that i wiped away that day....I dont foliar feed or anything else I just applied to the points noted in my pics the one time.

 

[thegigglepimp]

Maccabee: Surprisingly there is no ingredients at all on the tub. I wasnt aware that it was legal to do this? All it says is "Natural Oils allow you to simply dip and plant. contains no synthetic growth hormones or fungicides as found in other manufactured hormone rooting liquids" I found their website and theres nothing on there either :S

 

[Maccabee]

Maccabee: Surprisingly there is no ingredients at all on the tub. I wasnt aware that it was legal to do this? All it says is "Natural Oils allow you to simply dip and plant. contains no synthetic growth hormones or fungicides as found in other manufactured hormone rooting liquids" I found their website and theres nothing on there either :S

Well, then it's probably not dangerous but it's hard to know if it's doing anything. As with most things, probably best to keep it off the buds and leaves and out of the water as you near harvest.

 

[panhead]

Well, I didn't find any pesticides in the info on TakeRoot, but I couldn't find a material safety data sheet for it, so it's hard to say for sure. the 99.9% "other ingredients" makes me nervous, but on the other hand I think pesticides have to be labeled on the bottle.


But as it stands, I'm the only one who seems to have a rooting/hormone compound that we know for sure has a dangerous pesticide in it. (I haven't fed it to my plants yet luckily enough.) So, people, don't buy GardenTech Rootone. The Rootech that FDD is using seems fine, once the gel dries up. The gel might be a mild irritant to the plant tissue, and you don't want to breathe/smoke the residue, or get it all over your hands, but that's about it. It's certainly not carcinogenic or wildly pathogenic like the Thiram in the Rootone is.

Panhead, I'm curious to find out what Schultz tells you.

Anyone using other brands?

See now thats where im at right now,i never thought about pesticides until you mentioned it,i searched everywhere for the MSDS sheet on the stuff & i couldnt find it,hopefully they come through with the sheet soon.

My harvest is going to be large enough where i can afford to loose a few plants so im not taking any chances,if the stuff aint safe i aint smokin it until im sure.

 

[MrsMcGreggor]

PAN Product Info for Schultz - rootone - rooting hormone

msds sheets may be found here.

 

[panhead]

Thanks for the links guys,the stuff i used is called Schultz Take Root & i cant find much info on it at all,i looked under all the registered names of Root Tone in MS Mcgregors link & its not there either.

This is the stuff.

Schultz Take Root Rooting Hormone Powder 2 oz: HY from Kalyx.com - Hydroponics & Gardening - Nutrients, Rooting & Propagation

 

[FrostickZero]

Thanks for the links guys,the stuff i used is called Schultz Take Root & i cant find much info on it at all,i looked under all the registered names of Root Tone in MS Mcgregors link & its not there either.

hey panhead I just got some pics of the new suplies that I bought take a look in about 5

 

[panhead]

I got the emailed version of the msds from Schultz a little while ago,the product Take Root (what i used) lists the ingredients as Indole-3-Butaric acid & the inert ingredients as (Talc) non asbestos talc's of less than 1% free silicon,no pesticides or other ingredients are listed.

Hmmmm.............im still worried,its a fat ass bud but i dont want to grow a 3rd eyeball or have my head swell up like a pumpkin from smokin it either.

Does anybody see any problems associated with the talc they listed as the ingredient ?

 

[fdd2blk]

both the plants that i put gel on the stalk are stunted. they have fat stalks where i applied it but the height is half of the others.

 

[Maccabee]

Nah. As long as it's non-asbestos you'd have to be exposed to kinds of concentration a miner or factory worker processing the stuff would see and even then it's just an inert dust hazard. And I doubt any talc was taken up by the plant anyway, I would think it would be suspended in the nute solution.


I think you're good to go.

 

[panhead]

Nah. As long as it's non-asbestos you'd have to be exposed to kinds of concentration a miner or factory worker processing the stuff would see and even then it's just an inert dust hazard. And I doubt any talc was taken up by the plant anyway, I would think it would be suspended in the nute solution.


I think you're good to go.

Ha,thanks,that makes me feel better,hopefully that bud will just keep swelling up till it bursts

Edit .NIOSH Document: Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards: Talc (containing no asbestos and less than 1% quartz) | CDC/NIOSH

 

[onehitwonder]

? did you rubb rooting gel on a seed then germinate just wondedring!?

 

[panhead]

? did you rubb rooting gel on a seed then germinate just wondedring!?

Everybody in this experiement did different things,all the information is in the thread starting at the 1st post,in order to know what we all did you need to read the whole thread.